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[awp]

Im still relatively new here so I apologise if what Im asking is common knowledge.  Seems to be some boutique companies who make their own and others who outsource production.  Can we make a list of the 2 or doesnt it really matter? 

Of the companies that outsource I assume the bats are their own design and they have them made? 

I've read "so and so has them made by Newbery"

maybe you experts can add to the lists.....

Companies that make their own bats
SAF - Andy
H4L - Matt

Companies that outsource
- made by ??

[procricket]

i do not think many will want to answer this question mate

[ProWannabe88]

Touchy subject I bet, easy one for me though. At blue room Robert makes all the bats himself. they are not made by any other podshaver at all, and they are not sourced from anywhere else.

[awp]

I'm not sure why it should be a touchy subject, we're talking facts arent we? 

I dont see anything wrong with contracting out the batmaking any more than outsourcing softs

[tim2000s]

And if we look at it most freely admit it. See the Instinct cricket thread. The non-batmakers include Talisman, Mongoose, Ayrtek, Lekka and Instinct. In some cases they have their own Willow, in others they source it. I guess it is the difference between being a brand and a podshaver.

[Talisman]

I do not make my own, that might change but beware of those making false claims saying they make all their own bats themselves, they may be economical with the truth and that is a very bad starting point when buying a bat.

[jonpinson]

I guess it comes down to using common sense. Those who do make their own bats are rightly proud of it and clearly advertise it. Those who buy in and add their own branding will admit it, and will tell you if they are English made or Asian made. It doesn't take much to figure out who is doing what and there is no problem as none who do not make their own claim to make them (I speak specifically about the brands associated with this forum, you may find differently elsewhere)

Although many of those who buy their bats in from a maker will not openly admit to who made them due to contractual issues, it is a pretty poorly kept secret and anyone who spends time on the forum can usually put two and two together. That said, due to the delicate nature of it all, it's not looked upon well for someone to make guesses in public. So let's not turn this into a guess the batmaker thread.

[roco]

What do you class as making yourself as alot machine shape then hand finish foes that count

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Branded by Ayrtek made in the Uk to a level that I'm happy with.....if I wasn't they wouldn't have our branding on them!

[Talisman]

I'd class making as performing the machining and pressing yourself, the sanding and shaping if required is finishing.

Tom, you are man of high standards when it come to bats.....

[roco]

He is just sucking up mike ha

How difficult is it to machine the bay as assume it's just a basic cnc?

[Talisman]

You need to saw off the waxed ends, run through a cutter to get the width right and plane the face to shape, shape shoulders and toe and maybe profile on a CNC and then cut splice, also cut a handle, pre press, bow press and finally fit the handle. Then you need to draw down the handle and sand and polish.

I know you've seen all this at GM and the sanding and finishing is the easy bit. Once you have a decent program on the CNC it is easy, just press the button....

[jonpinson]

I'd class making as performing the machining and pressing yourself, the sanding and shaping if required is finishing.

Tom, you are man of high standards when it come to bats.....

Good point, but it does annoy me a bit when 'handmade' is associated with CNC made bats. Nothing wrong with CNC but it is a tad misleading. To me a handmade bat is one where handtools are used from beginning to end.

[Talisman]

Very few bats in the UK will be handmade, and Asian bats are becoming more machine made by the day.

[Simmy]

Companies that make their own bats
SAF - Andy
H4L - Matt
Newbery
GN
GM
Kippax
Warrior
Nixon

Think we then have comapnys inbetween that may do the shaping and the finishing from pre handedled stuff




Companies that outsource:
Talisman
Mongoose
Ayrtek
Lekka
Instinct
Black Cat
Bulldog
Joda
Piri piri


end of day i dont think its that importand where a bat comes from as long as its a good bat!

ps some of the people in the list above i may be wrong about.