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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: tbarnfield99 on July 24, 2011, 10:48:15 AM
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Right, I have been sent my first batch of samples. Just wondering what you guys think. I have a few problems with bits and pieces which I am already working on sorting out. Any opinions however harsh they are will be gratefully received!
Wicket Keeping Pads (Front)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/WkPadfront.jpg)
Wicket Keeping Pads (Back)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/Wkback.jpg)
Batting Pads (Front)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/btgpadfront.jpg)
Batting Pads (Back)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/Btgpadback.jpg)
Batting Gloves
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/Gloves.jpg)
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Bit boring for me, nothing special about them or unique, just bog standard softs that already exist and are already being sold.
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OK, point taken. I am trying to produce something that isn't in your face like the majority of cricket equipment available. I'm not for flashy colours or gimicks, I'm looking to produce something that is probably aimed to more Traditional views.
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The chair looks familiar :D
Not a bad start first up and best of luck.
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Looks like you are having the problem that most of us predicted. As the market is so saturated with just about every kind and style of softs, it is virtually impossible to produce something that someone can briefly look at and know which brand it is. I agree that although they look ok, they look like a hundred others available today. I think the only way to really stand out these days is to virtually reinvent whatever item you choose to make.
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are the pads and gloves for sale i will buy them
please can i see how far back the top hat is set in relation to the knee roll
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Looks like you are having the problem that most of us predicted. As the market is so saturated with just about every kind and style of softs, it is virtually impossible to produce something that someone can briefly look at and know which brand it is. I agree that although they look ok, they look like a hundred others available today. I think the only way to really stand out these days is to virtually reinvent whatever item you choose to make.
Of course this is not the finished article and I have some major problems with the pad design, but I am happy with the glove and keeping pads design. Also looking at colour coding the products. It really is a marathon and not a sprint as I am producing these products in time for the start of next season with any luck. I can see that it will take months before a finished product is agreed.
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Not keen on the finger style of the gloves but if the first 2 fingers on the right hand( keep these silver) were the same design in White for the rest of the fingers I think they would look good.
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Exactly thesame as the Probats cricket gear I have
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Not keen on the finger style of the gloves but if the first 2 fingers on the right hand( keep these silver) were the same design in White for the rest of the fingers I think they would look good.
I'm not 100% with you. Could you elaborate please.
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Exactly thesame as the Probats cricket gear I have
Could you show me some photos please!
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As I suggested before Tom, jump on a plane and get down to the factory in Meerut and all will be sorted out in a few days.
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OK, point taken. I am trying to produce something that isn't in your face like the majority of cricket equipment available. I'm not for flashy colours or gimicks, I'm looking to produce something that is probably aimed to more Traditional views.
I would argue the majority of gear is traditional now. GM very traditional, GN Legend/Oblivion very traditional, Kookaburra only offer a traditional pad and almost all the small brands like Redback offer a plainer range.
I'd change the straps to white, otherwise they're okay. Nothing that screams wow to me though.
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if you can get me some of them pads with white straps and brandless i will buy some!
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As I suggested before Tom, jump on a plane and get down to the factory in Meerut and all will be sorted out in a few days.
Easier said than done. This isn't my sole occupation!
I would argue the majority of gear is traditional now. GM very traditional, GN Legend/Oblivion very traditional, Kookaburra only offer a traditional pad and almost all the small brands like Redback offer a plainer range.
I'd change the straps to white, otherwise they're okay. Nothing that screams wow to me though.
Straps are actually changing on the wicket keeping pads for sure, unsure on the batting pads yet. I'm not overly impressed with the batting pads. There will be some big improvements on that product.
I'd agree that those aforementioned brands have recently added traditional designs to their equipment. Although only GM and GN, wouldn't agree with Kookaburra as they have gone down in my estimation (not on quality). I will not be challenging those brands so this doesn't worry me, much smaller scale, but much more affordable.
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Easier said than done. This isn't my sole occupation!
Trust me Tom, if you keep having to request samples with changes you will tear your hair out and still most likely not end up with the final product you want and most likely late on delivery. Make no mistake when I say this, these factories have their own brands and pushing them world wide with great success and yours will always be well down the pecking order when it comes to urgency.
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I'm not 100% with you. Could you elaborate please.
Right hand, here goes,
Index, Peter pointer finger keep the same
Middle finger, Timmy tall, keep the same
Ruby Ring and little small the same design as the middle finger but a White bottom half instead of silver
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Trust me Tom, if you keep having to request samples with changes you will tear your hair out and still most likely not end up with the final product you want and most likely late on delivery. Make no mistake when I say this, these factories have their own brands and pushing them world wide with great success and yours will always be well down the pecking order when it comes to urgency.
couldn't agree more.
to be honest the softs are nothing but average.hope you get it right without too many samples having to be made.
