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[alexrickyponting]

thanks alvaro, i have to agree about hamilton captaincy wise,
choppy, i think surreys good players are:
ramps- no need to justify! average - 90.00,
davies- seems very good behind the stumps, an effective bat - average not on surrey website
michael brown- solid opener with capability to go for it when needed.average - 36.74,
usman afzaal - inconsistent but talented bat, decent occasional bowler. average - 57.68
chris jordan - when not injured
andre nel - not been that successful but undoubtably a good bowler

then there are a few mediocre players etc hamilton-brown, meaker, dernbach(better than some), walters

then there are spriegel, harinath who are both awful, tremlett and rao havent played yet so cant comment.

unfortunately our main weakness is our dependency on the openers and when they fail, ramprakash so we do need to find a partner for brown but it seems spriegel is a favorite of adams just my 2 cents worth

and on the actual topic i reckon anderson/broad could do the siddle/hilfenhaus thing but there are no real brett lee style quicks yet but finn could be promising

[PunterPonting]

Bowlers graveyard? Was good enough for Derbyshire to skittle them twice! Rogers is on a different level, should be opening for Australia or at least have been given a better crack at it better than Jacques, Hughes and Katich.

It's well known that he is a bit of a loser - that's why he left WA, he isn't a good team man.

Jack Brookes of Northants. Watch him.

[niceonechoppy]

Hamilton Browns a far better bat than Brown, hes a real talent. Afzaal is far to incosistent, think he got a 90 odd in T20 and bugger all after that. Jordan cant be promising if hes always injured! Andre Nel isn't worth it, better off having a young English lad playing. You have no opening partnership and rely to heavily on Ramps, no quality seamer either which makes life tough for Batty.

The one day stuff might be different now though....

[Outlaw]

Wasnt aware of this Punter, always seems a decent bloke when I've spoken to him and not heard any problems from friends who train with him daily.

[Buzz]

Wasnt aware of this Punter, always seems a decent bloke when I've spoken to him and not heard any problems from friends who train with him daily.

cracking name drop!!

Supporting Surrey is a sorry state of affairs at the moment. It will take a while for the team to rebuild. I can't believe they didn't start the rebuilding process a few years ago - it all went wrong when Martin Bicknell retired. Jordon is a talented player - just always injured. He is the most talented youngster on the squad at the moment. Why we signed Afzaal and Nel I will never know.

[alexrickyponting]

we are just going have to agree to disagree over brown and hamilton-brown, i have nothing aginst hamilton-brown but he has too much responsibility i think, he should be left to bat rather than be puppeted as alvaro said by adams. Jordan isnt always injured, he had a stress fracture in his back three years ago, recovered but now its got worse and hes back to square one, when hes fit hell be promising again then o.k?
why is nel not worth it, we have no half decent young english lads! we have meaker, linley spriegel harinath etc they are all (No Swearing Please)!
"You have no opening partnership and rely to heavily on Ramps" pretty much what i said, we need a partner for brown then we will be a bit better off. if jordan was fit batty wouldnt have it so tough but he knew what he was getting himself in for when he came to surrey.

i wouldnt get my hopes up for OD stuff, there will be loads of hype then well be knocked out of all the tournaments straight away and come bottomish in the leagues. like normal

on another note, spriegel has done amazingly again and harinath is really going quick [facepalm]

unlucky chopster hamilton-brown is out for 36, we are screwed.

[Outlaw]

Is Meaker the lad who bowls gas? Think I saw him at some point last season looked alright has he not been bowling well?

[alexrickyponting]

gas? sorry what do you mean lol
hes seems fairly quick but just not that effective really
now davies is gone

[Outlaw]

I mean bowls good pace, heard about someone at surrey who bowls consistently around 90 clicks and above, thought it was Meaker may be wrong?

[Buzz]

Jade Durnbatch (sp?) is the supposed quickie - not sure about his radar, but he spent the winter with the MRF Blimb (bowling academy) so hopefully he will have improved

[niceonechoppy]

What is it with that lad and the thirties? His average is 36 as well! Oh well, Nel isn't worth it, hes lost it completely IMO, if you are scared to play English lads then why sign them? They aren't going to get better watching are they? Play them for a season, who knows they might grow with confidence and take 40 wickets?! Spriegel wouldnt make most county sides and I have no view on Harinath, I havent seen him play so therefore cannot comment on him....

[niceonechoppy]

Davies has gone to Monty, 150 all out I reckon....

[alexrickyponting]

Dernbach is medium-fast according to surrey so i doubt hes 90mph, doesnt look it anyway,
Meaker does seem to be quick yes but when ive seen him he hasnt troubled batsmen at all really, on the other hand Nel the other day set a couple of derbyshire players up, bouncer or two then the yorker, was bowling nicely

"Spriegel wouldnt make most county sides" - too true but tell it to chris adams,
" have no view on Harinath" - seen him twice, looks very nervous at the crease, has no intention of scoring most of the time, i mean against derbyshire he was watching lobg-hops go past! so frustrating, he just a more boring slower spriegel tbh.
Also if we only play these crap young english lads then they wont have any experienced bowlers to learn tactics etc from will they, they cant be coached everything they have to watch experienced players in action too

[c1arkie]

Green shoots of recovery at OT, but if you will be condemned to another year of a medium-pace bowler having to open your first-class innings then it will be a bloody struggle! Its little short of embarrassing that we scratch around with Tom Smith and sometimes Kyle Hogg opening the batting whilst Derby have just the kind or pro we should be picking up instead of the overpaid big names with nothing to prove. Shame for all concerned Rogers cant play over here next summer.

As for Surrey, surely every non-Surrey fan wants to see RHB fall flat on his face?

[Mr Cricket]

harinath has 20 off 130 balls at the mo lol