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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: imogzyboy on March 29, 2011, 01:18:44 PM
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i would love to take year out and go play away from the u.k
can anybody tell me about there experiences?
and how to go bout it?
thanks morgan
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I havent done it myself but a friend of mine is back tomorrow from his 2nd winter away in Oz. I believe both times have been arranged by contacts (either his own or other people at the club we play at). Worth doing a bit of research into visa rules of any country you are interested in, as this can affect what work options you may have etc
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I played in Perth WA for a season. I went on the cricket aus website decide where you want to go then click on the local clubs in that area. Most have email addresses. I emailed them my cricketing cv. Wait for the replies and then pick Which one you want. I emailed a contact a the club I went too for a while, checked progress over the season etc
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what sort of level of cricket did/do play at?
what sort of thing to put in a cricket c.v?
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I played in Sydney for a year i arranged this via my overseas player that was at my club the previous season, i ended up not playing alot of cricket and just having a good time, great experience tho
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Played wastca league. League below waca league. Pretty good standard. Also played rep sides and played the under 21 aides of the waca league. You can email alot of leagues. I got a few waca clubs reply and a few metropolitan league clubs. Metro clubs played on artificial wickets so didn't see the point in going all that way for that.
Just put on what u do, who u play for, if you coach, cricketing acheivements, high scores/ best figures.
I managed to get part time work as well in a working holiday visa. Valid for 12 months I think.
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where abouts can i find the e-mail addresses :) thanks
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Cricket.com.au then get involved. Click on each state and then should be a list of clubs on there
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how did you find funding yourself to live and play out there?
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saved up before i went. got cheap rent as stayed with the 1st captain. just gotta make sure you go with some funds already there. worked part time. prob spend £150 a month more than i earnt so wasnt too bad. loved every minute out there. i emailed approx 40-50 clubs. got abut 10-12 replies back
http://www.wastca.com.au/common/pages/public/iv/clubs.aspx?
thats the link to the league i played in, all contacts are there. if you dont fancy perth then cricket aus website. click on the state logos approx half way down the page. should open up a new page. each state page is slightly different but you should be able to find the leagues that are available then a contact list. if not on there just google the league and there will be a contact page there.
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Are you pretty much thinking of going to Oz? Same mate who has been there 2 years in a row was very close to going to SA instead, meant to be cheap to live in SA compared to Oz
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If you wanted a job with a charity related to cricket and to play, I have some contacts in Jamaica.
Could also put you in touch with people for Uganda and Afghanistan!
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Played in Australia on a month tour played at Manly,North Sydney, and in Melbourne did not win a game either or score a run well not many did go up the eurika building though and the Mcg and Scg.
Played in Kenya great ground bloody road of a wicket.
Holland was good too Ultrect great nightlife.... :o
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i have been offered 2 chances to play in australia after sending information of to a number of teams :D
tim could you give me some more information please :)
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i have been offered 2 chances to play in australia after sending information of to a number of teams :D
tim could you give me some more information please :)
PM me with what you want to know.
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whats teams have contacted you? anywhere nice?
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my mate went over to aus about 4 years ago for 6 months to play. he played for langwarrin cricket club i think.
said it was a good experiance he came back about 3 stone heavier lol and picked up a extra yard of pace
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I played for Bankstown in Sydney Grade Comp (Mark and Steve Waughs Club amongst others).. the standard is unbelievable out there. Went when i was 17 turned 18 out there was one of best experiances of my life mostly great people but you dont get called my your name much mostly just POMME or POM, id tell anyone if they get the chance to go the country is amazing and you wont want to come home!
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completely agree with that best place in the world. i was in perth during the 5-0 drubbing they gave us. Aussies are bad enough normally but given that result made me the centre of all jokes. good fun tho
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Sydney and to a lesser extent Melbournes Grade comps will be a very high standard. All other comps in australia will but those two in particular. In Sydney, which I can speak for as I am from there, It is rare that any import gets anywhere near first team cricket. I have only ever seen a handfull of imports play first team cricket being Nick Crompton (or Compton ...whatever, hes well known in England), Tim Murtagh (or somthing?) and Ben France who played some county cricket was hobbling between 1s and 2s a few years ago.