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I think they look decent, i think alot of people like plain gear.
What is the pricing going to be like? i think if your able to offer the gear at good prices you will do alright with this
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also, arnt the gloves just newbery gt335's?
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Personally I love unbranded gear especially samples so if you are keen to sell the gloves and batting pads pls drop me a line.
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wait in line mr pm7
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couldn't agree more.
to be honest the softs are nothing but average.hope you get it right without too many samples having to be made.
I'm not bothered too much as he is making the 2nd set of samples free of charge. Hoping after I get the next set back I won't be too far off.
Personally I love unbranded gear especially samples so if you are keen to sell the gloves and batting pads pls drop me a line.
Still looking at the prospect of selling completely unbranded cricket equipment, so I will probably have something available in the not to distant future.
Thank you everyone for your input so far. Was hoping for some constructive negative feedback which I have received alongside plain negative throwaway comments. For the people who seem to like them I will be working on them for the next few months and hopefully improve the product whereby I see it fit to be sold.
Thanks.
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wait in line mr pm7
Don't worry there will be plenty to go around! Although I'll sort you out first Mr procricket ;)
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thank you fello lancastrian
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I'm not bothered too much as he is making the 2nd set of samples free of charge. Hoping after I get the next set back I won't be too far off.
Still looking at the prospect of selling completely unbranded cricket equipment, so I will probably have something available in the not to distant future.
Thank you everyone for your input so far. Was hoping for some constructive negative feedback which I have received alongside plain negative throwaway comments. For the people who seem to like them I will be working on them for the next few months and hopefully improve the product whereby I see it fit to be sold.
Thanks.
I hate to say this Tom but allowing yourself 2 months to get things right could be a problem down the line plus you also need to take into account the time it will take for these products to be tested and approved to PPE Certification. (only after certification can you instruct the factory to begin production)
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Always happy to wait Dave, but damm they look lovely.
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i was only kidding bud
i like them only worry is the knee and how far back it is
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i personally wouldn't buy pads that have white around the shin/knee as i'm a sweaty cricketer and these would get very yellow quickly - unless they're fully removable and washable.
Gloves look identical to a pair of vantage gloves that i bought and then sold on this forum.
however, good luck to you on your new venture
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imo i likw the traditional designs. v nice looking
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there's nothing about them that would make me want to buy them. They would have to be extremely good value for me to think about buying them - sub-40 for the pads, sub-25 for the gloves
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there's nothing about them that would make me want to buy them. They would have to be extremely good value for me to think about buying them - sub-40 for the pads, sub-25 for the gloves
I know what you are saying. The design for the glove is pretty much finally, it's just sorting the aesthetics now, but also keeping them traditional. Prices should be very competitive once I've successfully negotiated shipping! That seems to be the biggest issue at the moment.
i personally wouldn't buy pads that have white around the shin/knee as i'm a sweaty cricketer and these would get very yellow quickly - unless they're fully removable and washable.
Gloves look identical to a pair of vantage gloves that i bought and then sold on this forum.
however, good luck to you on your new venture
Thank you for your input, that is something which I could investigate. I had never really thought about that to be honest.
I hate to say this Tom but allowing yourself 2 months to get things right could be a problem down the line plus you also need to take into account the time it will take for these products to be tested and approved to PPE Certification. (only after certification can you instruct the factory to begin production)
Please don't worry Lekka, I'm big and ugly enough to look after myself ;) These issue are all outlined in my business plan alongside my gantt chart for having these ready for the start of next cricket season.
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Please don't worry Lekka, I'm big and ugly enough to look after myself These issue are all outlined in my business plan alongside my gantt chart for having these ready for the start of next cricket season.
As long as you have public liability insurance for your products then you may not lose your house. (i'm only trying to help Tom so please do not take this as a knock back or me having a go)
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I'm not bothered too much as he is making the 2nd set of samples free of charge. Hoping after I get the next set back I won't be too far off.
Still looking at the prospect of selling completely unbranded cricket equipment, so I will probably have something available in the not to distant future.
Thank you everyone for your input so far. Was hoping for some constructive negative feedback which I have received alongside plain negative throwaway comments. For the people who seem to like them I will be working on them for the next few months and hopefully improve the product whereby I see it fit to be sold.
Thanks.
Is that a little dig I detect there Tom? If you can't take criticism mate you're not going to get far with your idea. We could all sit here and say they look brilliant and everyone wants a pair, but if we did that, you'd get loads made up and when push came to shove, sell very few because we were only being nice.
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How much are you paying for your pads and gloves Tom ?
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why is everybody talking about money i want to know about materials used
are they cane they seem to be what type of pu is used Korean by any chance what is the internal shin peices made of and what about the locator my theory is what is inside that (being a softs geek and all)
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why is everybody talking about money i want to know about materials used
are they cane they seem to be what type of pu is used Korean by any chance what is the internal shin peices made of and what about the locator my theory is what is inside that (being a softs geek and all)
You know the answer to this already Dave. Just submit them to a testing house in the UK and they will for a fee issue you a full breakdown of all materials used in the submitted products.
