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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Ayrtek Cricket => Topic started by: Talisman on May 08, 2011, 07:37:50 AM
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I know a few people who question the benefit of a safer helmet, I think a trip to Notts may yield sales for Sales.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/13323087.stm
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Do you think he'd have been ok if he was wearing a different lid then?
Isn't it always going to be a problem if you take one in the grille as doesnt the grille end up tilting the helmet and results in the grille making contact with your face??
E.g pointing in the ashes......
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A lad in our game got a bash on the chin yesterday against tom's lot, he just had a red lump there so wasnt too bad, i thought tom was gonna lecture him big time about helmets!
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Do you think he'd have been ok if he was wearing a different lid then?
Isn't it always going to be a problem if you take one in the grille as doesnt the grille end up tilting the helmet and results in the grille making contact with your face??
E.g pointing in the ashes......
If you have a helmet which fits your head properly and doesn't move around on impact, the grille should not hit your face. Tom had some simulation videos done showing this on Ayrtek lids.
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Iv just driven to London this morning to drop a new grille to James Taylor he got hit twice om Friday by dernbach at 90 mph...one off a length straight on and once hooking. He has a small cut on the bridge of his nose where the helmet wasn't being worm tight enough under the chin strap by his own admission as well as the Leicester physios.
He's sending back the grille which has done it's job and has a couple of dents in it as a result!!! The combination of a helmet that it fitted properly via the ACIS, the 4 point chin strap and an actual titanium grille all stopped any serious injury!
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For the sake of parity, do we know for certain that the serious injury caused in the case shown by the OP was directly due to the type of helmet that was used?
I don't doubt that the Ayrtek helmets are the best available, if anyone isn't convinced by the technology, just look at the sudden adoption of them by many counties this year. Obviously people in the know realise the benefits Ayrtek helmets offer.
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Won me. Looking at a custom helmet for club as a sample could be another 8 at least do you ship to Australia?
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are there any shop stockists of ayrtek helmets?
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I delivered 3 lids to the Somerset boys for Tom on Wednesday, and if you want to know what they thought of them then the answer is that they were fighting over them. Trego did not get his as we were chatting and Kieswetter took it, 2 of the boys walked out and batted in them within an hour of getting them. Kirb's was saying how he wears the ball all the time and needed this lid as the other brands simply did not do a good enough job.
I'm not saying that Hales would have been absolutely fine in an Ayrtek but the research and verdict of the Pro's I've spoken to is that they rate them far above any other brand, only got to see the lines of them in county colours on Tom's office floor to see this is going to be the only helmet worn very very soon on the Pro circuit.
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Mike stop making me wanna put my hand in my pocket
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I sold mine which in hindsight was a touch stupid but no doubt will get another
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Roll on next weekend when the big boy grills turn up!
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Will keep u updated on them Timothy as there was a weeks delay im the making of tge raw titanium, will let u know eta tomorrow once iv heard back from our manufacturer
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For the sake of parity, do we know for certain that the serious injury caused in the case shown by the OP was directly due to the type of helmet that was used?
I don't doubt that the Ayrtek helmets are the best available, if anyone isn't convinced by the technology, just look at the sudden adoption of them by many counties this year. Obviously people in the know realise the benefits Ayrtek helmets offer.
this is a direct grill hit..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVR_MEeVOk
jobs a good one
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Looks like he should have hooked it out of the ground to me ;)
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Mike if Ayrtek wont deliver to Au can you organise? Need 1 first up
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I'm sure they would but I'm happy to help with it regardless.
This is an interesting take from Albion, they can add foam to their helmets to increase the padding by whole millimetre's....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-6ite_UE-k&NR=1
Then see what their lid does when hit in this short little clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq14GY834rs&feature=related
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If you have a helmet which fits your head properly and doesn't move around on impact, the grille should not hit your face. Tom had some simulation videos done showing this on Ayrtek lids.
Is this simulation video still floating around...Would be interesting to see
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Sorry missed ur post John, yes we ship to Aus, got a couple goin out there today...summit sports have shown an interest in distributing on our behalf....are they big out there?
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Simulation videos we did when looking at our design...ball impact @ 99mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_JcC1RF3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1MzQ_tIKu8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Ouchy!!! I am with Canners though, get you head out of the way am smash it backward of square!
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Have you tried Greg Chappell Cricket Centre (QLD, NSW, ACT and VIC), Kingsgrove Sports (NSW) or Meulemans (WA)? If you get in one of them, then you will do really well. GCCC would be the best as they are up the whole east cost of Australia.
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I think someone like Kingsgrove would be a good place to start Ayrtek...They are pretty big out here
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Either Greg Chappell or Kingsgrove would be good.
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Either Greg Chappell or Kingsgrove would be good.
Agree
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Sorry missed ur post John, yes we ship to Aus, got a couple goin out there today...summit sports have shown an interest in distributing on our behalf....are they big out there?
Not to sure if their based in Melbourne and how big they are but your helmets will go really well here. I need to get one knocked up for the club to have a look at can I send you the club logo and desired color??
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Yes mate wing it over to me and ill have a look at it.... info@ayrtek.com
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I predict that these Lids will be worn by every international team within 2 years. Before I came to this forum and before I knew anything about the Ayrtek product I seen Sangakara with his and thought that these are the new lids of the future.