The reason Australia is probably more competitive is it has a far more competitive structure. In England as its all about the club you play for, you can get great players playing in low divisions as they just want to play with the club. In Sydney for example its easy. You want to play serious cricket then you play Grade Cricket and even 5th Grade is a very decent standard and its not uncommon for 4th and 5th graders to go overseas and play league cricket as the overseas in England. I know for example some clubs this year had some u19 county players who were just playing and not exactly killing 3rd team cricket.
It is however weaker in other states. For example I know a 6th Grader from sydney who moved to adelaide and was playing 2nd and 3rd grade cricket over there. Message me if you need any help so you can find a club which suits you.
From any pom who comes out here I can guarantee you one thing they do all say is that they dont want to leave and they wish they lived out here.
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From any pom who comes out here I can guarantee you one thing they do all say is that they dont want to leave and they wish they lived out here.
but the positives are all totally outwayed by the fact you are surrounded by Aussies (;))
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Sydney and to a lesser extent Melbournes Grade comps will be a very high standard. All other comps in australia will but those two in particular. In Sydney, which I can speak for as I am from there, It is rare that any import gets anywhere near first team cricket. I have only ever seen a handfull of imports play first team cricket being Nick Crompton (or Compton ...whatever, hes well known in England), Tim Murtagh (or somthing?) and Ben France who played some county cricket was hobbling between 1s and 2s a few years ago.
The reason Australia is probably more competitive is it has a far more competitive structure. In England as its all about the club you play for, you can get great players playing in low divisions as they just want to play with the club. In Sydney for example its easy. You want to play serious cricket then you play Grade Cricket and even 5th Grade is a very decent standard and its not uncommon for 4th and 5th graders to go overseas and play league cricket as the overseas in England. I know for example some clubs this year had some u19 county players who were just playing and not exactly killing 3rd team cricket.
It is however weaker in other states. For example I know a 6th Grader from sydney who moved to adelaide and was playing 2nd and 3rd grade cricket over there. Message me if you need any help so you can find a club which suits you.
From any pom who comes out here I can guarantee you one thing they do all say is that they dont want to leave and they wish they lived out here.
So true Hads, i play 1st team back home since i was 16 , i played 5th grade for most of the time there and got a few games in 3rd grade but to fair a lot of it wasnt to do with I wasnt good enough to play higher it was because they see it as a guy whos only goin to be here one season is taking a place of a potential upcoming younger player they will always look after there own first thats just the way its setup in oz, phil mustard was there a couple of years after me I think and started in 5th grade got like 2 ducks or something and a big score went up to 4ths didnt get many and went home. it is a totally different set up over there there isnt as much social side but they take cricket side very serious i.e no nets no match etc
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So true Hads, i play 1st team back home since i was 16 , i played 5th grade for most of the time there and got a few games in 3rd grade but to fair a lot of it wasnt to do with I wasnt good enough to play higher it was because they see it as a guy whos only goin to be here one season is taking a place of a potential upcoming younger player they will always look after there own first thats just the way its setup in oz, phil mustard was there a couple of years after me I think and started in 5th grade got like 2 ducks or something and a big score went up to 4ths didnt get many and went home. it is a totally different set up over there there isnt as much social side but they take cricket side very serious i.e no nets no match etc
On grading it really depends. If you are very very good you will obviously play very high. But if your the same as another guy, particularly if they are young, theyll get the nod over you. But like anything, you score the runs and id be suprised if you wernt up the grades.
On the social side, then no there isnt a great one in Sydney Grade. Sydney Grades the best amateur competition in the world (thats what they say anyway), and its serious in every aspect from training, to club fear, to arriving there 1 hour before minimum etc. I dont know what its like but im guessing premier league and minor counties would be somthing similar. If you did come to Sydney there are obviously other comps which are more social and alot less competitive and I know for a fact in some other states like Adelaide and Tasmania the standard and seriousness is definetly a lot lesser.
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On grading it really depends. If you are very very good you will obviously play very high. But if your the same as another guy, particularly if they are young, theyll get the nod over you. But like anything, you score the runs and id be suprised if you wernt up the grades.
