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Title: Aus v NZ
Post by: johnnyw on November 30, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
I am going to stay up and watch this if Aus bat as I have been waiting for the last two years for Dave Warner to play in a test. I think he will make a brilliant test player as he has a good technique and is way more reliable than hughes. And also he is my favourite player

I am going to back him to score a debut ton
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Post by: tbarnfield99 on November 30, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
Get your money where your mouth is!
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Post by: Cover_Drive on November 30, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
Big fat zero I reckon
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Post by: johnnyw on November 30, 2011, 07:43:55 PM
I have a tenner on him at 7/1 to score a ton
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Post by: essexarsenal on November 30, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
Warner is in the test team ? Dearey me australia
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Post by: Alvaro on November 30, 2011, 08:29:54 PM
He can't be worse than Hughes!
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Post by: jw17 on November 30, 2011, 08:30:16 PM
Warner for PM!
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Post by: essexarsenal on November 30, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Suppose it will make good viewing Warner and Hughes together ! Might have to watch this too.
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Post by: Canners on November 30, 2011, 08:42:10 PM
What times it start ?
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Post by: jw17 on November 30, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
12 i think!
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Post by: Canners on November 30, 2011, 08:52:17 PM
Thanks
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Post by: shaqharris on November 30, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
I have a tenner on him at 7/1 to score a ton
Let the games begin I have just put a tenner on Clarke to be top scorer in first I Ning for oz 7/1 not bad odds at all
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 30, 2011, 09:36:21 PM
I reckon I'll watch some of it, providing its available on Sky Go so I can watch it in bed!

I always like watching matches from Australia, blazing sunshine there where here is midnight and the rain in pounding the window!
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Post by: shaqharris on November 30, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
I reckon I'll watch some of it, providing its available on Sky Go so I can watch it in bed!

I always like watching matches from Australia, blazing sunshine there where here is midnight and the rain in pounding the window!
Snap , when we had the snow lazy year and I was watching the opening ball of the ashes was bliss
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Post by: 19reading87 on November 30, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
Snap , when we had the snow lazy year and I was watching the opening ball of the ashes was bliss

Double snap
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Post by: Manormanic on November 30, 2011, 11:02:39 PM
Warner is in the test team ? Dearey me australia

Not really - I appreciate that people will thinkof him first for his exploits in 20/20, but anyone who knows cricket can see that the lad has decent technique - certainly better than the likes of Hughes and Khawaja - allied to superlative hand eye coordination.  I'm not saying that he might not be "found out" on an English greentop - but lets face it, that could just as easily apply to all of the modern greats.  In addition, he is a superb fielder and, by reputation, a sound team man.  I reckon its a decent call...
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Post by: 123* on November 30, 2011, 11:08:06 PM
Not really - I appreciate that people will thinkof him first for his exploits in 20/20, but anyone who knows cricket can see that the lad has decent technique - certainly better than the likes of Hughes and Khawaja - allied to superlative hand eye coordination.  I'm not saying that he might not be "found out" on an English greentop - but lets face it, that could just as easily apply to all of the modern greats.  In addition, he is a superb fielder and, by reputation, a sound team man.  I reckon its a decent call...

Agree think when you watch him play twenty20 he plays orthodox shots rather than massive swipes across the line; however disagree about him looking better than Khawaja, think he looks a cut above the rest with both his temperament and skill, I think he'll go far!
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Post by: PedalsMcgrew on November 30, 2011, 11:08:16 PM
As others have said, he can't be any worse than Hughes who seems to be surviving on a reputation that has been very cheaply won. Then again, I think Clarke is massively overrated so what do I know? Is Marsh fit?
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Post by: The_Bird on November 30, 2011, 11:25:08 PM
I've heard its an all change pace attack for Aus as well, also how will Jesse Ryder perform since runners are not allowed lol.
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Post by: Mr Cricket on November 30, 2011, 11:31:58 PM
the best thing about winter, just got back from a pool match, an hour of this and then bed, spot on
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Post by: Manormanic on November 30, 2011, 11:32:57 PM
Agree think when you watch him play twenty20 he plays orthodox shots rather than massive swipes across the line; however disagree about him looking better than Khawaja, think he looks a cut above the rest with both his temperament and skill, I think he'll go far!

