Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
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Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« on: August 05, 2011, 08:35:14 AM »
Having done my 3 x t 20 bay test earlier this year and used three different bats in the middle, I have come top the conclusion that the make and specific shape of the bat at my level of cricket is all but nonsense. A mid-to-low middle and reasonable balance seems to work for me.

Whether it is pressed well is clearly very important, as is confidence in your weapon, but having used top grade, grade 2 and grade 3 bats over the last three seasons, I've scored more runs due to the coaching tips than the bats.


Am I delusional?
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 08:38:19 AM »
if pressing is important to you, and certain presses are key attributes of certain makes, then yes, the make IS important
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 08:43:14 AM »
no you are not delusional, but everyone knows if you like the stickers on the bat it, you will score more runs with it...
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 08:49:44 AM »
Quote from: tim2000s on August 05, 2011, 08:35:14 AM
Am I delusional?
Not at all - I think I'm in the same boat Tim.

I 'm using an £80 bat and have hit over 600 runs with it this season. The reason I'm using it is because it felt great in my hands and made me feel confident.

I work about 5 minutes away from the M&H shop and can honestly say the bat I have feels as comfortable as some of the works of art worth over £250 I picked up in their shop.

One of our guys had a £80 GN Oblivion at nets last night. I had a knock with it and it felt wonderful. The printed face looks really horrible though!

I think if you've got good basic technique, almost any bat will score you runs - the rest is marketing bull****.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 09:08:55 AM »

But if u have a stick u can trust it gives more confidence. Which in turn increases chances of success at the crease.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 09:15:12 AM »
Quote from: 100 not out on August 05, 2011, 09:08:55 AM
But if u have a stick u can trust it gives more confidence. Which in turn increases chances of success at the crease.
Why do I need to trust my stick? It isn't the stick that makes the runs...
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 09:17:21 AM »
Quote from: tim2000s on August 05, 2011, 09:15:12 AM
Why do I need to trust my stick? It isn't the stick that makes the runs...
No - but it is the stick if you middle the ball totally out of the screws (to use a golfing metefor) and get caught on the fence as it doesn't have the middle of a better bat.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 09:22:17 AM »
spend £250 on coaching sessions with buzz or on a bowling machine "grooving" shots. It will improve performance more than getting a higher grade willow. The wood only dictates how far the ball goes, not if you hit it or not. Getting the level of practise a "pro" gets will mean you time and middle the ball more often anyway.

No substitute for ability.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 09:26:40 AM »
Quote from: uknsaunders on August 05, 2011, 09:22:17 AM
spend £250 on coaching sessions with buzz.

you wont learn much in 15 mins... ;)
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 09:39:36 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on August 05, 2011, 09:26:40 AM
you wont learn much in 15 mins... ;)
He he, £1000ph. Got any jobs going!
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 09:50:54 AM »
let me ask you . . .why does Sachin and other prominent pro's pay so much attention to their bats. infact they reject a large number of bats given to them.
having the right bat matters, it give you confidence. i can only speak for myself, not sure what the others think. but if my bat isnt right, its always in the back of my mind when im batting. i shoud be thinking about the ball not the bat.

i have a truly exceptional CA TRD at home, it weighs 2lb 8oz but is utterly massive for the weight. its a truly awesome bat, but the handle doesnt feel right for me. will i use it, no unless i get the handle set up sorted.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 10:03:04 AM »
If ST paid so much attention to his cricket bats he would have signed for a bat manufacturer and not a PLC.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 10:08:25 AM »
Quote from: 100 not out on August 05, 2011, 09:50:54 AM
let me ask you . . .why does Sachin and other prominent pro's pay so much attention to their bats. infact they reject a large number of bats given to them.
Because they are professional players. Tim's comment was about different bats at his playing level. I'm sure the higher up the ladder you go the more it makes a difference but not a huge amount.

An an analogy, if you gave Jimi Hendrix a cheap £100 guitar he would still sound like Jimi Hendrix - it's more to do with in-built technique and style than the tool. I believe if you gave Sachin or Ponting a grade 3/4 bat they'll still be the same player.
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 11:56:48 AM »
Quote from: Lekka Global Alliance on August 05, 2011, 10:03:04 AM
If ST paid so much attention to his cricket bats he would have signed for a bat manufacturer and not a PLC.
Surely the stickers on his bat bear no relation to the actual bat being used though?
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Re: Just how much does the make of the bat really matter?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 12:11:13 PM »
Quote from: thecord on August 05, 2011, 11:56:48 AM
Surely the stickers on his bat bear no relation to the actual bat being used though?

Surely a person held in such high esteem around the world would not use a product that is not produced by the brand he is the ambassador for ?

Adidas do not make cricket bats , in fact Adidas make zero products.

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