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[Talisman]

Stickers are just 2 T's from a GT set, stickers are this seasons.

Bat shape is not radical, unless you are so young as not to know about the Excalibur, or Multi Balance or Hi Tech or Uzi, shall I go on? Yes I shall, Newbery have been behind nearly every change to a cricket bat for the last 30 years, excluding Graphite backing. The spiceless bat, the first non cane handle, the first shortened blade/elongated handle and when you know their history you wouldn't bet against them having something else radical that they won't be sharing with any old brand.

[roco]

When will we be seeing these then

[Bulldog Cricket]

Sounds good. James Hayman had a go with Zanders and said it was brilliant as you would expect.

[Tom]

I have a pic here of a 80yr old GM with elongated handle and shorter blade, exactly same dimensions of the Uzi....

And do you think the Mongoose and Aero have (or will) sparked a change in design? Every cricket bat which comes out over the next 5yrs will be compared to the Mongoose, that's because it's radical.

[Talisman]

So was the Cross Bat, but Aero have done nothing, no one has copied their designs apart from GN with the strippers, I like their brand, they have actually tried to push things forwards but the gloves have been compared to ST Peter's mitts and that's about it. I agree that the MMI was a radical design, but it doesn't work and had a really good chat with Tony about it a couple of weeks ago, he told me about designing it for Marcus and came across as a really good chap. But what bats have you inspired Tom, as the editor of Cricinfo seems to think that the only similar bat is a lot better.

[Tom]

I haven't designed any radical bats, I've only made improvements, fiddle with profiles and helped in the marketing with them. With Aero, GM did a stripper copy too, Lekka did a similar grip, GN did the face guard, who knows what else will be taken on board?

Perhaps the Joker is the better bat for the editor of cricinfo, I'm not bold enough to claim the MMi works for every player but it has received good (and some damning) reviews from top players around the world.

[Tom]

Ahh yes St Peters mitts being similar to Aero...

The thing I've learned in the cricket industry is with anything new its either crap or 'i did it Xyrs ago but decided against it/didnt sell any'. It's very rare for anyone to applaud another company for their design or innovation.

[procricket]

i supose this has nothing to do with me but all in all surely it purely about sales and to be honest this forum is a tiny propotion infact very small scale of cricket equipment.


all i can say is a bat is a bat to me and wonder who is selling more???

[Howzat]

I saw a Newbery Uzi the other day in Romida, absolutly massive. Had a 500mm sticker on the edge was this just someone having a laugh or does it mean something?

[Talisman]

Maybe sometimes it is just crap? just a thought, being radical in thought.

How have the Aero gloves caught on?

Lekka grips were not a copy but an existing grip, they aren't long enough in my opinion.

The GN face guard pre dates the Aero one, think it was a Hockey one, Bulldog gave me one years ago.

Never seen the GM Stripper copy, please send me a link.

Leo, the 500mm edge sticker was put on as the bats came out very big for the weight, means nothing else.

[roco]

I can vouch for the fact the gn face guard is a hockey mask with a cricket label as I have worn them in hockey mostly indoor but the aero one is far better for cricket IMO

[Tom]

Lekka was introduced in cricket as a result of the success/interest in the Aero grip. Same can be said for the GN faceguard, although it was already designed it hadn't been used in cricket until Peter McGlashan pioneered the Aero faceguard in 2005. Aero designed these products specifically for cricket and other companies followed with their designs hoping to piggyback on sales.

GM stripper was launched in 06/07 but was quickly removed from sale along with GNs first foray into the all in one thigh pads.

[Talisman]

I thought that the Yorkshire keeper, Broody? used a hockey one first?

I think that wrap around grips have been used well before Aero, I had a load of Stac bats back in the mid nineties with them fitted as standard.

Also GN are still using their version of the stripper as bought one a few weeks ago, I think they settled out of court.

[procricket]

brophy used a aero hockey one

gray nicholls brought one out before there current model and it did just go off the radar

[Bulldog Cricket]

Met Pete McGlashan Tom and had a long chat with him when i played against Bath a couple of years ago and the game was rained off, so had plenty of time to pick his brains. Very nice and clever bloke.