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why is everybody talking about money i want to know about materials used
are they cane they seem to be what type of pu is used Korean by any chance what is the internal shin peices made of and what about the locator my theory is what is inside that (being a softs geek and all)
Maybe questions to ask before offering to buy?
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I quite like the pads. I think there are too many pads that try to be too different and I'm a big fan of the traditional design. Add a cheeky little graphic in there somewhere and i would entertain buying them. Maybe a bit of interest in the straps would be a good call? And I agree that the bits on the inside would be better off not white as they will get sweaty and yellow. Gloves, I'm not such a huge fan of. They remind me a lot of Newbery gt335s, and I really don't like the silver finger on the non batting hand finger (if that makes sense). If that finger was white, tehy would look a lot nicer but I'm not your intended target market as I don't like (and wouldn't buy) sausage style glove (just my opinion as I know a lot of people are). Do you have a logo yet?
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Maybe questions to ask before offering to buy?
you no me jon i will get them and see as per usual mate.
hense why i have some rather dashing gn legends for sale
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What the hell I thought you liked the legend pads?
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Is that a little dig I detect there Tom? If you can't take criticism mate you're not going to get far with your idea. We could all sit here and say they look brilliant and everyone wants a pair, but if we did that, you'd get loads made up and when push came to shove, sell very few because we were only being nice.
No, not at all. I just feel that in today's society it's all too easy to criticise. Of course I want truthful answers, but constructive ones. No point in saying "this is crap", why not "this is crap because" or "I would prefer" etc etc.
I've taken plenty of criticism before and I'm more then ready to take it!!! You won't be the first to criticise and definitely won't be the last!!!
Thanks for your opinions though, as they really are considered.
How much are you paying for your pads and gloves Tom ?
Not something I'm willing to talk about to be honest. I'm sure you'll have a fair idea, being in the industry and all.
I quite like the pads. I think there are too many pads that try to be too different and I'm a big fan of the traditional design. Add a cheeky little graphic in there somewhere and i would entertain buying them. Maybe a bit of interest in the straps would be a good call? And I agree that the bits on the inside would be better off not white as they will get sweaty and yellow. Gloves, I'm not such a huge fan of. They remind me a lot of Newbery gt335s, and I really don't like the silver finger on the non batting hand finger (if that makes sense). If that finger was white, tehy would look a lot nicer but I'm not your intended target market as I don't like (and wouldn't buy) sausage style glove (just my opinion as I know a lot of people are). Do you have a logo yet?
Thanks for that mate. Yes a logo is in mind, not 100% sure how we are going to market our equipment yet. Now that a few people have mentioned it the gloves do seem to look like the GT335's. I can assure you that it is not intentional. This is far from the finished colour scheme.
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What the hell I thought you liked the legend pads?
Don't you know rule number 1?
Whatever piece of gear Dave has bought most recently is the best bat/gloves/pads in the world (and by god we get to hear about it), but this can only be the case for roughly a month before they are replaced by the next thing.
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Thanks for that mate. Yes a logo is in mind, not 100% sure how we are going to market our equipment yet. Now that a few people have mentioned it the gloves do seem to look like the GT335's. I can assure you that it is not intentional. This is far from the finished colour scheme.
I'm sure it isn't mate, the resemblance is uncanny though lol. I reckon if you made the index fingers on both gloves the same width, with the splits etc, imo they would look much better. I think they look a bit odd being a little bit thinner at the bottom if leaving silver. Otherwise, if they were white they would look much better. Make that happen and they're growing on me every time I see them lol.
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Not something I'm willing to talk about to be honest. I'm sure you'll have a fair idea, being in the industry and all.
If you're paying more than US$20 for (the best pads) and $16 for (the best gloves ) then save your money.
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Don't you know rule number 1?
Whatever piece of gear Dave has bought most recently is the best bat/gloves/pads in the world (and by god we get to hear about it), but this can only be the case for roughly a month before they are replaced by the next thing.
bar my 2 legendary bats Jon
no i have enjoyed the legends pads but the wind has changed...
Were did i say i did not like them mate i love them just fancy a change as i do...
Only 3 bit of kit i never change
my match bat,, my protection and mainly my helmet
I also suspect the legend pads are up there in the worlds best pads if there is such a thing...
And come on my bats well when i use them will never be the best in the world
each to there own Jon
I have grown,, bar ran you...
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Ill buy a pair of pads & gloves when they're for sale..
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I'll be honest with you, I see nothing here that makes me want to rush out and buy a pair. Nothing appears to be new and I don't see evidence of new materials that will provide better protection.