Khawaja may be special - tough one to call on his form so far - but if you look back at my comment I was specifically referrign to technique and I do not believe that anyone would take Khawaja in that regard, what with the closed stance, hooked bat face and, erm, idiosynchratic choice of balls to play at!  Put simply, with Warner, the building blocks are there - whether he is good or great is of course open to debate, but he has the tools with which to make a shot at it!
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 12:07:04 AM
Cutting should be playing tbh. Best player in the shield this year, plus he is a queenslander so he knows the conditions. I think they've only gone with Starc because he is a leftie, which I think is ridiculous reason to select someone.

Starc did get a 5 for a few weeks ago in the shield game against Qld, but three of them were 9,10,11.

I think they've got it wrong, but I hope the 2 bowlers play well and prove me wrong.
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on December 01, 2011, 12:16:38 AM
The stuff people are saying about Warner opening, could the same stuff be said about McCullam?
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 12:17:33 AM
Cutting is also 24, so he is 3 years older than he other 2, so he would know his game better.

Just noticed that my last post was my 1000th, yay for me haha.
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Post by: The_Bird on December 01, 2011, 12:22:34 AM
Any reason why no-one recently has been using the latest Kookaburra stuff they are all using last years bats?? Also it's so nice to hear Richie Benaud commentate, I could listen to him all day unlike Mark Nicholas and Bob Willis....
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 12:27:45 AM
Ball doing a fair bit. NZ scoring but also playing and missing at quite a few.
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Post by: cricketbadger on December 01, 2011, 12:36:30 AM
pattinson looks twice the bowler on debut than his brother did on his england debut
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Post by: NathRobbo88 on December 01, 2011, 12:56:28 AM
Guptill Gone, Caught Behind!
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2011, 01:09:12 AM
Langer mate, Starc do look like a decent bowler.
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Post by: Canners on December 01, 2011, 01:10:17 AM
Anyone noticed how Williamson has blatently left only the cherries on the middle of his bat lol ?
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2011, 01:27:34 AM
Anyone noticed how Williamson has blatently left only the cherries on the middle of his bat lol ?

Indeed!

Only middle!! How surprising!

Maybe he used nail polish mate ;-)
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2011, 01:35:11 AM
Must say Williamsons stance is quite good, looks solid!
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 01:42:00 AM
Langer mate, Starc do look like a decent bowler.

Not aruging with that, he certainly does, but;

Cutting 4 games 23 wickets @ 14.65

Starc 4 games 15 wickets @ 31.53

Pattinson 2 games 9 wickets @ 24.00

Starc has looked much better than Pattinson so far.

Don't know if you guys can tell I'm miffed, being a Queenslander and all, haha

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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 01:48:59 AM
You know how it goes,

Qld has 5 outright wins out of 5 games, but they only had 1 representative in the Australia A game last week.

To the surprise of no one, 2 more NSW players in the Australian team. Which now makes it.

Hughes
Warner
Khawaja
Clarke
Haddin
Starc
Cummins

Although Warner almost left NSW as he wasn't getting a go in FC, but he stayed and that now adds to the NSW, oops, I mean Australian team, lol ;)
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Post by: cricketbadger on December 01, 2011, 01:53:25 AM
got to admire Ryders lack of footwork and technique,to still make a test side at number 5 wowww :s
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Post by: Hads45 on December 01, 2011, 01:59:19 AM
NZ 4/93 after being 0/45. A wicket to every one of the bowlers so far.

Theres alot in this deck. Type of deck which Anderson and co would go right through the Australian batting. Vettori and maybe Martin might have similar luck later in the test.

On a sidenote - Given how Green it is, I wouldnt be backing any player to score a 100
Title: Re: Aus v NZ
Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 02:10:01 AM
NZ 4/93 after being 0/45. A wicket to every one of the bowlers so far.

Theres alot in this deck. Type of deck which Anderson and co would go right through the Australian batting. Vettori and maybe Martin might have similar luck later in the test.

On a sidenote - Given how Green it is, I wouldnt be backing any player to score a 100

It is lively, turn and bounce for Lyon on day one, so Vettori will be looking forward to having a bowl.

On the pitch - this is the first time it has been used in 15 years for test cricket, and it deffinately has something in it.
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 05:15:51 AM
Bloody Queensland weather, bad light has stopped play atm but there are massive storms about, and the radar shows it will piss down very soon. Gotta love QLD, looks all good, then BAM! Storm, ahahha.
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2011, 06:36:41 AM
As usual Vettori to rescue for New Zealand, there batsman should have some shame I'd say LOL
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 07:08:34 AM
As usual Vettori to rescue for New Zealand, there batsman should have some shame I'd say LOL

In his first 44 test matches he averaged less than 16. Over the last 3 years he has averaged more than 40, what a champion.

