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Illegal Bats
« on: September 30, 2008, 02:57:29 PM »

From tomorrow the new law on bats comes in, does anyone know when illegal bats such as the Newbery C6's, CJI Fatso LE and GN Fusion cannot be sold?

If you're unsure yourself on what can/cannot be used http://www.lords.org/data/files/changes-to-the-law-concerning-cricket-bats-players-10190.pdf
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 03:04:54 PM »

What is up with the CJI Fatso LE?
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 03:06:21 PM »

The ones I have seen are willow laminated with some other wood (it looks like Kashmir or EWNI) on the back. I was under the impression that this new law meant laminated bats were illegal.

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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 03:07:21 PM »

Does that also apply to GN Nitro Xtremes then like my old one?
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »

I would believe so yes. Although I'm struggling to find the law which it contravenes, there's loads of new regulations!

Ignore my initial question it's April 2009 they can be sold up to, so be expecting some bargains on GN Fusions etc come that time.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 05:04:34 PM »

Tom

Does this answer it the question about sales...

How do these changes affect me as a player?
The onus has been placed on manufacturers to ensure that their bats conform to the new Law and are correctly graded. From 1st
October 2008, bats in shops should be graded either A, B, or C although there may be a brief window when some bats are not so
marked. Manufacturers and retailers have been asked to address this urgently.

What about bats already in shops?
There will obviously be a lot of legal but ungraded bats in the shops. There is no need to get these graded – provided the bats are
legal, retailers can sell current stock even though bats do not display gradings. However, retailers may be keen for the bats to carry a
grade, so they appear more up to date. M.C.C. suggests that retailers could, if they so wished, consult manufacturers about grading
particular bats and, if the manufacturers give approval and consent, apply stickers or brands themselves. Theses should be supplied
by the manufacturers, who are advised to keep a record of what advice on grading has been given to retailers. It is important that all
bats are correctly graded and manufacturers and retailers should work together on this.

Also on the laminated bats front ----

4. The blade
(a) The blade comprises the whole of the bat apart from the handle as defined above. The
blade has a face, a back, a toe, sides and shoulders. See Appendix E.
(b) The blade shall consist solely of wood.
(c) No material may be placed on or inserted into either the blade or the lower portion of
the handle other than as permitted in 3(d) above and 5 and 6 below, together with the
minimal adhesives or adhesive tape used solely for fixing these items, or for fixing
the handle to the blade.

Toe insert – Grade A bats may not have a toe insert placed in them. Grade B and C bats may have a toe insert fitted inside the blade,
using minimal adhesive. This insert must not extend from the toe more than 2.5 in/6.35 cm up the blade at any point.

Side insert – Grade A bats may not have side inserts placed in them. Grade B and C bats may have side inserts fitted. Neither side
insert may extend from the edge more than 1 in/2.54 cm across the blade at any point.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 05:09:20 PM »

What does the A, B and C grades mean? The quality of the willow? Or just what inserts they have?
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 05:10:57 PM »

Thanks Andy.

I understood from that that Laminated bats are banned, although it's not 100% clear. I take it the 'no material' bit refers to the lamination?

As for the sales I checked the retailers guide to the bats and it's up to April 2009.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 05:12:03 PM »

The A, B and C grades are the levels of cricket it can be used in. Something along the lines of A is Test and 1st class, B is top Premier league cricket and C is just regular village cricket.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 05:15:27 PM »

So to me that looks like A grade players cant use bats with lamitoe in them?
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 05:16:24 PM »

Is this going by manufacturer grading? i.e. Original LE = A, 909 = B etc.?

And any ideas if manufacturer grading is going to change because of this? Or will most still grade on aesthetics?
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 05:20:28 PM »

No a bats grade will be nothing to do with performance or willow level, it will be to do with if it's got lamitoe, a part carbon handle and covered blade etc.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 05:27:10 PM »

Ohh I get it now, think I just got the wrong end of the stick, that's all lol.
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2008, 06:34:42 PM »

Few people are missing the correct facts on this i will put some info on here but i will forward tom the complete rules etc as my computer wont let me attach the 3 page document.


Bat Characteristic Grade A
10% or less materials other than cane, wood and twine in the handle
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Re: Illegal Bats
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 06:51:04 PM »

i am totally and utterly confused and i have a gn fusion ctx to sell aswell god dammit
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