I guess I don't really understand what you are offering other than yet more softs? Do you have a USP or are you yet another brand in a busy market place with no real differentiator?
Sorry to be harsh, but unless you were really doing something new, this feels more like a vanity business than a real cash generator.
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if you do keeping gloves, white back, and a pink face, that looks class.
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if you do keeping gloves, white back, and a pink face, that looks class.
I agree mate.Although you are trying to make the softs traditional,
i would suggest a dual color scheme such as black/gold,black pink and anything to go with black..
without a dominant color or design,it would be hard to get any success out of sales in my opinion unless the materials are unique and offers world class protection and comfort
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My tuppence worth. I see plenty of really small brands that make the owners a good few quid just by selling locally in your own and surrounding leagues, I really don't think you've got to be radical with the designs if you just want to make a bit extra cash on the side.
Designs wise I don't think you'd go far wrong to re-hash the c.2009 Newbery Grizzly range, mostly white with a flash of pastel colour. As long as the pricing is right i'm sure you'll be able shift a fair few. Good luck fella :)
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Could you show me some photos please!
http://www.probatscricket.com/elite.html
this is the website. the gear isnt too bad. the coloured trim on the outside of the pad wears off pretty quickly so looks a little shabby. ive seen a few other smaller brands ( cant remember which brands but see them in games) using pretty much the same design. seems to be a favourite. think the old SPS were of a similar design aswell
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[url]http://www.probatscricket.com/elite.html[/url]
this is the website. the gear isnt too bad. the coloured trim on the outside of the pad wears off pretty quickly so looks a little shabby. ive seen a few other smaller brands ( cant remember which brands but see them in games) using pretty much the same design. seems to be a favourite. think the old SPS were of a similar design aswell
Ah I see. Just copies of Robinson Sports gear (can be found at http://www.quantumcricket.com/)
My tuppence worth. I see plenty of really small brands that make the owners a good few quid just by selling locally in your own and surrounding leagues, I really don't think you've got to be radical with the designs if you just want to make a bit extra cash on the side.
Designs wise I don't think you'd go far wrong to re-hash the c.2009 Newbery Grizzly range, mostly white with a flash of pastel colour. As long as the pricing is right i'm sure you'll be able shift a fair few. Good luck fella :)
Thank you. What you've described is pretty much what I am aiming to do, as well as supply nationwide via the internet. Thanks for your input, I do like the Grizzly range and it was actually something we looked at.
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As they say in Essex 'Reem' very nice and clean cut stuff.
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The soft goods manufacturers will offer u gloves/pads that they have in their existing range and they are familiar with making as its a time consuming process to sample something new and therefore they want to see a volume order off the back of the hard work they put into sampling the products.
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The soft goods manufacturers will offer u gloves/pads that they have in their existing range and they are familiar with making as its a time consuming process to sample something new and therefore they want to see a volume order off the back of the hard work they put into sampling the products.
Pretty sure that's what they have done with the pads as they are not that similar to what I requested. He is going back to the drawing board in the next couple of days. So hopefully I will have something new to show later on.
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They look like good quality softs mate. Liking the design front on all of them.
I'd be interested to know about pricings on them when they are completely finished though, do keep me in the loop :)
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Hi Tom
I like what you are creating. However to improve the initial designs- mostly for aesthetics only (like the sausage gloves+ traditional cane pads) here's where I would tinker things:
1. I think there's too much silver on the gloves and the pads. SS over kill the silver on the gloves and you've got even more on! Also, too many brands use silver.
2. replace the silver stripe on the pads with just plain white. Kook look awful with their splashes of colour + piping these days and every one likes subtlety.
3. How about mimicking M+H by putting a splash of tan on the gloves, maybe just the bottom 2 fingers or the wrist bands. Also tan coloured straps on the pads would look awesome.
4. Another colour that might look pretty good and hasn't been tried yet is gun metal or a dark bronze. But make it like a matt gun metal- say round the bottom 2 fingers like the way the GN legend gloves use black.
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Hi Tom
I like what you are creating. However to improve the initial designs- mostly for aesthetics only (like the sausage gloves+ traditional cane pads) here's where I would tinker things:
1. I think there's too much silver on the gloves and the pads. SS over kill the silver on the gloves and you've got even more on! Also, too many brands use silver.
2. replace the silver stripe on the pads with just plain white. Kook look awful with their splashes of colour + piping these days and every one likes subtlety.
3. How about mimicking M+H by putting a splash of tan on the gloves, maybe just the bottom 2 fingers or the wrist bands. Also tan coloured straps on the pads would look awesome.
4. Another colour that might look pretty good and hasn't been tried yet is gun metal or a dark bronze. But make it like a matt gun metal- say round the bottom 2 fingers like the way the GN legend gloves use black.
Silver is already on it's way out on both the gloves and the pads. (Never asked for it on the pads in the first case!)
