Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: tim2000s on August 05, 2011, 08:35:14 AM
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Having done my 3 x t 20 bay test earlier this year and used three different bats in the middle, I have come top the conclusion that the make and specific shape of the bat at my level of cricket is all but nonsense. A mid-to-low middle and reasonable balance seems to work for me.
Whether it is pressed well is clearly very important, as is confidence in your weapon, but having used top grade, grade 2 and grade 3 bats over the last three seasons, I've scored more runs due to the coaching tips than the bats.
Am I delusional?
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if pressing is important to you, and certain presses are key attributes of certain makes, then yes, the make IS important
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no you are not delusional, but everyone knows if you like the stickers on the bat it, you will score more runs with it...
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Am I delusional?
Not at all - I think I'm in the same boat Tim.
I 'm using an £80 bat and have hit over 600 runs with it this season. The reason I'm using it is because it felt great in my hands and made me feel confident.
I work about 5 minutes away from the M&H shop and can honestly say the bat I have feels as comfortable as some of the works of art worth over £250 I picked up in their shop.
One of our guys had a £80 GN Oblivion at nets last night. I had a knock with it and it felt wonderful. The printed face looks really horrible though!
I think if you've got good basic technique, almost any bat will score you runs - the rest is marketing bull****.
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But if u have a stick u can trust it gives more confidence. Which in turn increases chances of success at the crease.
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But if u have a stick u can trust it gives more confidence. Which in turn increases chances of success at the crease.
Why do I need to trust my stick? It isn't the stick that makes the runs...
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Why do I need to trust my stick? It isn't the stick that makes the runs...
No - but it is the stick if you middle the ball totally out of the screws (to use a golfing metefor) and get caught on the fence as it doesn't have the middle of a better bat.
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spend £250 on coaching sessions with buzz or on a bowling machine "grooving" shots. It will improve performance more than getting a higher grade willow. The wood only dictates how far the ball goes, not if you hit it or not. Getting the level of practise a "pro" gets will mean you time and middle the ball more often anyway.
No substitute for ability.
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spend £250 on coaching sessions with buzz.
you wont learn much in 15 mins... ;)
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you wont learn much in 15 mins... ;)
He he, £1000ph. Got any jobs going!
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let me ask you . . .why does Sachin and other prominent pro's pay so much attention to their bats. infact they reject a large number of bats given to them.
having the right bat matters, it give you confidence. i can only speak for myself, not sure what the others think. but if my bat isnt right, its always in the back of my mind when im batting. i shoud be thinking about the ball not the bat.
i have a truly exceptional CA TRD at home, it weighs 2lb 8oz but is utterly massive for the weight. its a truly awesome bat, but the handle doesnt feel right for me. will i use it, no unless i get the handle set up sorted.
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If ST paid so much attention to his cricket bats he would have signed for a bat manufacturer and not a PLC.
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let me ask you . . .why does Sachin and other prominent pro's pay so much attention to their bats. infact they reject a large number of bats given to them.
Because they are professional players. Tim's comment was about different bats at his playing level. I'm sure the higher up the ladder you go the more it makes a difference but not a huge amount.
An an analogy, if you gave Jimi Hendrix a cheap £100 guitar he would still sound like Jimi Hendrix - it's more to do with in-built technique and style than the tool. I believe if you gave Sachin or Ponting a grade 3/4 bat they'll still be the same player.
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If ST paid so much attention to his cricket bats he would have signed for a bat manufacturer and not a PLC.
Surely the stickers on his bat bear no relation to the actual bat being used though?
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Surely the stickers on his bat bear no relation to the actual bat being used though?
Surely a person held in such high esteem around the world would not use a product that is not produced by the brand he is the ambassador for ?
Adidas do not make cricket bats , in fact Adidas make zero products.
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I seem to remember a particular dislike towards Tendulkar. Something to do with an unpaid import tax bill.
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Surely a person held in such high esteem around the world would not use a product that is not produced by the brand he is the ambassador for ?
Adidas do not make cricket bats , in fact Adidas make zero products.
Pretty sure with the amount of money on the table pretty much everyone would.
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what a good thread this is. for most club players a £325.00 custom made bat form m and h tailsman,redback or whoever is the current fav won't make the slightest bit difference to whether you score runs or don't, it's totally in the mind.It might make you feel like a Pro but won't make you play like one-the only way to improve is to practice as has been said.I have finally stopped changing my bat if i dont do well and got back in the nets.
If you have even watched a pro in the nets they middle the ball virtually every shot,they all have qulity bats,but they practice over and over again.
Tendulkar is a genius, he also works on his game ever day
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I seem to remember a particular dislike towards Tendulkar. Something to do with an unpaid import tax bill.
It never went unpaid , FIAT coughed up the bill to the Indians.
back on topic , batsmen will always lay blame when they cannot buy a run so it is very rarely the bat.
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no you are not delusional, but everyone knows if you like the stickers on the bat it, you will score more runs with it...
Whenever I pick up a GM ;) :D
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I find that having a good bat gives me some confidence. When I walk out with my M & H I know I can easily clear that guy at long off-whereas if I had a Kashmir I would very much doubt it.
I'm quite sure a good bat is a good bat-it let's you hit the ball further, with more control or harder. Obviously there is a certain barrier between marketing and actual performance increase, but it definitely counts to have a good bat. Did I mention you look good?
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Reopening my old thread a bit, got a couple of nice new bats (still haven't spent more than £200 on a bat though) and picked up a number of older ebay pieces. Some of these vintage bats (and I might iterate, only some) seem to still be in good nick and look to have plenty of willow for their weight, so it will be interesting to take them into a net session and find out how they compare against newer lumps of wood.
The ones that seem to have retained their "ping" are a Dynadrive, a Slaz V500, an SS Turbo Supreme (non-laminated), the GN Ultimate, GM Diamond and the Hunts County reflex. I suspect in club cricket that most of these would still be considered excellent bats and indeed, are probably used around the country in many places...
I'm still up for a T20 day, where in the first game, all batsmen must use vintage bats and retire at 25, and in the second, use modern bats, and retire at 25. I think That's be an interesting exercise!
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The batmaker only makes a marginal difference-everyone knows having cool stickers gets you sixes on the pitch and drinks in the bar.
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I presume the pressing makes way more difference than the 'shaper', I've used bats of vastly different shapes, but so long as their the same weight it's never really had an effect.