Topic: Bat tech talk with norbs (Read 8718 times)

kaz · « **Reply #15 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:36:09 PM »

What is the advantage of having a laminate? Would the two layers stiffen the blade? Or is it to allow more volume for the same weight (by having a lighter wood at the back)? And is volume of a bat directly related to its performance?

Thanks in advance!

norbs · « **Reply #16 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:37:36 PM »

Quote from: niceonechoppy on September 15, 2010, 09:20:14 PM

Norbs, what is the difference between a whippy and stiff handle? Does either effect performnce of a cleft? Is there any advantages of one compared to the other?

A Whippy handle will help with this below:

There is the option of having an elastic bat. A bat that has the ability to hold the ball in the hitting area so the bat vibrates far enough through a cycle so it acts as a trampoline. Basically vibrations are wave�s in simple terms if the ball can be held at the point of impact for the time it takes the wave to go down on impact and then back up again. There is effecitivly a rebound effect.

I prefer a stiff handle because

There is the option of having increased stiffness, a bat that doesn�t absorb the energy of bowled ball. So for example the Bowler transfers his energy to the ball and bat transfers it back [hopefully] If the cricket bat vibrates as we know it does on impact it absorbs some of the energy. Therefore the less vibration of the bat the less energy absorbtion and the greater the energy transfer.

By the way I differ in opinion to a very very good bat maker on this so a good question!!!!!

norbs · « **Reply #17 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:39:11 PM »

Quote from: Colesy on September 15, 2010, 09:30:25 PM

Is it possible to create a sweet-spot on a bat where there is not the most wood.

Say you have a standard bat with a low middle, M&H Solution shape, is it possible to create a bat with the same shape but the middle higher up ala Harlequin?

If that makes sense.

I'll think of more questions!!

Yes theoretically you could move the coefficeint of precussion to an area where there is less willow

Richard · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:39:28 PM »

Norbs,

As a front foot, pitch of the ball type player i like having the 'low rider' type shape, lots of meat behind the drive.

I also play at a semi-decent standard with some quite quick bowling on hard tracks.

So i'd like a light pick-up/quick bat speed coupled with a decent sized low end of the bat for my main scoring shots.

Possible?

norbs · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:41:14 PM »

Quote from: kaz on September 15, 2010, 09:36:09 PM

What is the advantage of having a laminate? Would the two layers stiffen the blade? Or is it to allow more volume for the same weight (by having a lighter wood at the back)? And is volume of a bat directly related to its performance?

Thanks in advance!

Kaz yes basically the end goal for laminates is to stiffen the blade but alot are shocking and no better then a normal bat

Colesy · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Richard on September 15, 2010, 09:39:28 PM

Norbs,

As a front foot, pitch of the ball type player i like having the 'low rider' type shape, lots of meat behind the drive.

I also play at a semi-decent standard with some quite quick bowling on hard tracks.

So i'd like a light pick-up/quick bat speed coupled with a decent sized low end of the bat for my main scoring shots.

Possible?

You put my next question into words for me, thank you

Richard · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:43:30 PM »

Great minds and all that...

Colesy · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:44:06 PM »

Correct

norbs · « **Reply #23 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:47:57 PM »

Quote from: Richard on September 15, 2010, 09:39:28 PM

Norbs,

As a front foot, pitch of the ball type player i like having the 'low rider' type shape, lots of meat behind the drive.

I also play at a semi-decent standard with some quite quick bowling on hard tracks.

So i'd like a light pick-up/quick bat speed coupled with a decent sized low end of the bat for my main scoring shots.

Possible?

I'd hate to say this but I would suggest you'd need an offset middle - where you either have a lower edge and high spine or low spine and higher edge. It allows you to get the pickup right, the swing speed feel for the front foot and keeps the middle in the right areas

Other options would be bats like the Black Cat voodoo or M&H Distiniction

Talisman · « **Reply #24 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:52:57 PM »

How would you get the kids to go to bed if you were busy tapping willow and their bedtime had passed???

norbs · « **Reply #25 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Talisman on September 15, 2010, 09:52:57 PM

How would you get the kids to go to bed if you were busy tapping willow and their bedtime had passed???

Hmmm good question....

Cheese strings, no honey and toast and another viewing of the Simpson to bribe them so they don't tell there Mum

Talisman · « **Reply #26 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:55:58 PM »

I might ask your wife that same question but fear I'll get the blame......

kaz · « **Reply #27 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:56:10 PM »

How efficient are bats? Ie approximately what proportion of energy is transfered back onto the ball, assuming the ball hits the middle? I know there are lots and lots of factors..but just curious how much performance could yet be gained. Even a very very rough figure would be amazing, as i havent got the slightest clue.

Colesy · « **Reply #28 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:56:28 PM »

Explain the tapping up theory, and not the kind Chelski do

tim2000s · « **Reply #29 on:** September 15, 2010, 09:57:32 PM »

Norbs, you have pretty much answered a discussion that petehosk and I were having earlier.

It raises an interesting question for a bat maker though. If you were to make two bats of equal weight, and as close as possible identical profile, from different density willows, would you see a performance difference?

I am happy to put myself forward to tet this, if someone wants to make the bats...

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