No to tan I'm afraid. Trying to keep things cheap and I think using tan and different materials will result in an increase for the end user.
Black might be something that has already been discussed with my mystery man ;)
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Silver is already on it's way out on both the gloves and the pads. (Never asked for it on the pads in the first case!)
No to tan I'm afraid. Trying to keep things cheap and I think using tan and different materials will result in an increase for the end user.
Black might be something that has already been discussed with my mystery man ;)
Why would using tan and other materials have to result in a price increase to the customer ?
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Increased price in materials = supplier charging me more = customer paying more
I'm pretty sure you could have worked that out all on your own!
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Increased price in materials = supplier charging me more = customer paying more
I'm pretty sure you could have worked that out all on your own!
Increased price in materials the price increase in materials used is alot cheaper than you may think as you are replacing existing materials so you are only paying a balance payment. For example Pittards Palms, brands charge more saying due to cost but in real terms the cost difference between sheep/calf leather palms and Pittards should only be US$1.50 per glove.
supplier charging me more the suppliers labour charge has not changed just because you upgrade or downgrade on materials.
customer paying more You have already stated you want to be competitive so why not take a hit on a couple of bucks :D
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Thanks for your advice but I think I will be fine.
supplier charging me more the suppliers labour charge has not changed just because you upgrade or downgrade on materials.
Of course my supplier will charge me more if the price of materials increase, it has nothing to do with labour.
Frankly I've had enough of your negativity towards my venture. I am well aware of the potential gains and losses, and don't need lecturing on them.
If you put as much time and effort criticising other peoples work in your own business then maybe you would be a little more successful.
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Thanks for your advice but I think I will be fine.
Of course my supplier will charge me more if the price of materials increase, it has nothing to do with labour.
Frankly I've had enough of your negativity towards my venture. I am well aware of the potential gains and losses, and don't need lecturing on them.
If you put as much time and effort criticising other peoples work in your own business then maybe you would be a little more successful.
Sorry for trying to be of assistance.
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Sorry for trying to be of assistance.
To be fair mate, he does only seem to be trying to help. He does after all know what he's talking about (this time lol) ;)
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It's just the way you come across, especially over this format. It is hard to determine any internation or sarcasm in your voice as it's written. If you would like to help then please do so, if you are here to give me a lecture then I really don't need it.
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Got to say I like the pads, I personally like the plain style of them. Would the pads be available in youth sizes in the same style?
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Well done on getting your first batch of samples! I think this a very good start, with some decent quality stuff. I'm sure the end product will look great. It has taken a lot of effort already to get this far, many guys on this forum have probably thought about having their own pad and glove designs but very few have actually gone out there and done it. I have a lot of respect for people who have taken that step to realize their dream, irrespective of what others might say. I would like to wish you the best of luck in your venture and i'm sure all your efforts will pay off eventually!
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Right second draft of samples, which are nearly there, need a little tinkering with, but I hope you think that they have improved from the first. Let me know what you think!
May have a few pairs to sell around September / October.
Gloves
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3961600x1200.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3951600x1200.jpg)
Batting Pads
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3941600x1200.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3931600x1200.jpg)
Wicket Keeping Pads
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3921600x1200.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/samsung3911600x1200.jpg)
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I like the look of the gloves, kind of like the blade runners we had over here 2 seasons ago which were very nice.
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Samples look ok, but not a fan of sausage gloves but that's just me.
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Samples look ok, but not a fan of sausage gloves but that's just me.
That's fair enough. Not looking to bring a split out straight away. Looking at just 1 item at a time, although there will be plans to bring an alternative out.
I like the look of the gloves, kind of like the blade runners we had over here 2 seasons ago which were very nice.
Thanks. The gloves are my personal favourite at the moment.
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looking good,
tom i have pm'd you!
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Have got back to you.
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Will you have your companys logo on the items?
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Will you have your companys logo on the items?
Nope probably just have our website on them (somewhere on the inside). We are trying to have them as minimal as possible.
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Will you actually receive the samples or will they stay in India?
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Will you actually receive the samples or will they stay in India?
Will be on their way as of Monday next week with any luck.
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Really like the look of the gloves, pads still need a little tweak but would be very interested in a pair when they are finished - provided the price is right of course!
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Yeah I am happy with the gloves and they will stay as they are, still not 100% on the pads, I agree that there seems to be something missing, can't quite put my finger on it.
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Yeah I am happy with the gloves and they will stay as they are, still not 100% on the pads, I agree that there seems to be something missing, can't quite put my finger on it.
Tom, the pads remind me very much of the generic white pads that used to be in the school kitbag. It may be as simple as adding coloured piping to the trim to remove the generic look, or maybe adjusting the style of the extension on the side.
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Thanks for the ideas.
