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Warsop and the perception
« on: October 19, 2010, 09:21:42 AM »

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I'd thought I would voice my opinion on Warsop as I've just seen the result against the kooks and a few people saying stuff about them....

In my opinion Warsop [Tony et-al] are one of the best bat makers in the UK and have been producing quality bats for decades.  It pains me to see them getting the brush off and some of the comments about them compared to other bats

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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 09:25:08 AM »

I personally would rate any bat which is handmade by an individual to be a candidate to be best bat over than those that are imported and stickered up,

I have not used a Warsop but have used Kookaburra, And was never that impressed with them.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 09:31:23 AM »

My experience of Kooks is not great. My experience of Warsops isn't either. I haven't got on with any of either that I've borrowed. One of my team mates has been particularly unlucky with his Warsops and has had to have two replaced due to them splitting.

I didn't vote in this round.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 09:34:46 AM »

A lad at my club has one of Mark Pettini's bats and when i first saw it i thought nothing of it because it was so small but it just showed how well made they are as it is like a rocket. He is not even a big hitter but the power i the blade has allowed him to hit some massive 6's !!!
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 09:39:11 AM »

I was not surprised by the closeness of the vote, Kookaburra are able to spend a lot of money on player endorsements as they know it works in influencing people to buy their kit, They buy their kit at the lowest possible price due to their size and choice of manufacturer and therefore make great profit margins, even at trade prices, there is nothing wrong with this, it is a great business model.

This is a popularity contest and I'm sure no one here on the forum could have voted for more than the odd round with knowledge of both brands so there is no slight on any of the losing brands.

I think if we were talking about the reasons why we would buy a bat then not many would say because Ricky Ponting uses one, we are mostly intelligent enough to know that he is paid very well to associate himself with any brand and will use the finest product he can find to score runs. Warsop only sell direct, they only make what they can and they put heart, soul and a lot of hard work into their kit. I'm lucky enough to know them and I've nothing but respect for what they do. They have carved out a long standing reputation for quality and I find it gratifying that they are not chasing the impressionable punter for their pound.

But this is just a fun topic so lets see who wins, for it carries no prize.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 09:40:19 AM »

Have seen some brilliant Warsop bats around, and have been down to their workshop myself - enormously impressed.  Having said that, a couple of the Kookaburras I picked up this year were brilliant.  One SH lower model Kahuna that one of the colts I coach had, possessed the most responsive middle of anything I picked up all year.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 09:44:24 AM »

A lad at my club has one of Mark Pettini's bats and when i first saw it i thought nothing of it because it was so small but it just showed how well made they are as it is like a rocket. He is not even a big hitter but the power i the blade has allowed him to hit some massive 6's !!!

I was speaking to Pete at the weekend and we discussed small looking bats....  The thing people forget is the wood mass is there on classic shape bats because there is no concaving.  This obsession with large edges is just a current fashion there is no technical benefit with regards to "ping"

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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 09:49:54 AM »

I did not mind the size of the bat before i came on this forum :P that bat did remind me a small bat can pack a big punch !
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 09:55:44 AM »

I was not surprised by the closeness of the vote, Kookaburra are able to spend a lot of money on player endorsements as they know it works in influencing people to buy their kit, They buy their kit at the lowest possible price due to their size and choice of manufacturer and therefore make great profit margins, even at trade prices, there is nothing wrong with this, it is a great business model.

This is a popularity contest and I'm sure no one here on the forum could have voted for more than the odd round with knowledge of both brands so there is no slight on any of the losing brands.

I think if we were talking about the reasons why we would buy a bat then not many would say because Ricky Ponting uses one, we are mostly intelligent enough to know that he is paid very well to associate himself with any brand and will use the finest product he can find to score runs. Warsop only sell direct, they only make what they can and they put heart, soul and a lot of hard work into their kit. I'm lucky enough to know them and I've nothing but respect for what they do. They have carved out a long standing reputation for quality and I find it gratifying that they are not chasing the impressionable punter for their pound.

But this is just a fun topic so lets see who wins, for it carries no prize.

Not just the CBWC - for example there was a Reback or SAF or Warsop thread and they hardly got a look in!!  I was disappointed to see that  :(

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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 10:16:54 AM »


I voted Warsop simply because they hand make there own bats unlike kooks, also being an Essex lad i have to stay faithful to my own..... also i remember my bro having a top of the range kook that was an absolute plank (although im sure there are some pretty fantastic kookaburra's out there)

Like all brands i guess there's a chance you could get a bad one or a good one, so if someones had a bad experience with that particular batmaker the chances are theyre not going to vote for them
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 10:21:30 AM »

not a fan of most kooks but voted them as only one i have owned was the graphite backed kahuna which was a very good bat

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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 10:22:04 AM »

Cheer up Norbs - most people who know about bats know that Warsop make tremendous bats. People who don't know about bats will think that the more expensive a bat is the better it will be - Kookaburra make very well branded bats which are expensive and therefore those not in the know will buy them. That is how the likes of Fordham Sports stay in business - sorry for stating the obvious.

The fact that a huge number of Pro's use bats with Kookaburra stickers on means that they are able to give the perception that they make the most bats for the best players. It comes down to knowledge providing power. If you buy a Burberry coat will it be any better than a smaller brand coat - maybe, but probably it wont be. The principle is the same, when you are in the know you can get the best deal.

I am sure you will remember in a blind bat test, done by pro's, it was a smaller brand who won the day...(!) There is hope for the likes of Redback, Warsop and SAF... plus would the likes of SAF and Redback want to be able to make the number of units sold by Kookaburra as when you get to that size, compromises have to be made...
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 10:29:49 AM »

I've had 2 kooks and both had to be sent back more than once!! Their softs are awesome though. I haven't had a Warsop but a lad at our club got 1 this season and it goes better than any kookaburra I've used or seen and it's not even a top of the range.
You can't really compare machine made to handmade. The quality will never be as good in my opinion.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 10:31:57 AM »

Not just the CBWC - for example there was a Reback or SAF or Warsop thread and they hardly got a look in!!  I was disappointed to see that  :(
They're just not in fashion at the moment.

We've had the Fusion trend, MB Malik, Warsop, Laver, Redback, Solitaire. As soon as someone on here buys a new Warsop which looks big with nice grains they'll begin to get more mentions.
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Re: Warsop and the perception
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 10:33:07 AM »

Maybe people voted Kookaburra, voted them on the overall perception of all their equipment i.e softs, luggage etc and are forgetting that its just a bat world cup........ i think that anyone that knows there bats would have voted Warsop down to the fact that they make their own and like many have said dont pump all their money into paying players to put stickers on their bats made by proper bat makers. However they may have just had a Kook that was an incredibly good blade
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