Assuming he stays fit, he could get the 5000 runs/400 wicket combo.
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 07:12:25 AM
From Wikipedia:

"Although it took Vettori 47 Tests to score his first 1,000 runs at an average of 17.24, the second thousand took him just 22 Tests at a rate of 42.52 per innings."

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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 01, 2011, 07:18:01 AM
Indeed! He is a top bloke too! Very good person and cricketer too!

Isn't that highest average from a New Zealand batsman for past 2-3 years? LOL
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Post by: bigboy on December 01, 2011, 08:15:04 AM
Any reason why no-one recently has been using the latest Kookaburra stuff they are all using last years bats?? Also it's so nice to hear Richie Benaud commentate, I could listen to him all day unlike Mark Nicholas and Bob Willis....
Because it's the current seasons equipment, boxing day will be when we get a sneak peek of next seasons kit.
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Post by: Simmy on December 01, 2011, 08:26:52 AM
got to admire Ryders lack of footwork and technique,to still make a test side at number 5 wowww :s

buzz likes to use ryder as an example of how good u can be with not much footwork and not the best technique!

i didnt really know of the guy till buzz made me watch some vids.

he is a very clean hitter of the ball! i like him :)
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Post by: Johnny on December 01, 2011, 08:49:12 AM
Ryder is my hero! Tubby left-hand mid-order bat, and right arm medium bowler - likes a drink too!
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Post by: uknsaunders on December 01, 2011, 08:57:26 AM
Ryder is a legend - like a samit patel with talent lol - bit harsh but he should of been playing for england in the 80's, he would of been in good company .
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Post by: Alvaro on December 01, 2011, 08:59:30 AM
It is lively, turn and bounce for Lyon on day one, so Vettori will be looking forward to having a bowl.

When was the last time Vettori turned it?
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Post by: langer17 on December 01, 2011, 09:36:54 AM
When was the last time Vettori turned it?

Whens the last time an Australian spinner turned it? Hahahah, lol.
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Post by: cricketbadger on December 01, 2011, 07:07:48 PM
buzz likes to use ryder as an example of how good u can be with not much footwork and not the best technique!

i didnt really know of the guy till buzz made me watch some vids.

he is a very clean hitter of the ball! i like him :)

he does hit a good ball,good to watch aswell because always likely to be some sort of entertainment

takes some blinding catches in the field aswell
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Post by: Manormanic on December 01, 2011, 08:40:51 PM
Whens the last time an Australian spinner turned it? Hahahah, lol.

to be fair though, no Australian spinner professes to be anything other than third arte do they?  Vettori is, if some people are to be believed, world class...
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 12:48:19 AM
Would you believe that, Vettori goes and runs himself out on 96
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Post by: Village Trundler on December 02, 2011, 12:49:09 AM
Would you believe that, Vettori goes and runs himself out on 96 after not really being troubled.

Yep. Clearly spot fixing.
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 02:38:49 AM
Warner makes 3....


Hoping Usman makes a big score :)
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Post by: thecord on December 02, 2011, 03:51:17 AM
Would you believe that, Vettori goes and runs himself out on 96
Jug evasion?
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Post by: Village Trundler on December 02, 2011, 04:30:34 AM
Ponting reaches 25 and gets a standing ovation.
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 05:04:24 AM
Good sessions by the Aussies, lost 2 early but a good fight back from Ponting and Khawaja.

Anyone see the young gun bowl off?

It was 2 balls to bowl as quick as they could. 2 got the same (134km/h) then had a 1 ball bowl off and the winner was 138 km/h by an 18 year old.

Walden the tall leftie, plays 1st grade at my club and he got 131 km/h

I played against that Steketee bloke and thought he was bloody quick, he got it up to 138 km/h, so was quick indeed. Only problem was that he was erractic and almost bowled every ball short of a length/short.
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 05:04:49 AM
Bloody hell, Khawaja run out first ball after tea.
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 05:22:14 AM
Just read on cricinfo that Ryan Harris has been told he must get to a point where he can gaurentee that he can play 5 days.