Right, I'll throw this one in the mix. Looking to create a brand name, in keeping with our traditional views with a modern twist. Looking for a company name and / or logo ideas. Nothing is too stupid! If anyone comes up with an idea that I like and end up using in some form, then I will give you a free set of pads and gloves.
Can't say fairer than that, right, get the thinking caps on!
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Thanks for the ideas.
Right, I'll throw this one in the mix. Looking to create a brand name, in keeping with our traditional views with a modern twist. Looking for a company name and / or logo ideas. Nothing is too stupid! If anyone comes up with an idea that I like and end up using in some form, then I will give you a free set of pads and gloves.
Can't say fairer than that, right, get the thinking caps on!
Barnfield Cricket 8)
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Thanks for the ideas.
Right, I'll throw this one in the mix. Looking to create a brand name, in keeping with our traditional views with a modern twist. Looking for a company name and / or logo ideas. Nothing is too stupid! If anyone comes up with an idea that I like and end up using in some form, then I will give you a free set of pads and gloves.
Can't say fairer than that, right, get the thinking caps on!
NITS
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NITS
(RDX)
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NITS
come on then Lekka, what does that stand for?
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come on then Lekka, what does that stand for?
Nothing is too stupid I do believe.
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We went through a similar process designing our logo and it took months to get right. We wiki'd our local area to discover any historical significance to mix old and new. We also got a local designer to mock up our logo:-
www.headingleycc.co.uk
Don't really have a suggestion but some info about the area would be handy, I think alot of manufacturers trade on the local aspect.
It also needs to look good on a bat/glove/pad I guess.
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Nothing is too stupid I do believe.
Lekka. I didn't expect anything more from you to be honest.
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Lekka. I didn't expect anything more from you to be honest.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=12904.msg208221#msg208221
You really cannot have it both ways Tom.
You have gone from no brand name to requesting a brand name in a matter of hours.
I thought back on page one you (and friends) had all your plan sorted out ?
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James - why don't you get off his back. We don't all have 20 years in the cricket industry to fall back on. Tom is new to this by all accounts. Did you never once change your mind when you set out for world domination back in the late 80's when Lekka began?
He's also a nice chap and is looking for feedback from people who are trying to be constructive and give honest opinions. You are being your usual antagonistic self, and it's not needed. If you spent more time focussing on your attitude towards potential customers and the way you conduct yourself on a public forum, then your reputation wouldn't be as piss poor as it is.
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Red Rose Cricket.
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T.B.C (Tom Barnfield Cricket) ??? slight play on words in the fact that its new to the market
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'The Cricket Barn' - (do you see what I did there?)
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Thanks for the effort gents. Some decent concepts coming along. Once again Lekka thanks for your input.
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Castle Cricket with a logo based on Lancaster Castle
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Castle Cricket with a logo based on Lancaster Castle
Like it. Best so far.
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Castle Cricket
LA Cricket
L15 Cricket
TBC (Tom Barnfield Cricket)
TLB Cricket
TLB Sports
Five Star Cricket
Northern Star Cricket
Northern Star Sports
Star Cricket
T2 Cricket
Projeckt:B Cricket
All the ideas so far...
...anything better...or any favourites amongst those?
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Why not "Barnsey" and "B" as your premier logo ?
(Barnsey comes across as a friendly and warm name).
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Barnstormer cricket
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Projeckt:B is good.
Also, will you be doing and split finger gloves?
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Projeckt:B is good.
Also, will you be doing and split finger gloves?
Just a little concious that it doesn't tie in with us supplying quite reserved equipment (in terms of design).
Split finger gloves are on the menu. Currently being developed.
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Just a little concious that it doesn't tie in with us supplying quite reserved equipment (in terms of design).
Split finger gloves are on the menu. Currently being developed.
Projeckt B, whilst obviously relating to your name, may prompt many to ask the question - what happened to Projeckt A? Could be seen as being like a Plan B etc...
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Projeckt: B sounds like a dub step act
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Regal Cricket if it does not exist.
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Guardian cricket
Immortal cricket
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my ideas..
Barney Army
Barmy Army
Barnster
Barn-Star Cricket
BB Sports (Barnfield Battler) lol
Mission Barnfield
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Like the look of the 2nd set of samples a lot. They from the same factory as SS? Little bits of black on the gloves makes them look like a premium product. Def worth going for pittards IMO.
How about Lodge Quarry Sports for your brand name? With models such as the One Pint LE, the Wizard, the Sandra Special Edition?
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Stellar Cricket, go for Pittards!
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Duchy Cricket
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I like red rose cricket . . way more than any of the other ideas
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Like the look of the 2nd set of samples a lot. They from the same factory as SS? Little bits of black on the gloves makes them look like a premium product. Def worth going for pittards IMO.
How about Lodge Quarry Sports for your brand name? With models such as the One Pint LE, the Wizard, the Sandra Special Edition?
