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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: langer17 on August 04, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
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Strauss had no idea - http://www.youtube.com/user/cmccoy4#p/u/6/H6KWUqZ8vlc
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and in response:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2UnMxR3IM
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langer, 2005?? couldn't you dig one up a bit more recent? :D
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Why certainly, ahah ;) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRGy_EQqAA
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3-1
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best bit i like about the siddle video is that one of the videos to the right hand side is called mitchell johnson bowling filth. its only 3.16 long tho? do you think its 3 mins of one episode of filth or a collection of the best filth he has bowled?
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Why certainly, ahah ;) - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRGy_EQqAA[/url]
HAHAHA love a bit of banter :D
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An England player hasn't got an Ashes hatrick since last century, ahaha :D
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best bit i like about the siddle video is that one of the videos to the right hand side is called mitchell johnson bowling filth. its only 3.16 long tho? do you think its 3 mins of one episode of filth or a collection of the best filth he has bowled?
Reckon it's probably soundtracked by the Barmy army....
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HAHAHA love a bit of banter :D
Me too :D
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Always good to see a future Aussie Captain and top order batsman being got out by our frontline bowlers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDA_vCl2yGc&feature=related
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Always good to see a future Aussie Captain and top order batsman being got out by our frontline bowlers...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDA_vCl2yGc&feature=related[/url]
That's how it works, crap always gets wickets.
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obviously "too good" haha
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That's how it works, crap always gets wickets.
too right, had a few of them in my time :D
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That's how it works, crap always gets wickets.
does that include siddle?
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does that include siddle?
Lol, I don't really like Siddle, but if he is crap then the England bowlers must be completly sh#t seeing as he was the only one to get a hatrick. Either that or the batsmen are terrible. Look at Cook's scores against India so far, shows that average players can only be lucky for so long, ;)
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Johnson set himself up here the idiot, but Anderson must be good to bowl a tail ender, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtxnfqDJUWg&feature=related
Off to bed, look forward to responses :D
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the only good thing the aussies have from an ashes series is a siddle hatrick!
quite happy with that!
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You can say all you like about the England team, but we know how to get the job done, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfSoHbh26w&feature=related Just when you Ausies though you had the game won we took it away, you aussies simply don't have the guts in those tough situations.
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the only good thing the aussies have from an ashes series is a siddle hatrick!
quite happy with that!
Don't forget Hussey with the bat!
You can say all you like about the England team, but we know how to get the job done, for example: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfSoHbh26w&feature=related[/url] Just when you Ausies though you had the game won we took it away, you aussies simply don't have the guts in those tough situations.
Sure you want to use that example? What was the result in the next series, oh 5-0 job done! Also, pretty sure a 59 run partnership from numbers 10 and 11 is a massive effort considering one of them was Kasprowicz . Terrible by top order, but look at the last 3 scores from 9, 10 ,11 - 42, 43 and 20. Pretty sure it was the other way around and England thought they had it in the bag with Aus 8-175, but Australia almost snatched vitories from the jaws of defeat, dunno what you're on about but that looks like guts to me. England must have been shi**ing themselves, lol.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/215010.html.
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Don't forget Hussey with the bat!
Sure you want to use that example? What was the result in the next series, oh 5-0 job done! Also, pretty sure a 59 run partnership from numbers 10 and 11 is a massive effort considering one of them was Kasprowicz . Terrible by top order, but look at the last 3 scores from 9, 10 ,11 - 42, 43 and 20. Pretty sure it was the other way around and England thought they had it in the bag with Aus 8-175, but Australia almost snatched vitories from the jaws of defeat, dunno what you're on about but that looks like guts to me. England must have been shi**ing themselves, lol.
[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/215010.html.[/url]
You were chasing 282 and you were 47-0, to get into the situation you did from there is shocking. Yes your tail enders did well and you had us down and out but yet again you simply couldn't deal with the pressure and lost it on the finishing line.
Okay I'll accept you thrashed us and deserved that 5-0 victory, but that is your only ashes victory in your last 4 attempts, so don't feel to proud about yourself :D
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You were chasing 282 and you were 47-0, to get into the situation you did from there is shocking. Yes your tail enders did well and you had us down and out but yet again you simply couldn't deal with the pressure and lost it on the finishing line.
Okay I'll accept you thrashed us and deserved that 5-0 victory, but that is your only ashes victory in your last 4 attempts, so don't feel to proud about yourself :D
Erm, and those are our first three in umpteen attempts since 1986, so perhaps smugness shouldn't rest on our shoulders too heavily either...
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Always good to see a future Aussie Captain and top order batsman being got out by our frontline bowlers...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDA_vCl2yGc&feature=related[/url]
I got out in the exact way at the weekend!!