On the social side, then no there isnt a great one in Sydney Grade. Sydney Grades the best amateur competition in the world (thats what they say anyway), and its serious in every aspect from training, to club fear, to arriving there 1 hour before minimum etc. I dont know what its like but im guessing premier league and minor counties would be somthing similar. If you did come to Sydney there are obviously other comps which are more social and alot less competitive and I know for a fact in some other states like Adelaide and Tasmania the standard and seriousness is definetly a lot lesser.
Well I went to play the highest standard I could and wasnt intrested really in the social side so bankstown was perfect for me, they even payed me to do the scoreboard for england 19s vs australia 19s , bresnan and bopara played, and also england women vs aus women in a 4dayer, the guys i went with from my club they played 2nds and 4ths at Auburn in the shires league and one guy played for parrammatta. We got to the Semis that year and the 3s and 4s didnt so I kind of got kept in the 5th grade team more than I should of because of that. As you said the standard is slightly different elsewere but Bankstown are a quality team. When i came back home and said that Banktown 1st grade would give the county teams here a good game if not win against some they could not believe it. Remember my first day down at Bankstown oval stuary macgill getting smashed around the ground.
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Steny, when you played for Bankstown was the groundsman a bloke by the name of steve gazsmelski?
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Well I went to play the highest standard I could and wasnt intrested really in the social side so bankstown was perfect for me, they even payed me to do the scoreboard for england 19s vs australia 19s , bresnan and bopara played, and also england women vs aus women in a 4dayer, the guys i went with from my club they played 2nds and 4ths at Auburn in the shires league and one guy played for parrammatta. We got to the Semis that year and the 3s and 4s didnt so I kind of got kept in the 5th grade team more than I should of because of that. As you said the standard is slightly different elsewere but Bankstown are a quality team. When i came back home and said that Banktown 1st grade would give the county teams here a good game if not win against some they could not believe it. Remember my first day down at Bankstown oval stuary macgill getting smashed around the ground.
Thats it. 1st Grade teams here in Sydney, and strong ones in other states would push some county teams. Sam Robson for example gets more runs in First Class than he does for Easts in Sydney. And yeah as I said you could play lower divisions like your mates and play higher grades. You could also go to a weaker grade club and play higher. Bankstowns about as high as you get with Sydney Uni. And yeah of course you get the finals dilemma which always kicks in mid season where you generally stay with the team to try and win the comp.
But 5th Grade grade bankstown for example would anhiliate all the local 1st grade sides in sydney. Its hard too explain to someone that but its true. Its definetly a big cut above premier league anyway. Plenty of County players have come over thinking they will dominate 1st team cricket like they do at home and failed to do so. In saying that plenty of state players here come back and really fail to dominate . Look at Usman Khawajas season! http://www.sydneygrade.nsw.cricket.com.au/showrvcontent.aspx?playerID=67172&eID=261&seasonID=77&loc=/cricket/reports/player.asp&loc1/player.asp
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Sydney and to a lesser extent Melbournes Grade comps will be a very high standard. All other comps in australia will but those two in particular. In Sydney, which I can speak for as I am from there, It is rare that any import gets anywhere near first team cricket. I have only ever seen a handfull of imports play first team cricket being Nick Crompton (or Compton ...whatever, hes well known in England), Tim Murtagh (or somthing?) and Ben France who played some county cricket was hobbling between 1s and 2s a few years ago.
The reason Australia is probably more competitive is it has a far more competitive structure. In England as its all about the club you play for, you can get great players playing in low divisions as they just want to play with the club. In Sydney for example its easy. You want to play serious cricket then you play Grade Cricket and even 5th Grade is a very decent standard and its not uncommon for 4th and 5th graders to go overseas and play league cricket as the overseas in England. I know for example some clubs this year had some u19 county players who were just playing and not exactly killing 3rd team cricket.
It is however weaker in other states. For example I know a 6th Grader from sydney who moved to adelaide and was playing 2nd and 3rd grade cricket over there. Message me if you need any help so you can find a club which suits you.