I'll put you down for some softs BJH. You can test them for me!
Pittards would be great but there is a big price increase on them. Want to sell them for around £25 really and that won't be possible with pittards. Will have to investigate further.
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Really struggling to find a name at the moment.
Red rose cricket is quite nice, I like the whole concept of Castle Cricket, and have drawn a few logos up, which would look very nice.
I'm looking to use the colour scheme of black, white and possibly a hint of silver.
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Combine the 2?
Castle Cricket with a Red Rose Emblem?
Somthing like these 2 logos combined:
(http://www.dorabee.com/images/logoCastle.gif)
(http://www.lancashirevillages.com/images/lrr.gif)
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Paragon Cricket - although i do like Castle Cricket
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Combine the 2?
Castle Cricket with a Red Rose Emblem?
Somthing like these 2 logos combined:
That's very very similar to something I've already done!
I really like the concept of CC but not 100% sure if it's good enough as an identity.
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especially as no batsman likes being castled...
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hahaha true that!
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Fortress cricket?
Hard to breach the defences, safe, strong blah blah blah
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I was going to suggest naming the brand after Dravid - the Wall - then I realised that people would start abusing the batsman for walking out to bat named after a really camp saturday evening TV show...
I like "Fortress Cricket" as a brand name a lot.
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Slight tweak...
4tress Cricket
Or...4Tres, and have Banger as your poster-boy...
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I was going to suggest naming the brand after Dravid - the Wall - then I realised that people would start abusing the batsman for walking out to bat named after a really camp saturday evening TV show...
I like "Fortress Cricket" as a brand name a lot.
I can imagine it...
BRING ON THE WALL!!
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Here's a basic design of one of the ideas:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/QuickIdea.jpg)
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oooooooooooooooooh looks a bit Instinct to me ;)
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I can see where you're coming from. But a mate who has no idea about cricket did it for me!!!
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I can see where you're coming from. But a mate who has no idea about cricket did it for me!!!
Who's that, Lekka?
Wheeeeyyyyyyyy (J/k)
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I'm only joshing mate, it's a good start. I like the 5 stars on the back, although it does remind me of the recycling icon you get on most household items
Who's that, Lekka?
Wheeeeyyyyyyyy (J/k)
**Looks for like button**
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Star)
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5* on the edge and back looks decent, not sure about the face though
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He said he got the idea for the 5 star on the back of the bat from Call of Duty 4 hahaha!
I think the front could look decent, if I take his design and further it on my software.
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He said he got the idea for the 5 star on the back of the bat from Call of Duty 4 hahaha!
I think the front could look decent, if I take his design and further it on my software.
Knew I recognised it from somewhere! Yes I'm sure it could scrub up well with a bit of effort
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Thanks for all the effort with coming up with names for my brand. Unfortunately no-one was successful as I chose 'TLB Cricket'. Something short, snappy, and ultimately quite personal. Next on the agenda is to design the bat stickers. Now the prize is again the same, a free pair of men's batting pads and gloves. I have attached a logo which I think I will be using. I do hope you like, and that you can see the reference to TLB:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/TLBcricketLOGO2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/TLBcricketLOGO.jpg)
Logo still needs work to it, but the main concept is there.
Good Luck
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Logo kind of reminds me of the female symbol you see on toilet doors!
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You may want to register the domain name first Tom.
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You may want to register the domain name first Tom.
not sure what domain will be used as of yet. these are just first drafts / ideas.
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Logo kind of reminds me of the female symbol you see on toilet doors!
not the look I was aiming for! haha
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First go:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/Stickers1.jpg)
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reminds me of Charlie French with that logo!!!!!
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I love that logo!
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not dissimilar to the charlie french one though in terms of design but like the use of integrating the TB together :D
NB should have read the earlier comment! lol
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I like how cleverly tbarnfield avoided giving away gloves and pads by changing the idea of T.B.C to TLB Cricket.. Well done...haha
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don't you think this us all bit dull, the name, the logo and how you want the bat to look?
I appreciate you are going for a traditional look, but that still gives you way more scope than this.
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Castle Cricket
LA Cricket
L15 Cricket
TBC (Tom Barnfield Cricket)
TLB Cricket
TLB Sports
Five Star Cricket
Northern Star Cricket
Northern Star Sports
Star Cricket
T2 Cricket
Projeckt:B Cricket
All the ideas so far...
...anything better...or any favourites amongst those?
TLB Cricket was one of my own ideas from the start!
I'll give away pads and gloves to anyone who designs a set of stickers that I use. Even if I only use a part of your design! I'll stick to my word.
Thanks for the feedback, both good and bad. Still at the early stages, but hope you enjoy being part of my process!!
Still coming up with basic designs by myself at the moment for the stickers, hoping to finally decide on a design some point next week. Anyone has any ideas then go ahead!