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Erm, and those are our first three in umpteen attempts since 1986, so perhaps smugness shouldn't rest on our shoulders too heavily either...
I'm thinking about the present, I'm think about the Squads we have now and how those players have done in previous Ashes series. How many players do we have who played in the 1990 Ashes series? None. So therefore there is no point talking about how they did in the past as that was a different era with different players.
Most of the players in both teams either started playing international cricket in 2005 or later, so I would class that as the "modern era" and in this time we have dominated them. Yes they dominated us in the past, but at the present time we have put them in their place and 'til they can beat us again on our home turf I will continue to boast.
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I'm thinking about the present, I'm think about the Squads we have now and how those players have done in previous Ashes series. How many players do we have who played in the 1990 Ashes series? None. So therefore there is no point talking about how they did in the past as that was a different era with different players.
Most of the players in both teams either started playing international cricket in 2005 or later, so I would class that as the "modern era" and in this time we have dominated them. Yes they dominated us in the past, but at the present time we have put them in their place and 'til they can beat us again on our home turf I will continue to boast.
South Africa, oops, I mean England ;) are probably going to to get the number 1 ranking during the series against India, but Australia has some great talent coming through, so it should be interesting over the next couple of years.
The selectors over here must have been on something as some of their selections were just terrible, they should have been sacked already, but it will happen very soon.
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Don't start playing the Saffer card...the only decent batting prospect is a Pakistani born player!
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Don't start playing the Saffer card...the only decent batting prospect is a Pakistani born player!
It was a genuine mistake ;).
I will play it, Trott and Pietersen played U19 SA. You've also got Kieswetter who may be your next keeper who also played SA U19's. England have 8 players who are from South Africa on the contract list, so there is a theme there.
I accept Strauss and Prior as they moved over when they were 6 and 11 respectively. Same with Khawaja, can't count Symonds either as he move to Aus when he was 2 months. We have heaps of good young players, but the selectors are retarded and pick crap players over them.
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This has been done to death though.
Stop being bitter and accept that you are now (No Swearing Please), just as the West Indies have been since their fall from grace. It doesn't last forever! You had one of the best sides in the world, you were unlucky they all retired at the same time, but where was the next Warne, McGrath, Gilly etc?
As a country we have huge depth in ability. Our counties are full of players that are bloody class.
I don't think you are going to win this one skippy ;)
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8? Can you name them all?
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8? Can you name them all?
don't encourage him! :)
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It was a genuine mistake ;).
I will play it, Trott and Pietersen played U19 SA. You've also got Kieswetter who may be your next keeper who also played SA U19's. England have 8 players who are from South Africa on the contract list, so there is a theme there.
I accept Strauss and Prior as they moved over when they were 6 and 11 respectively. Same with Khawaja, can't count Symonds either as he move to Aus when he was 2 months. We have heaps of good young players, but the selectors are retarded and pick crap players over them.
Well, 8? Strauss (raised as a kid in England), Prior (same), KP (British parentage), Trott (British parentage), aaand.... *tumbleweed* nope, that's it. Kieswetter had an incremental contract, he may still have one. I'm not sure he's international quality anyway, so for me that's irrelevant. Oh, and for the record, apart from Chris Lynn, Shaun Marsh and Usman Khawaja, your domestic batting is VERY short on quality. And the bowling is... well, the seam bowling is okay, but the spin bowling is equally dire!
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This has been done to death though.
Stop being bitter and accept that you are now (No Swearing Please), just as the West Indies have been since their fall from grace. It doesn't last forever! You had one of the best sides in the world, you were unlucky they all retired at the same time, but where was the next Warne, McGrath, Gilly etc?
As a country we have huge depth in ability. Our counties are full of players that are bloody class.
I don't think you are going to win this one skippy ;)
If you are saying that Australia are going to be like the Windies, I laugh.
Those days are over, they were once in a lifetime players. Test cricket will much more closely contested now as players are very even accross the board. Name me England's Warne, McGrath and Gilly, you can't as that era is gone.
I laugh when I hear this, how can you be full of class, but always pick players from another counrty? It's not like with these players you are absolutely killing it, they are helping yes, but imagine if they weren't there. James Taylor is very good, same with Dernbach but he was borb inb SA although he does now have English citizenship. Don't know of many others.
Not a matter of winning, just giving my opinion.
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Well, 8? Strauss (raised as a kid in England), Prior (same), KP (British parentage), Trott (British parentage), aaand.... *tumbleweed* nope, that's it. Kieswetter had an incremental contract, he may still have one. I'm not sure he's international quality anyway, so for me that's irrelevant. Oh, and for the record, apart from Chris Lynn, Shaun Marsh and Usman Khawaja, your domestic batting is VERY short on quality. And the bowling is... well, the seam bowling is okay, but the spin bowling is equally dire!