From any pom who comes out here I can guarantee you one thing they do all say is that they dont want to leave and they wish they lived out here.
Pmd you with a few questions bud
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would just let you know team in tasmania called george town are very keen for me to play for them :)
anyone ever played in tasmania?
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sorry to bug people!
buuuuuut i have sortedout my team to go to over seas just wondering what visas people went on?
also whos good to fly with ?
thanks morgan
(australia btw)
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If you want to work out there for a bit of money whilst playing then a working holiday visa is probably best, and Emirates for Australia always pretty good.
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yeah would work a bit out there in bars etc
they haved asked me to go out in august i cant wait! just hope i aint rubbish to there standard :P
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because i live in aus,
i am a REP cricketer and i am going to apply for a scholrship in a university in the UK.
has anyone done this before and how good is the standard?
Nick
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Im flying to Brisbane in 3 month, to play for Valley District Cricket club, for the next season.
One of Queenslands biggest clubs, with over 1100 members and 50 teams and im looking very much forward to try the aussie cricket..
A Working Holiday is the right Visa for that kind of things.
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Im flying to Brisbane in 3 month, to play for Valley District Cricket club, for the next season.
One of Queenslands biggest clubs, with over 1100 members and 50 teams and im looking very much forward to try the aussie cricket..
A Working Holiday is the right Visa for that kind of things.
ohh,
valleys, yer they are a massive club and all diks! :D
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to work in bars in aus i think you need to go on a hospitality course( google it and im sure u can find out). unless its just the club bar then im not too sure it will matter. as for flights go on expedia or somewhere like that. ive flown malaysian who were pretty good and qantas. plenty of options to get there. as most people are on a budget go for the cheapest that suits you. although i havent had experience with most of the other airlines im sure they are pretty much the same. obviously you get your bad service horror stories but i bet you get them on most of them.
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I play in the Victorian Sub District Cricket Association (VSDCA) which is the second highest league in Victoria and we always have players from England come out and play with us. So if any of you are of that standard and are looking to play high grade cricket in Australia send me a pm and if it is not with my club I can point you to another club.
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Think I am looking at going over this winter, October onwards - got accomodation in the Sydney just need to find a club
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Who do you play for Johng???
I have a relo that plays in that assocation
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Queensland Premier Grade Comp is where it's at. We had a couple of UK lads come over to our club and numerous others went to other clubs in our comp.
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Im flying to Brisbane in 3 month, to play for Valley District Cricket club, for the next season.
One of Queenslands biggest clubs, with over 1100 members and 50 teams and im looking very much forward to try the aussie cricket..
A Working Holiday is the right Visa for that kind of things.
You will be playing against my club/me (depending on what grade's we play). I play for Western Suburbs District Cricket Club (Qld). We won the club championship (Best Club across all grades) 3 years in a row in: 2008, 2009 and 2010 and we just missed out last season, 2011, and came second. It would have been a record if we had of won 4 in a row but just missed out. So I like to think we are the best club, lol. Didn't help that we missed 6 games due to rain and the floodings during the 10/11 season.
But Valley's improved alot last season and I have a few mate's who play for them. I have no doubt that you will enjoy it. Look forward to possibly playing against you.
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ohh,
valleys, yer they are a massive club and all diks! :D
Do you play in Brisbane?
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You will be playing against my club/me (depending on what grade's we play). I play for Western Suburbs District Cricket Club (Qld). We won the club championship (Best Club across all grades) 3 years in a row in: 2008, 2009 and 2010 and we just missed out last season, 2011, and came second. It would have been a record if we had of won 4 in a row but just missed out. So I like to think we are the best club, lol. Didn't help that we missed 6 games due to rain and the floodings during the 10/11 season.
But Valley's improved alot last season and I have a few mate's who play for them. I have no doubt that you will enjoy it. Look forward to possibly playing against you.
I will be hoping to play grade 2 or 3..
are you living in Brisbane?
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Yeah I live in Brisbane.
I have played for Wests (used to play in the Ipswich league for Juniour's) for 2 years and last year was really a yo-yo between 2's, 3's and 4's. So I hope I'm consistantly up next season.
Looks like I may play you.