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Equipment => Pads => Topic started by: Vic Nicholas on January 14, 2012, 09:22:24 AM
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A couple of guys at my club have AMSU superlite batting pads, and I must comnfess they are amongst the best I have ever seen.
They are similar in style and design to the Morrants but better looking.
Now, the guys at my club have told me that AMSU are an Indian brand that are manufactured purely for Indian domestic consumption and are not for export.
I have Googled AMSU and those guys wren't kidding - you literally can find nothing on them. No pictures, nothing.
The only thing I have found is that AMSU as a sporting goods manufacturer does actually exist.
http://yellowpages.webindia123.com/details/Punjab/Jalandhar/Sports+Accessories/3246/
Some of the Indian lads on this forum would have seen these pads in their trips to India and know what I am talking about.
Simply awesome in every way.
If anyone has a pair, could you please take some pics and put them up in the forum here so everyone can see what I am talking about.
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These sound like the perfect pads can someone please upload some pics
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Or a link to some pics.....
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There is literally not one pic on all of the internet of these pads.
I might have to get a hold of Ranjit and photograph his with my phone, but as he plays in the 5ths and I in the 3rds, we are rarely in the same place at the same time.
That may be our best bet for everyone to see what I am talking about.
I am amazed that companies can exist that produce only for the internal Indian market...they don't even have a webpage for heavens sake!
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There's hundreds of little backstreet cricket houses in India, some of them are re-badged from other manufacturers whereas others actually take on a lot of outsourced work from the bigger guys.
I'm interested to see pics of these though, sound cool.
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They sound interesting Vic, are they PU faced or cloth? I admit the cloth facing of Morants is what puts me off owning a pair.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/cooldewd/AmsuPads.jpg)
Here is what they look like.
Ranjit informs me that they cost 1000 rupees in India - which equates to $20AUSD or 13 pound.
He is going to grab me a pair when he next goes to India in a few months.
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Might be an idea to ask him to grab a few pairs
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These pads are three and half years old at least...
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I saw these at a sports shop when I went to India, they were very light but I didn't try them on as I was more there to pick myself a bat.
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They are bloody lovely!
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they look ok, but I prefer the gm rsbs for this type of pad.
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RSB's are stiff and wide, I hate them with a passion.
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I want a pair
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OK---- these guys--- I have heard their names in the past; If I am not mistaken I have seen folks using them. I think they make bats too. Will check out with my Punjabi friend tomorrow.
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I want a pair
Me too there lovely!!
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I think they look a bit (No Swearing Please) really. There are about a dozen small brands with identical pads to these. Yes they are light and cheap but you get what you pay for, which isn't much....
P.s. A guy I played with last year had similar. Reminded me of what we used to wear in the eighties just with Velcro straps.
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What Tim said!
I think they look a bit (No Swearing Please) really. There are about a dozen small brands with identical pads to these. Yes they are light and cheap but you get what you pay for, which isn't much....
P.s. A guy I played with last year had similar. Reminded me of what we used to wear in the eighties just with Velcro straps.
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What Tim said!
What Buzz said :D
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What Buzz said :D
What Nick said.
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Indeed, pads like that are 10 a penny in india. e.g.,
http://www.alibaba.com/product/mahajanbrothersindia-104910092-100784338/productdetail.html
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What Kulli said.
I'm sticking with my Morrants :)
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You can get very good quality moulded pads from india if you pay a bit extra for some manufacturs. The cheap moulded pads are poor quality
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You can get very good quality moulded pads from india if you pay a bit extra for some manufacturs. The cheap moulded pads are poor quality
How can you tell the difference? By looks alone?
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You would have to see them in person really. I had a couple of indian team mates who had moulded pads from different companies and there is a noticeable difference in quality in material they are made from eg. the facing, lining and velcro
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I reckon the first person to sell some decent quality morrant lookalikes, at the right price, will make a killing on this forum.
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What would the right price be though.
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£50 would be the cheapest anyone could sell anything near the quality of morrants
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personally i would just go the BAS BOW 20/20.
They cost a little more but they look the part. If they had them here in aus i would be eager to snap a pair up!
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Yep, sometimes the finishing in these smaller companies might not be so great. But then again some of these are quite well finished as well. But all will offer good value.
