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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #330 on: August 28, 2010, 04:05:54 PM »

They just seem really unstable!
Shame cos I still think they need 3 things to make them a classy side.....

1. Younis Khan is to strengthen the batting with experience! One classy veteran is not enough. This seems to give confidence to the rest of the younger batsmen!

2. Catch practice!! And lots of it!

3. Fielding practice!!

On the plus side, their bowling is looking excellent! In particular Asif looks great considering he only bowls at 80mph (80 being pretty slow at this level - but just shows how effectively he bowls!) and what an awesome prospect Amir is at only 18!!! He looks the real deal for sure!  8)
The other bowlers are decent enough too, although not in the same class as Amir and Asif.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #331 on: August 28, 2010, 04:13:19 PM »

I agree their bowlers are very good, Ajmal you must wonder how it has only taken him unto the age of 31 to starting to get regular cricket for pakistan, He looks very good,

The Batting line up needs to be supported, Yousuf and Khan are needed, Azhar Ali looks good, But Farhat and Hameed look weak
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« Reply #332 on: August 28, 2010, 04:34:29 PM »

You have to question Hameed's mental attitude when he comes down the track at Broad when they are following on!  ???
I did think Umar looked a good young batting prospect against the Aussies. But he has been a little too aggresive against the England bowling attack! If he were taken under MoYo's wing and taught when to play aggresive shots and when not to, then he may turn out to be a class player!
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #333 on: August 28, 2010, 04:55:10 PM »

And how is it that it's always the tail enders who have these bats I've never heard of!

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« Reply #334 on: August 28, 2010, 07:18:21 PM »

I agree their bowlers are very good, Ajmal you must wonder how it has only taken him unto the age of 31 to starting to get regular cricket for pakistan, He looks very good,



Suppose because danish kaneria has been playing instead of him?
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« Reply #335 on: August 28, 2010, 07:22:04 PM »

You have to question Hameed's mental attitude when he comes down the track at Broad when they are following on!  ???
I did think Umar looked a good young batting prospect against the Aussies. But he has been a little too aggresive against the England bowling attack! If he were taken under MoYo's wing and taught when to play aggresive shots and when not to, then he may turn out to be a class player!
Actually Umar is a good young prospect but I believe there are few off field activities which are pulling him down.

When Umar made his debut under MoYo's captaincy against NZ and Australia he was by far one of the best batsman at that time and wa one of the one on who the team was dependent. As you said it did help him in that series as most of the time he was at the crease with MoYo
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #336 on: August 28, 2010, 07:26:47 PM »

Ajmal and Saqlain both are of same ages. Saqlain is/was better than Ajmal, hence, he didn't get chance. Later Kaneria was best spinner for Pakistan so it was quite difficult to fit him in the playing XI.

Another thing I must say is that both Asif and Amir néed immediate rest as they have played 6 consective test matches and have bowled 20-30 overs in each inning. The injury could be career treathing as well. Pakistan had overbowled with Mohammad Zahid (Who Shoaib Akhtar himself admitted is "yards quicker than me"). So let's hope Amir gets some rest over the next few weeks. Asif will most likely as Gul or Razzaq will replace him for ODIs plus he won't be playing against Saffers in Oct/Nov
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #337 on: August 28, 2010, 07:42:06 PM »

Its a shame as pakistan COULD be a great team. If only they good sort out the problems.
-salman butt isnt a great captain and will take a long time to learn
-catching and fielding is absolute awful!
-of course off field troubles with not playing in pakistan, y.khan etc
- small problems like umar gul and his no balls
- young players like a.ali and umar akmal struggling although ali batted well last test but I suppose its good experiene for them but its not helping the team in the current situation.
- hameed only in the team for his slip catching which is a real shame as he cant bat!
Also on the umar akmal debate , when there is no pressure on him he is a wonderful player.When he goes out and just plays for e.g at essex he hit danish for three massive sixes and destroyed us. Also look out for Shahzaib Hasan, young man he can really bat!

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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #338 on: August 28, 2010, 08:10:34 PM »

And how is it that it's always the tail enders who have these bats I've never heard of!




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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #339 on: August 28, 2010, 09:10:33 PM »

Pakistan suspected match fixing on no balls, currently on BBC news
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #340 on: August 28, 2010, 09:11:58 PM »

Some were pretty big
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« Reply #341 on: August 28, 2010, 09:12:53 PM »

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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #342 on: August 28, 2010, 09:12:59 PM »

Yep, looks pretty conclusive. With Amir bowling those 2 huge no balls as predicted.
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #343 on: August 28, 2010, 09:13:25 PM »

News of the world has a recorded video of a man detailing when the no balls will happen, then during play it happens amir with 2 asif with 1 as well
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Re: ENG vs PAK -
« Reply #344 on: August 28, 2010, 09:15:53 PM »

quelle surprise...
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