Andrew Strauss, Matt Prior, Kevin Pietersen, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter, Jade Dernbach and Michael Lumb are all SA born, so 7 not 8.
Of that, Pietersen, Trott and Kieswetter have all played SA 19's/Senior cricket over in SA.
Don't forget Nic Madinson from NSW.
Other than Taylor, who has England got?
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Who has England got
Taylor, Hamilton Brown, Roy, Davies, Maynard, Hidrith, Rashid, Borthwick (and loads of others all who would be in this current aussie team) oh and Bopara sort of...
(sorry for the Surrey bias, but these are all seriously talented players...)
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Andrew Strauss, Matt Prior, Kevin Pietersen, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter, Jade Dernbach and Michael Lumb are all SA born, so 7 not 8.
Of that, Pietersen, Trott and Kieswetter have all played SA 19's/Senior cricket over in SA.
Don't forget Nic Madinson from NSW.
Other than Taylor, who has England got?
Lumb isn't contracted. Kieswetter isn't contracted (I'm certain he's not centrally contracted, I'm 90% sure he's not got an incremental contract, or whatever they call it). So those 2 can be discounted already.
Other than Taylor? Jonny Bairstow, Andre Gale, Luke Wells, James Hildreth, Alex Hales, Moeen Ali, Samit Patel, Adam Lyth, James Vince, Rory Hamilton-Brown, Tom Maynard, Jos Buttler, to name a few (batsmen of course). If we're on about bowling, I could be here even longer... Woakes Onions Briggs Rashid Borthwick Fletcher Harris Finn and I've not even started! And these are guys who have been impressing on the county circuit for a few years now!
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Jonny Bairstow, Adam Lythe, Danny Briggs, Jamie Vince, Carberry (love that bloke), Onions.
Count yourself lucky Tresco can't tour - he would demolish you
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haha Tumo - we share the same quality taste in players :)
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Who has England got
Taylor, Hamilton Brown, Roy, Davies, Maynard, Hidrith, Rashid, Borthwick (and loads of others all who would be in this current aussie team) oh and Bopara sort of...
(sorry for the Surrey bias, but these are all seriously talented players...)
Davies is a dudd, same with Bopara. Taylor and Hamiton Brown, but don't know many of the others apart from scorecards that I look at on cricinfo. The best county player going around atm is Trescothick
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Jonny Bairstow, Adam Lythe, Danny Briggs, Jamie Vince, Carberry (love that bloke), Onions.
Count yourself lucky Tresco can't tour - he would demolish you
Onions is also a dudd
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If you don't know who they are, then how can you say we have no quality!
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Onions would be the first pick if he was an aussie. Ahead of Siddle, Johnson and anyone else you have...
He is a really quality bowler.
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The way you guys are talking, it's as if you think you demolish everyone. Ashes resut was 2-1, not 5-0.
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The way you guys are talking, it's as if you think you demolish everyone. Ashes resut was 2-1, not 5-0.
no, more I think that the Aussies are really weak... I don't even think we would be the Saffa's in SA at the moment.
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Onions is also a dudd
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/345972.html
First innings. Really? He made your lot look terrible. Also, Davies isn't a dud, just so we're clear he's a better keeper AND batsman than any of your lot, and I've kept up with a lot of Aussie cricket, so I'm fairly free to comment on that. Bopara I agree with, he's useless in my opinion, but still.
Also, as far as I remember the Ashes was 3-1...?
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Onions is a dud? He'd walk into the current Aussie side and lead the attack.....
Oh, and Ashes result was 3-1 wasn't it?
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It was 3-1
Mate, come on, you are on an English cricket forum, we are currently 2-0 up against India, we saw off Sri Lanka, we buried you lot, we have class falling out of our arses. You however, do not.
You are currently feeling how we have felt for years...not nice is it, and long may it continue :)
(Fair play to you though, you are out-numbered and out-gunned, but still fighting the fight. Some good Aussie spirit there Langer ;) )
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[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/345972.html[/url]
First innings. Really? He made your lot look terrible. Also, Davies isn't a dud, just so we're clear he's a better keeper AND batsman than any of your lot, and I've kept up with a lot of Aussie cricket, so I'm fairly free to comment on that. Bopara I agree with, he's useless in my opinion, but still.
Also, as far as I remember the Ashes was 3-1...?
My bad, was a typo. It really showed when he played in the one day series, I heard the commentators say people compare him to Gilchrist, so I thought he must be good, but then I saw him play and just laughed my ass off.
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Onions is also a dudd
Oh really, looks who get the first 3 wickets in this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6-UVzNdH4o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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It was 3-1
Mate, come on, you are on an English cricket forum, we are currently 2-0 up against India, we saw off Sri Lanka, we buried you lot, we have class falling out of our arses. You however, do not.