From cricinfo:

"One of the most problematic men among the quintet of players omitted from the Brisbane Tests, Harris, 32, is Australia's best bowler when fit, but seemingly less likely to remain so with each match he plays. Pat Howard, the team performance manager, has decreed Harris must be brought to a point at which he is capable of performing for five days before he can resume with the team."

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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 05:50:00 AM
That was not a run Punter :(
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 05:55:17 AM
That was not a run Punter :(

No run needed there, 1st ball after tea. Completely Ponting's fault.
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 06:09:42 AM
No run needed there, 1st ball after tea. Completely Ponting's fault.

True.

I guess Pointing is still under pressure, you don't see Ponting doing that much to be honest.

If he scores a century here (for which I am hoping really) then his body language will be completely different.

I would say Usman just got unlucky, he was going well and was pretty much set for a big knock I'd say.
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 06:17:32 AM
True.

I guess Pointing is still under pressure, you don't see Ponting doing that much to be honest.

If he scores a century here (for which I am hoping really) then his body language will be completely different.

I would say Usman just got unlucky, he was going well and was pretty much set for a big knock I'd say.

Pressure still on him, so hoepfully he goes on and continues with his good form.

Khawaja's scores have been 37, 26, 21, 13, 12, 65 and 38. So he has gotten a start in every game, but he just jasn't been able to go on with it, today looked like he was gearing for a big one, but wasn't to be. His time will come though.
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Post by: langer17 on December 02, 2011, 06:18:59 AM
Clarke goes to leave, but can't get his bat out of the way in time and hits the edge and he chops on off Bracewell. Clarke looks livid with himself and is walking off. Wait, what's this? Umpires checking to see if it's a no ball..... It is a no ball and Clarke makes his way back to the middle.

Unlucky Bracewell, just like Beer in the ashes last year.
Title: Re: Aus v NZ
Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 06:32:08 AM
Pressure still on him, so hoepfully he goes on and continues with his good form.

Khawaja's scores have been 37, 26, 21, 13, 12, 65 and 38. So he has gotten a start in every game, but he just jasn't been able to go on with it, today looked like he was gearing for a big one, but wasn't to be. His time will come though.

Indeed, he is not able to capitalize on those scores, I would say he is a bit like Azhar Ali. In start Azhar too got starts and got fifties but was not able to convert into 100 until recent Sri Lanka series.

Obviously Khawaja is much more classy than Azhar without a doubt.
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 06:35:08 AM
Clarke goes to leave, but can't get his bat out of the way in time and hits the edge and he chops on off Bracewell. Clarke looks livid with himself and is walking off. Wait, what's this? Umpires checking to see if it's a no ball..... It is a no ball and Clarke makes his way back to the middle.

Unlucky Bracewell, just like Beer in the ashes last year.

Lucky Clarke :)

This umpire Asad Rauf has improved by miles, he was useless in beginning, he has got a lot better now.

Whoever umpires in Australian soil test matches is indeed one of the best umpires (Obviously Simon can't umpire in Aussie series)
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Post by: Village Trundler on December 02, 2011, 06:43:20 AM
Quote from: Cover_Drive

I guess Pointing is still under pressure, you don't see Ponting doing that much to be honest.

True, normally he just runs himself out. More than anyone else to play the game!

That no ball reversal is a joke. Either you give it out or no ball.

If umpires can't properly make a decision when someone is clean bowled, they have no place in the game.
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Post by: Cover_Drive on December 02, 2011, 07:05:16 AM

That no ball reversal is a joke. Either you give it out or no ball.

If umpires can't properly make a decision when someone is clean bowled, they have no place in the game.

I agree, but apart from that decision, Rauf looked very good umpire.

I have been seeing him as an umpire since 2005 when he made test debut
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Post by: Manormanic on December 02, 2011, 04:10:24 PM
Khawaja's scores have been 37, 26, 21, 13, 12, 65 and 38. So he has gotten a start in every game, but he just jasn't been able to go on with it, today looked like he was gearing for a big one, but wasn't to be. His time will come though.

Reminds me of a young lad who came into the England side in teh late 80s/early 90s with a big rep - MArk Ramprakash....
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Post by: Alvaro on December 02, 2011, 05:10:24 PM
Ramprakash didn't play across/around his front pad as much as Khawaja...
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Post by: johan95 on December 03, 2011, 11:42:43 PM
Decent over from Pattinson there - triple wicket maiden..
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Post by: 97notout on December 03, 2011, 11:59:26 PM
This rate its going to be all over by 1am our time, at least I'll get to bed early. lol