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[norbs]

think about it a soft bat needs more hours then hard bat, a overly hard bat is not going to work.  A laminate as it stands from all makers needs knocking in as well

[tim2000s]

How does that relate to a baseball bat and what is the major difference?

[100 not out]

but why is the energy return from two pieces joined together supposed to be better..

[tim2000s]

Most of Norbs and Talisman comments suggest it generally isn't. I suppose glue could make it "harder" if done right?

[100 not out]

only when it isnt done properly. . . . .SS Turbo's back in the 90's were laminates and supposed to be very good.

Gooch's 333 was with a laminate apparently. . .

i have been told that alot of pro's use them . . . .they must do for a reason

[tim2000s]

If pros are using them, they'd better be doing it secretly... They are illegal....

One of my mattes had a 333 Turbo. Was definitely not a laminate that he had!

[100 not out]

i know they are illegal to use. . . . . .but they are used. i have read somewhere that the icc was clamping down on thir use. . . its on this forum somewhere

there are crudes ones easy to pick, and others arent.

gooch's turbo was a laminate . . .

[peplow]

some laminations are unbelievably crude! I looked at a bat that was showed to me that was laminated and if i wasnt told i owuldnt have noticed, and when i was told it took me a more than a minute to find any signs under close scrutiny!

[100 not out]

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=2157.0

[norbs]

carry on gents, all good stuff, you'll come to a conclusion eventually

[100 not out]

I'm waiting for you to give us the answer.

Put us out of our misery Andy. .

[tim2000s]

I'd have thought that change in velocity of a ball was directly related to the rate of change of momentum, and that mass at impact point was the key to effecting this most efficiently, therefore a larger mass of bat, effected by whatever means you have, over the impat area with the ball would give you a greater rebound velocity. The laminate bat gives you the ability to increase the "contact mass" or effectively increase the sweet spot area by allowing more mass per area, or maybe I'm just starting to go mad!?!? 

[100 not out]

i think its the latter. . . . .

reminds me of one of those open university programmes that came on at 4 in the morning. . .after a night out.

[tim2000s]

Lesson 1. Keep away from discussions about bat performance after a sherbert or two.

[100 not out]

back on topic. . . . .which is the better mallet to use. . the one with a ball on the end or a wooden mallet.