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Hi all

i'm seeking help as ive had a particularly bad season with the bat and have been prone to getting out lbw, i was having i think about it yesterday and was thinking of little changes i could make to change this, my coach at my club got me to widen my stance and stand more square on, and have a trigger (back foot back and across)..... I didnt like this as the widened stance made shots of the back foot harder ( i found) so i've closed my stance a little and i prefer this but have been trapped lbw a few times recently to the quicker fuller ball....

I was thinking maybe open my stance back up a touch and try and get my front to trigger facing towards the bowler???

Any suggestions would be welcomed

Thanks

Mike 

[roco]

If your front foot is used in the trigger try going straight forward with it rather than across and you will find it makes a big difference

[Canners]

Thanks Roco

I currently trigger back and across but will try that as thats what i was thinking last night during another restless night thinking about my season haha

[roco]

I had the problem with going too far across but sorted it with this as found when my front foot goes across I tend to go across again with front foot to play shits and found it really helped plus coach said all those things to me about wider stance etc but did not feel comfertable at all

[Canners]

I had the problem with going too far across but sorted it with this as found when my front foot goes across I tend to go across again with front foot to play shits and found it really helped plus coach said all those things to me about wider stance etc but did not feel comfertable at all

Thanks mate

i will be giving you all the credit when i ton up this weekend lol

[Mr Cricket]

Canners, the most important thing here is that you lead with your head and front shoulder towards the ball. once you get your head in line with it then you will not step across it. ask somebody to just roll some balls along the floor to you and practice going with head first, then your foot, then when you have a solid base, hit the ball.

A lot is made of 'Footwork' but if you want your feet to go in the right place (ie. not planted infront of middle) they should follow your head in the process. Please give this a go as it pretty much stopped me from quitting cricket at one point where i was LBW every innings.

[Canners]

Canners, the most important thing here is that you lead with your head and front shoulder towards the ball. once you get your head in line with it then you will not step across it. ask somebody to just roll some balls along the floor to you and practice going with head first, then your foot, then when you have a solid base, hit the ball.

A lot is made of 'Footwork' but if you want your feet to go in the right place (ie. not planted infront of middle) they should follow your head in the process. Please give this a go as it pretty much stopped me from quitting cricket at one point where i was LBW every innings.

Will do Mr cricket

thanks alot for your time and help

Mike

[Buzz]

Morning.

In my experience the commentary "I am having trouble with LBW's" is 99% of the time is frequently mentioned in the same paragraph as "I trigger back and across". 

That is not to say the trigger is at fault but more it can be a symptom. The commentary from Mr Cricket should be helpful - as far back as 1936 Douglas Jardine talks about leading with your head as "the topple", effectively leading with you eyes causes you to topple your front leg onto the line of the ball.

In your post, the first thing that you are concerned with is where you stand and what your stance is. It is a modern fad that batsman are encouraged to stand with a wide base and then trigger. Personally I see people trying it, but it totally over complicates batting - just ask KP. Which is what I think has happened to you.

Your stance should be comfortable and relaxed, a trigger is used to release the tension and help your feet move against fast bowling, unless you are playing Div1 or Premiership standard, I think it is unlikely you are facing anyone fast enough to make it worth triggering. Look how still and balanced Michael Clarke or Matt Prior or Eoin Morgan are at the crease - or if you must have a trigger, see how Bell and Trott play, they are very relaxed and natural at the crease and their trigger takes them into the right position, rather than moving them away from the right position, which is the classic fault of an amateur cricketer.
 
The key is the position you are standing when the ball is released, which must be still, trigger or not. To get this right work backwards from where you need to be at the moment of release. Your right eye (if you are right handed) should be over off stump - you might need to spend some time in front of the mirror to get this right - so work out where your trigger takes you and take a guard which leaves you able to finish in the right place. By being in the right place at the start, you are minimising the risk of being trapped on the crease.

Can you be open chested or closed chested? either can work, but if you are unsure, standing side on is usually a good place to start and typically being slightly open is more comfortable. Your key problem should be to stop triggering into a position which leaves you vulnerable, get your head (and subsequently your feet) into a good position at the start, then you can your on the exercises that Mr Cricket mentions - also having someone underarm flat tennis balls at you is also a good way to work the front foot shots.

Hope that helps

p.s. I would warmly encourage you to ditch the trigger!!

[Mr Cricket]

There truly is no worse feeling than seeing the Umpire raise his finger.

[Canners]

Morning.

In my experience the commentary "I am having trouble with LBW's" is 99% of the time is frequently mentioned in the same paragraph as "I trigger back and across". 

That is not to say the trigger is at fault but more it can be a symptom. The commentary from Mr Cricket should be helpful - as far back as 1936 Douglas Jardine talks about leading with your head as "the topple", effectively leading with you eyes causes you to topple your front leg onto the line of the ball.

In your post, the first thing that you are concerned with is where you stand and what your stance is. It is a modern fad that batsman are encouraged to stand with a wide base and then trigger. Personally I see people trying it, but it totally over complicates batting - just ask KP. Which is what I think has happened to you.

Your stance should be comfortable and relaxed, a trigger is used to release the tension and help your feet move against fast bowling, unless you are playing Div1 or Premiership standard, I think it is unlikely you are facing anyone fast enough to make it worth triggering. Look how still and balanced Michael Clarke or Matt Prior or Eoin Morgan are at the crease - or if you must have a trigger, see how Bell and Trott play, they are very relaxed and natural at the crease and their trigger takes them into the right position, rather than moving them away from the right position, which is the classic fault of an amateur cricketer.
 
The key is the position you are standing when the ball is released, which must be still, trigger or not. To get this right work backwards from where you need to be at the moment of release. Your right eye (if you are right handed) should be over off stump - you might need to spend some time in front of the mirror to get this right - so work out where your trigger takes you and take a guard which leaves you able to finish in the right place. By being in the right place at the start, you are minimising the risk of being trapped on the crease.

Can you be open chested or closed chested? either can work, but if you are unsure, standing square on is usually a good place to start and typically being slightly open is more comfortable. Your key problem should be to stop triggering into a position which leaves you vulnerable, get your head (and subsequently your feet) into a good position at the start, then you can your on the exercises that Mr Cricket mentions - also having someone underarm flat tennis balls at you is also a good way to work the front foot shots.

Hope that helps

p.s. I would warmly encourage you to ditch the trigger!!

Cheers Buzz it appears you know alot more than what grips are good lol

[Bez013]

Some good advice here - I would also say try to ditch the trigger movement.

I tried using quite a big trigger movement last year whilst going through a bad run but just got worse, this year I try to start in the right place for me and be as still as possible at the point of delivery, only moving fully once the ball has been released, I still have a very slight forward movement at the point of delivery but it is more a shift of weight than moving my feet.

Find the right spot for you on the crease to start with and a stance that you feel comfortable with and go from there.  Coaches need to be flexible and understand that every batsman is different, a friend of mine had a lot of coaching early last year and it has taken him 15 months to get his batting back in order....some coaches just try to get everyone to play the same way.

[ianbuchanan]

I have no trigger movement whatsoever and try to play straight every ball. I've been out once LBW in the league in 3 years (And that was a shocker of a decision!)

[Canners]

Ian thats impressive

[ianbuchanan]

What I didnt mention was that I am usually bowled as the ball misses the Bat and my Pads lol

[Canners]

haha i was gonna suggest that and then had visions of you forwarding me your 100 avg and other impressive stats for this season