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[roco]

Was pondering this what makes a bat a pinger as some say the more grains the better it flys but then people like jullian millichamp apparently gives bats with 7-9 grains to the pros is the only true way to test every individual cleft for rebound or are there things to look for as what makes two identical looking bats rebound differently maybe where grown or for how long anyone with some thoughts

[Singo]

Most pros ive seen have perfectly straight grains with about 11-ish grains normally?

[Watsontotty]

Unless you actually test a bunch of bats then its impossible to visually say which bats will ping well and perform the best. Ive had bats with 7 grains and bats with 20 grains and I've not actually found the more grains the better the performance. For me its more about how the bats are made and pressed. Its worth going down to a store that holds plenty of bats in stock and just test them out and for companies which grade on looks then you could pick up an absolute beauty in g2 cheap as chips.

[Talisman]

PING!!!

1, Density, the lower the better for ping, this seems to be a natural variation but the middle of 5 rounds will produce the best clefts.
2, Pressing, there is an optimal pressure for each bat, the key is to hit it, also the method employed to press can have massive difference to the bat, you want a thin hard layer, multiple passes produces a thicker layer with less PING.
3, Grains, the more the stiffer the blade and the greater the energy return.
4, Weight, the greater the dead weight the more willow in the bat and the better the energy return, an easier tactic to employ than Density.

[niceonechoppy]

Which one of those factors enhances ping the most Mike?

[Talisman]

1, followed by 2, etc....

[n80krr]

so when pressing you really want to get it right first time?

[seedy]

The more grains the better the ping is absoloute rubbish, i simply do not believe that!

It's all about the individual blade.

[Howzat]

Well a bat with more grains should ping more as the grains make it stiffer or something i think

[peplow]

I think it plays some part (as mike has put it 3rd) as you dont see many if any pro's with 4 grain bats!!!

[n80krr]

I've got a woodworm flame and it's got 6-7 grains, it pings pretty good although it is on the way out now (2 seasons), now I'm looking to get a new bat but just can't make up my mind as to what I want. Thinking about getting a part made then choosing what I want but don't want to mess it up in the process of trying to make it. Then there's off the shelf which seems the easiest but definitely the most expensive way. Or getting one from any of the advertisers on this site as they all seem to have a massive knowledge of bats and how to make them.

[Full_Blade]

PING!!!

1, Density, the lower the better for ping, this seems to be a natural variation but the middle of 5 rounds will produce the best clefts.
2, Pressing, there is an optimal pressure for each bat, the key is to hit it, also the method employed to press can have massive difference to the bat, you want a thin hard layer, multiple passes produces a thicker layer with less PING.
3, Grains, the more the stiffer the blade and the greater the energy return.
4, Weight, the greater the dead weight the more willow in the bat and the better the energy return, an easier tactic to employ than Density.

When pressing do manufacteurers take in the density, grains of the wood etc or do they just set it to one generic pressure?

[Huckster]

What has happened to the SAF man?

[Buzz]

What has happened to the SAF man?

pretty sure Andy is still around (maybe masquerading as Norbs), although the San Andreas Fault section is now in the archive...