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don't you think this us all bit dull, the name, the logo and how you want the bat to look?
I appreciate you are going for a traditional look, but that still gives you way more scope than this.
I understand what you are saying. These are very basic at the moment. A colour code of black, white and silver will look elegant in my eyes. Sometimes the best things are simple. I personally don't want to create something flashy and full of garish colours like Kookaburra and Puma.
All input is gratefully received though, and maybe I need to find a balance of the two.
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think Leo went down the same route with his Predator stickers that he did a while back.....the colour scheme will only work if your looking to go for the top end printing materials when having them done.
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Sorry for being a bit of a stick in the mud here and I know this isn't all about someone getting a free set of gloves and pads but if you are going to put that on offer you really should take yourself out of the equation, which is hard considering it is going to be your brand, everyones ideas could lead in part to your ideas subconsciously and someone could feel like they got duped if they think there idea had anything to do with the end result... Just something to think about.
Bring on TLB Cricket I say
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If I were you now you've got the name, come off the forum. Work with a graphic designer and the sticker manufacturer, design the stickers, make a couple of mockups and then share them for opinion.
There's a lot more you could be doing with those stickers, which a good graphic designer will do.
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think Leo went down the same route with his Predator stickers that he did a while back.....the colour scheme will only work if your looking to go for the top end printing materials when having them done.
Yes, definitely agree with that. I think the best stickers on the market today are the BlackCatCricket ones. Just think they look fantastic, and are obviously great quality. I'm sure these come at cost though. Try and find the balance of cost and quality in order to keep the final product affordable.
If I were you now you've got the name, come off the forum. Work with a graphic designer and the sticker manufacturer, design the stickers, make a couple of mockups and then share them for opinion.
There's a lot more you could be doing with those stickers, which a good graphic designer will do.
Been on with this for the past week or so. Just seeing if anyone had any fresh ideas. We should hopefully have about 5 examples to choose from next week.
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Don't skimp on stickers. They're the difference between a premium product and a cheap one. It's worth paying the extra £5 for quality.
Also make sure you taking into account profiles when designing stickers. For example, how well woudl that toe sticker on the back of the bat going to stick if you're using top quality chrome stickers and a bat which has a spine going all the way down to the toe.
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Yes, pretty sure that toe sticker won't be used anyway, but thanks for all the help, very much appreciated.
Hopefully I will have something of decent enough quality to show for my efforts in the not too distant future!
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i have a few sticker designs, how do i post them though?
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i have a few sticker designs, how do i post them though?
([url]http://custombats.co.uk/Users/jacquessharam/Desktop/Picture[/url] 29.png)
([url]http://custombats.co.uk/Users/jacquessharam/Desktop/Picture[/url] 17.png)
([url]http://custombats.co.uk/Users/jacquessharam/Desktop/Picture[/url] 22.png)
Not like that lol :p
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cheers, i tried.... obviously
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The URL's don't go anywhere? The pictures must be uploaded to photobucket or flickr or similair first
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cheers, i tried.... obviously
e-mail them to me and I'll put them up for you - barnfieldtom@gmail.com
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One of the various samples of cricket bat which we have taken in the last couple of weeks. Just want to see what people's views are on these. Obviously it is an Asian profiled bat.
Can tell you that the edges are 37mm at the biggest point, also has 11 straight grains, with a touch of heartwood on the RH's outside edge.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/IMG_0964.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/IMG_0963.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/IMG_0962.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/TBarnfield/IMG_0961.jpg)
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looks good, only thing im not keen on is the bow. this its too much.
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That bow does look quite extreme!
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looks nice!
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Does look nice but I tend to agree about the bow...Extreme
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Nice looking cleft, not so keen on the shape though, but much concaving for my taste.
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I like the crazy bow, personally, but would like to see slightly smaller edges traded for less concaving and a bigger spine height (and a slightly higher middle) - plus as a really personal preference - a thicker, more oval handle!
other than that it looks great.
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yeah im a think oval man myself
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Nice looking cleft, not so keen on the shape though, but much concaving for my taste.
Yeah, I agree with that as well to be fair. Not to my personally tastes. Something similar but with less concaving? The willow is undoubtedly top notch.
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Smaller edges, bigger spine and less concaving (though still a little, for my ideal bat).
One of the main things if your going Asian made is probably to ensure the handles are decent, thats the main problem most people seem to have with them.
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This sample was only provided to see the quality of the willow. My bat design should hopefully be in construction as we speak, and will have something to show later this week. I am very excited about the quality of the wood though, and might have to take this bat for knock!
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It's been interesting following this thread, and seeing the emergence of Tom's brand.
However, with a brand name and logo now established, and a website now up a running I'm afraid we have to close this thread due to advertising.
Good luck with it Tom, and if you would like to consider forum sponsorship, please let us know.