The smaller companies have less costs to contend with like insurance, employee insurance and contracts, and they do not need middle-men--- so the cost for these AMSU like pads will be less than 15 pounds normally.
Also subtract the cost of advertising and sponsorship and the low cost seems even more plausible.
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Indeed, pads like that are 10 a penny in india. e.g.,
[url]http://www.alibaba.com/product/mahajanbrothersindia-104910092-100784338/productdetail.html[/url]
I don't know whether this Alibaba ad is legit or not as the majority of Alibaba ads are dubious but the Kangroo products overall are quite good and cheap; finish and quality should be more or less at par with BDM, which as we know, should not be so bad.
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You can get very good quality moulded pads from india if you pay a bit extra for some manufacturs. The cheap moulded pads are poor quality
How so?
The pads in the picture are three and half years old.
In other words, this is the fourth season my friend has been using them and they are still in excellent condition even though my friend never bothers cleaning them etc.
The stitching has not come apart and they still look quality.
These comments, "you get what you pay for", "the cheap moulded pads are poor quality" etc smack of jealousy to be honest.
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Let me make the points clearer:
These pads weigh similarly to Morrants.
These pads look better than Morrants.
These pads stain less easily than Morrants.
These pads are seemingly just as durable as Morrants (fourth season use with more to come sounds durable to me).
These pads are less than 1/10th the cost of Morrants.
Please tell me where the negatives are?
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what vic said
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What level of protection do they offer? or they cheaper due to differing protection quality as well as the reasons mentioned beforehand or are they as protective as morrants?
I like the look and price of them lol
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As regards to the quality, and it again depends on the particular company and the product, if it is good, it can be close to being as good as a top of the range SG or SS, which are really really good.
As for protection, again read the above.
But it is not a rule of thumb, you need a bit of luck as well. Having spent a lot of time discussing all these with my friends in India and having gone to Jallandhar a few times myself, I can simply say that based on the value offered by a few of these companies, you cannot go wrong overall. The ratio of being lucky to unlucky if you can hunt down a family run good independent entrepreneur should be around 90:10. The ratio of finding a good company to a bad one is 40:60.
I hope this gives a bit of idea :)
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those pads do NOT look better than morrant pads
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those pads do NOT look better than morrant pads
What cricketbadger said.....
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Sounds to me those people ripped off paying 200AUSD for Morrants will try and justify in any way that somehow that anything cheaper MUST somehow be inferior.
Don't bet on it.
These pads are awesome in everyway...and let me get this straight, I have seen both these and Morrants up close and it is the Morrants that look cheaply made by comparison.
Someone upload a front and back photo of the Morrants and place them side by side with these pads.
The fact that these 20 buck pads are arguably better is a sobering reality check to the "more expensive is better" brigade.
These guys are the same ones who will swear black and blue that the 500 pound GM signature series are better than a 300 pound bespoke masterpiece - "because you get what you pay for".
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Let me make the points clearer:
These pads weigh similarly to Morrants.
These pads look better than Morrants.
These pads stain less easily than Morrants.
These pads are seemingly just as durable as Morrants (fourth season use with more to come sounds durable to me).
These pads are less than 1/10th the cost of Morrants.
Please tell me where the negatives are?
What vic and Lazza said
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can you weigh them please to back some of this up. We have a lightest pad thread somewhere.
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Viv, i was not saying the pads you have are poor quality, i was pointing out the fact that most immatations of morrant pads can be poor quality and i was only saying it so people dont go out buying cheap ones.
I bet the pads you have have gone up alot in price in the last 3 years as production costs have risen
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vic, on the "they last a long time" point.. your mate who has them is in your 5th team right, and you have previously said you, in the 3rds, don't play a great standard.
is it fair to say that the owner doesn't use them much then!
I don't like these or the morrants so consider myself impartial on the subject!
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coming at it from a protection viewpoint, unless you face 75mph + then i think these will do a job. from a value for money perspective, id be very happy.
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vic, on the "they last a long time" point.. your mate who has them is in your 5th team right, and you have previously said you, in the 3rds, don't play a great standard.
is it fair to say that the owner doesn't use them much then!
I don't like these or the morrants so consider myself impartial on the subject!
He bats at number 3, so he certainly uses his pads every week!
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Viv, i was not saying the pads you have are poor quality, i was pointing out the fact that most immatations of morrant pads can be poor quality and i was only saying it so people dont go out buying cheap ones.
