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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2010, 06:48:05 PM »

Actually I am a Hampshire fan, but I do admit that Somerset have been the best allround team this year.
They were unlucky with the T20 and Champ league, as they were level on runs and level on points on these occasions!
The 40 over final was just unfortunate that they had one or two key players missing who probably would have made a big difference to the run count! The bowling (Turner not included!) is some of the best in County cricket this year, the batting has been strong all year. But the only bad thing about Somerset seems to be a few bad decisions taken at the wrong times...such as letting Turner bowl the 38th over!
But even though Hampshire have some very class batsmen such as Adams, Carberry, etc! I must admit that Somerset have the Strongest team allround (taking all formats)
Still think Adams has been maybe the best batsman though!  ;)
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2010, 07:24:45 PM »

I think that Somerset have been the best team in the country as they has proved themselves to be at the very top of all 3 formats, yes they won nothing but the margin between success and failure at the top is so small that regimes in sport have spent millions trying to find that last 1% gain.

I was lucky enough to talk to Sir Clive Woodward when he was at Southampton as he was renting a flat in the same block as my wife's parents and as a massive Rugby fan spoke to him about the foundations of a team, Rugby or Football as it was at the time. He made some very true observations about the first few steps being the biggest factors and the last few being the smallest but most vital. In competition most teams will have gone for the obvious and easy to implement steps, squad, leadership, management, training etc, but they all do this to a very similar formula. As I stated before I think that the fact that the county with low revenue and small finances takes on and beats most other counties is a lot to do with the last few small factors working well. Consider the amount that Hampshire, Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire have at their disposal for players, staff and facilities and you will see a big gap between them and Somerset.

I have a lot of time for Andy Hurry and think that his approach and background is working as a positive for the team. If players feel the bemoan the need to find a shoulder to cry on then maybe they are not cut out for the very top level of sport. If they need advice as to improve their game or merely to try something different then from what I hear he is a no nonsense kind of guy who deals in realities. He is as is Jason Kerr too a ECB 4 coach and that requires a level of knowledge beyond merely playing first class cricket. England are now spending more time assessing if a player has the mental capacity to fight the very best in an England shirt as much as if they possess the skills. Plenty have had the gifts but not the brain or steel to back them up under pressure, a mix is always needed.

I think that the signing of a 32 year old bowler does not get you going until you think that he will have the mental toughness and honed skill sets required to compete, if it is true that he harbours a desire to play for England and has moved down the road to get Div 1 cricket to force awareness then that is fantastic news for Somerset as I think we could benefit from sub International players being regulars, Trescothick, Kieswetter, Hildreth and Kirby could all be playing every game next season and with good quality solid Pro's such as De Bruyn, Thomas, Trego and Kartik in the side and some players trying to force themselves into these lists the progress that has been made over the past 4 years will continue. I hope that we don't forget that Hurry has been instrumental in making the side a lot more professional in its approach to fitness and the technical side of the game as well as coming up from the bottom divisions to the top of all 3 formats.

I think that they are the best overall and will have the strength to push further next season and win trophies to prove it. And luck always plays a part no matter what anyone says, we are human and make mistakes, some more than others, I'm sure no one is wishing for a title but the more you practice the luckier you get.......
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2010, 07:30:54 PM »

i think you missed pollard out of that list mike :)
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2010, 07:32:52 PM »

He is the wandering cricketer that Flintoff aimed to be, his loyalty is down to the biggest cheque book, I would be surprised if someone else didn't up his salary next season.
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #124 on: September 19, 2010, 07:34:40 PM »

so you don't think he'll be at Somerset :(
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #125 on: September 19, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »

No, but I'll hope he is......
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #126 on: September 19, 2010, 07:43:05 PM »

Cricketers do the same job at any county, they play Cricket...If one County is offering more money than another, you'd naturally go.  Much like any other job, they want the best lifestyle possible.
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #127 on: September 19, 2010, 07:45:28 PM »

Dont forget George Dockrell of ireland is going to somerset
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #128 on: September 19, 2010, 07:53:03 PM »

Don't doubt Sarge's or Jason's coaching credentials. Both are top blokes, I have played against them both lots of times, and like you say are doing a great job. I'm just wondering wondering what will make them into winners. I'm sure once they win one trophy they could go on and win the lot although having lost all 3 its going to be a even bigger hurdle to get over next season.

Also heard a rumour from a very good source that Hampshire are trying to sign Hilldreth. Now that would be a disaster
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #129 on: September 19, 2010, 07:56:42 PM »

Is Dockrell signing?, I hadn't heard that he has signed the contract that was offered.

Hampshire has not been a happy hunting ground for those looking to further their England claims, can't see that changing any time soon.
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #130 on: September 19, 2010, 08:04:13 PM »

then why is tahir going back to hampshire?
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #131 on: September 19, 2010, 08:04:51 PM »

From the SCCC website

Losing skipper Trescothick admitted the season had been "pretty devastating" for his side after seeing them lose the Twenty20 final on the last delivery to Hampshire at the Rose Bowl last month before Nottinghamshire pipped them to the Division One title in the dying seconds of the campaign on Thursday.

"They are all gutted, as you can imagine," he said. "It's very tough to take, but we have to learn some lessons from what is happening. There is a reason why it happens.

"You only have to look at the two guys from Warwickshire; Imran Tahir getting five to take the heart out of the game then Ian Bell showing the world-class player he is.

"That's what you've got to do if you want to be the best, you have to show it at times. We've got to improve and try to emulate that."
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Re: CB40 final Warwickshire vs Somerset
« Reply #132 on: September 20, 2010, 08:01:23 AM »

then why is tahir going back to hampshire?

Apparently he had already signed up for the 2011 season with Hampshire before he signed this year for Warwickshire as apparently they interviewed Ashley Giles afterwards and this is what he said and they didn't have the option to extend his contract.
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