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getting out lbw
« on: April 13, 2010, 01:37:21 PM »

probably my major malfunction! looking at a ball thinking its a leg stump dobber, missing it and looking down to see my pad right infront of middle peg and OUT!

what are your tips for better judging of line and lengh?
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2010, 01:39:38 PM »

Close your eyes and swing from the hips bud, or perhaps batting on leg stump would help you out pretty quickly.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 01:49:45 PM »

do you "plant" your front leg a little? Ie where ever the ball is bowled does your front foot end up in the same place?
In terms of judging line, it helps if you know where your offstump is. if you see here... http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=5322.msg76526#new I have gone into a bit of overkill about taking guard and where you stand!

Without seeing you bat, it is difficult to help more other than to suggest that your head/eyes lead where your foot should go, rather than the old "get your foot to the pitch of the ball" which describes what the shot looks like, rather than how you get into position.
To explain what I mean about getting your eyes over the ball and you feet will follow, see if you can find on youtube a clip of Ian Bell batting well - when he is in, his technique, especially through mid on is fantastic, which seems to be your issue.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 01:56:17 PM »

I bat with the tips of my boot on leg stump and I get out lbw quote a lot. It's funny cos in nets it rarely hits my pads. I think I'm so determined to to play defensive at the start which is invariably when I get out Lbw, if I get past the first few overs I rarely get out lbw. So I'm gonna try playing a bit more aggressive from the start. Maybe something for you to bare in mind
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 01:58:06 PM »

yeah, planting the foot is something ive tried to work on in the past, its such a difficult habit to shake!
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 02:01:40 PM »

first of all, thanks buzz and kenbriooo (and watson :)) for your responses, all very helpfull, i should probably add that its early in my innings when im feeling cagey that im more of an lbw candidate and im looking for tips on how to judge the line of a delivery
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 02:05:20 PM »

Start with the basics bud change your guard,
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 02:06:02 PM »

put a small mark down the line of off stump about a yard in front of the crease and line yourself up with that at the start of your innings, which can help get your guard right.

To stop planting your front foot so much, try opening your front foot a little so it points slightly to the bowler (try in the nets first!!) this may alter you balance slightly and help stop the dreaded plant.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 02:09:14 PM »

i bat on 1 as it is, maybe move across to 2 or middle to increase the chance of getting outside the line? although that doesnt make any difference with some umpires i get. my issue is more with a ball that pitches middle and hits middle/leg
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 02:09:45 PM »

interesting point buzz, i will try this in nets, thanks!
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 02:14:47 PM »

i bat on 1 as it is, maybe move across to 2 or middle to increase the chance of getting outside the line? although that doesnt make any difference with some umpires i get. my issue is more with a ball that pitches middle and hits middle/leg

I have had this problem in the past - mainly because I had a trigger movement which took me too far across the stumps. In the end I found standing still was (for me) a much better option.
You could also try having about 60% of your weight on your front foot in early season to help you get used to getting forward on slow tracks as you get used to the difference from the fast indoor nets to the super slow April wickets.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 02:17:42 PM »

i stand very still waiting for the ball, havent thought much about weight distribution but its yet another very interesting point
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »

If your taking leg stump as your guard and your missing balls pitched on middle then perhaps my first part of my original post would work for you. On a serious note try batting on middle and make sure you keep both eyes parallel this could be your problem, watch Shah bat and look at the way he ensures his eyes are parallel.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 04:21:59 PM »

bit left field this but I've opened by stance a little. I take my guard on middle but slightly open my stance with my front leg pointing towards mid on. Don't get LBW very often, even with a front trigger movement as my foots barely leg stump.
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Re: getting out lbw
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 04:27:51 PM »

bit left field this but I've opened by stance a little. I take my guard on middle but slightly open my stance with my front leg pointing towards mid on. Don't get LBW very often, even with a front trigger movement as my foots barely leg stump.
Not left field at all - sensible as it allows you to retain your balance and be comfortable at the crease - the downside of this is you can edge the ball a little more as it could be slightly harder to move across to hit the ball on the front foot through the offside. Not always though... it may make no difference to you at all!!
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