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It will be interesting for sure but i suspect Albion to buy out Ayrtek or something along those lines
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That would make Tom very happy... And he can have a big party to which we all can go if that happens!
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Sounds good to me ;) rome wasnt built in a day though lol
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Whats sounds good? For Albion to buy out Ayrtek or for all international teams to be wearing them?
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Some interesting reading this morning when looking at the BSI test procedure that was written in 1998......
Helmets are tested at a velocity of impact that is the equivalent of a range of 55-67 mph delivery!!!! helmets are passing these tests and are safe enough to protect you against a spinner hitting you effectively.....which begs the question.....how do you know they are going to protect you from a 70+ delivery ???
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Humm, as we are dreaming, if it were me, I'd wait until the Ayrtek lids have a proven negative impact on the sales of Masuri and Albion lids before it is worth selling up - then the pay cheque will be a load bigger :)
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Some interesting reading this morning when looking at the BSI test procedure that was written in 1998......
Helmets are tested at a velocity of impact that is the equivalent of a range of 55-67 mph delivery!!!! helmets are passing these tests and are safe enough to protect you against a spinner hitting you effectively.....which begs the question.....how do you know they are going to protect you from a 70+ delivery ???
play club cricket where no one bowls quicker than 70mph?
humm, I wouldn't ordinarily wear a lid unless someone was bowling quicker than 70mph... interesting dilemma
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More for all international teams to be wearing them.....however if someone wants to come along and buy the company in a multi million pound deal im happy to see true my aim i set at 18 of being a millionaire by the time im 30 ;)
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Thats my point sir Buzz.....you would prob only reach for the lid when someone a little tasty comes along.....if the Helmets have only been tested to show they are safe against the slower speeds then surely they should be tested against speeds that they are more likely to be used in ?
more pace from bowler = less reaction time to avoid the ball if one does come at your bonce ???
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Are they patented?
I am 100% confident that these lids will take off like wild fire very shortly
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I have the same feeling too, just need to get them into shops where people can try them on etc and make them more accessible.
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That's my point sir Buzz.....you would prob only reach for the lid when someone a little tasty comes along.....if the Helmets have only been tested to show they are safe against the slower speeds then surely they should be tested against speeds that they are more likely to be used in ?
more pace from bowler = less reaction time to avoid the ball if one does come at your bonce ???
typically what you will see is either a comedy duck or wild flail at thin air in the general direction of where the ball was five minutes ago.
This actually makes it more relevent at the moment as I have been in discussions with our club chairman about making our pitch a little more "juicy" to encourage results (we have a decent pace attack this season) - but if my Masuri lid will be useless/untested at 70mph plus, then sod the bowlers, I'll keep my mouth shut and we can keep our "road"!
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Yes protection is in place for them.....hope your correct and sales continue to rise :D
Buzz, Good plan mate....think the test standard needs updating to cater for the fact bolwers are hurling it down alot faster than they were in 1998. Also making the procedure a bit more relivant to a real life impact would help!
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Send one over and I am more than happy to show Harry Solomons and the Kingsgrove boys...lol
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There is a RAW thats doing the rounds in Aus ATM mate....think they may have seen it but not 100% sure as its not my area in regards to sales etc
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Better get a shipping container prepared then...I am sure you will be sending a boatload over shortly...
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Humm, as we are dreaming, if it were me, I'd wait until the Ayrtek lids have a proven negative impact on the sales of Masuri and Albion lids before it is worth selling up - then the pay cheque will be a load bigger :)
Lets be honest the market has been saturated since eveybody tom dick and harry started bringing there helmets out including one of the big company allowing another to share the same design and same maker..
We have all been waiting for the best helmet to take the mantel again maybe this is the one it certainly has gone alot further than the last Big great helmet design the Open Championship one Devon Malcolm and Darren Gough wore.
Good stuff Tom early days but it looking bloody good...
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Most of the damage I see to faces is off badly timed shots coming off the bat into the face. Given the amount of effort that has normally gone into the heave preceding this, I'd question whether the ball speed is below 70mph....?
Secondly, on a number of the pitches I play on, I as a tall bowler, who now barely nudges 60, can get a ball to leap off just short of a length and regularly see batsmen have difficulty reacting in time. I think the shortest balls would probably be safe.
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yeh spinners are more likely to bring about a sweep shot of which iv seen a few top edges into the face from!
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And that Tom is the reason i only have half a eyebrow over my right eye and the reason why i wear a lid at all times
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and he i was thinking u were trying to copy aaron lennon with his cool eyebrow shaving styleeee
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Just been sent the pics of James lid and to say it did it's job is certainly a fair statement!!!!
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FORUM EXCLUSIVE for you....
The result of taking a direct blow from a jade dernbach bouncer at 80-90 mph. 4mm grade 5 titanium did it's job and kept the ball out in combo with the helmet fit and design :)
(http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq167/tom_ayrtek/94fcc7f1.jpg)
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Wow, did a much better job for James than Kiwi Flynn's Albion titanium did for him!!
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Is that jimmy taylors? What's he wearing now?
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Looks like the Ayrtek has shown up other brands in their safety yet again!
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Same helmet....new grille hence my little drive to london town yday to drop off a couple of new ones
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if only Dave Fulton had one before he did this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFmhcGGxHU
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He now works for Sky Sports and is very interested in helmet safety ;)
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off to Notts tomorrow to see the lads up there.....