You are currently feeling how we have felt for years...not nice is it, and long may it continue :)
(Fair play to you though, you are out-numbered and out-gunned, but still fighting the fight. Some good Aussie spirit there Langer ;) )
I can't argue as England are going very good atm, but once all the safers go, will you be as good? Probs wont be for ages though.
I honestly don't feel that we are that bad, the selectors are, but I just don't think we are terrible just yet. Will see how wer go against Sri Lanka and then South Africa.
Lol, like 3 or 4 replies to my 1, ahah. You won't convince me and I won't convince you guys, so agree to disagree
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Oh really, looks who get the first 3 wickets in this clip. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6-UVzNdH4o&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/url]
2 years ago, move on.
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My bad, was a typo. It really showed when he played in the one day series, I heard the commentators say people compare him to Gilchrist, so I thought he must be good, but then I saw him play and just laughed my ass off.
For me, he's not ready yet. He is, however, better than all your lot like I previously stated (Brad Haddin? I mean come on, really?!) although Tim Paine would push him close.
2 years ago, move on.
Okay, so, this years Ashes, that'll do ;)
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Nobody said you are terrible, just not as good as you once were. It's just that Aussie arrogance thing I suppose, I like it. Makes it more fun wouldn't you agree?
Happens to the best of us...keep your chin up mate ;)
And when you say it was 2 years ago, move on etc, I've lost count of the amount of times you have mentioned the 5-0 whitewash
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For me, he's not ready yet. He is, however, better than all your lot like I previously stated (Brad Haddin? I mean come on, really?!) although Tim Paine would push him close. Okay, so, this years Ashes, that'll do ;)
I agree, Haddin isn't that good and I don't really like him. Paine will take over soon as he is a far better keeper and batsmen than Haddin, so the sooner the better. Haddin is an ordinary keeper.
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Glenn McGrath = amazing.
Regardless whether he's retired or not, he called it and did it! :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drYspbvaD3w
I wish I was that good!
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Nobody said you are terrible, just not as good as you once were. It's just that Aussie arrogance thing I suppose, I like it. Makes it more fun wouldn't you agree?
Happens to the best of us...keep your chin up mate ;)
And when you say it was 2 years ago, move on etc, I've lost count of the amount of times you have mentioned the 5-0 whitewash
I mentioned it once when the bloke put that link to the 05 ashes game and was he sure he wanted to sue that as an example, and then when I said you guys are talking as if you domiated, you won 3-1 not 5-0 and wasn't referencing Australia's, I was just saying you didn't..
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But we did dominate that series, how can you deny that? Apart from the day when MJ decided he could be arsed to play cricket at Perth, we were all over you. 3 victories by an Innings margin? You were destroyed mate
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But we did dominate that series, how can you deny that? Apart from the day when MJ decided he could be arsed to play cricket at Perth, we were all over you. 3 victories by an Innings margin? You were destroyed mate
Still, 3 games isn't 5. You guys got dominated at Perth, but that's because that is Johnson's ground, he plays waaayyyyy better there than anywhere else in the world.
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guys can we calm this down a bit and stop getting personal.
thanks
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Buzz I wasn't getting personal mate! Langer knows that! Just a bit of banter that's all...or have I not seen a reply that's been deleted
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It's all good, mine is gone too, lol.
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haha well it was always going to be you that lowered the tone ;)
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As a neutral I don't think England are head and shoulders above the Saffers right now so they would be worthy number 1 but still the competition would be very tight. I think its still pretty close between the two. I think South Africa have the only World Class Pace bowler in the world right now. Jimmy Anderson is pretty good but anyone averaging above 30 in tests in my book is not World Class (same goes for Zaheer Khan). Batting is pretty much even. England do have better bowling depth and the best spinner.
When do England and South Africa play next?
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next summer in England...
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As a neutral I don't think England are head and shoulders above the Saffers right now so they would be worthy number 1 but still the competition would be very tight. I think its still pretty close between the two. I think South Africa have the only World Class Pace bowler in the world right now. Jimmy Anderson is pretty good but anyone averaging above 30 in tests in my book is not World Class (same goes for Zaheer Khan). Batting is pretty much even. England do have better bowling depth and the best spinner.
When do England and South Africa play next?
Mitchell Johnson - 29.71
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England are always favorites to win at home, but away, sometimes, just sometimes, i have my doubts.
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Mitchell Johnson - 29.71
Trying to make out Johnson is better than Anderson is like trying to say starving to death is better than eating something that isnt that tasty, its pointless, a lie and wrong. At the moment England are better than Australia its undeniable just give up.