I bet the pads you have have gone up alot in price in the last 3 years as production costs have risen
They are not my pads.
I wear GM RSBs.
Look funny, but are light and do the job.
The best thing I love about the RSB's is that they are very easy to keep clean - you simply give them a wipe!
My gear:
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=9914.0
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He bats at number 3, so he certainly uses his pads every week!
Just not for very long... ;) (or he would be in the 4's...!)
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Just not for very long... ;) (or he would be in the 4's...!)
He sometimes plays in the fourths, but as he is the fifths wicket keeper, he is a required man! :)
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my view had nothing to do with the price or quality of the pad
i just think they look (No Swearing Please)
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(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants6.jpg)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants5.jpg)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants4.jpg)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants3.jpg)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants2.jpg)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/morrants.jpg)
choose your favourite!!
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(http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx98/johnnyw18/silex.jpg)
These ones aswell buzz. I can get my hands on these easily :D
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The RSB's make me throw up a little in my mouth
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MB ones for me, would be better without the branding, but I don't think I will ever wear a pair of pads like these.
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(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii62/davide31/BosomPadFeatherlite.jpg)
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I dislike them all, I much prefer the traditional pad!!
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I like The_Birds Bosom's :D :D D Dum Cha
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I was always skeptical about these so decided to buy some RSB's and i now think they're great and i would recomend them to anyone!
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Mb's for me
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Morrant!
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Mb's for me
What Canners said. Kangroo stuff are good.
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The RSB's make me throw up a little in my mouth
Hahaha
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I do like the MB's. Might buy 12 and flog 'em on ebay
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What Canners said. Kangroo stuff are good.
It's very hit and miss though, as they don't make any themselves. Rather source from different factories around Meerut, so you get varying levels of quality depending on who's made them or who's offcuts they get.
They only make Carrom boards (or did when I visited)
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I do like the MB's. Might buy 12 and flog 'em on ebay
How much are they each?
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I contacted him, and he said MOQ 12 at £21.50 each
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14080
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It's very hit and miss though, as they don't make any themselves. Rather source from different factories around Meerut, so you get varying levels of quality depending on who's made them or who's offcuts they get.
They only make Carrom boards (or did when I visited)
Kangroo is the specialist cricketing arm of MB; they do outsource though but are more involved in cricket nowadays. But because of outsourcing their prices will be more than some of the independent manufacturing units in Jallandhar and even Indore for that matter.
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They're based in Meerut, as I met Nitin 2 years ago - at that stage it was just Carrom being made in the MB/Kangroo factory. These exact pads were in the show room along with his full Kangroo range as I remember joking with the Aussies I was with about the dodgy spelling! £21.50 is about £7 too expensive for moulded pads.
There's hundreds of 'manufacturers' on AliBaba who just outsource. In fact it's not uncommon to visit them and they'll take you to another persons factory, and pass it off as their own!
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[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14080[/url]
Be very careful of Alibaba---- full of fake dealers who use real names; learn to haggle with these guys and the price will come down drastically. But will be a struggle with the bigger ones though.
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They're based in Meerut, as I met Nitin 2 years ago - at that stage it was just Carrom being made in the MB/Kangroo factory. These exact pads were in the show room along with his full Kangroo range as I remember joking with the Aussies I was with about the dodgy spelling! £21.50 is about £7 too expensive for moulded pads.
There's hundreds of 'manufacturers' on AliBaba who just outsource. In fact it's not uncommon to visit them and they'll take you to another persons factory, and pass it off as their own!
Agree to that last part; it is very difficult to find the 'right' one unless you know your way around them.
Did you visit the Punjab by any chance Tom?
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No, I was based in Meerut for the full month and a bit.
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Meerut is a big hub. The other one is the Punjab.
Some of the smaller units in Jallandhar make good stuff,really cheap and good. Finishing might not be too consistent though.
What was your experience with the smaller factories around Meerut? There are tons of them there as well. Some of them do very good work.
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Sounds like India is worth a trip :)
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^^that's what the beatles said^^
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Sounds like India is worth a trip :)
Absolutely! Learn the art of haggling and make sure you keep your eyes and ears open when making deals and you will be fine.
Oh-- dont forget to visit the Taj Mahal ;)
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Went to Goa, no factories but long beaches and lovely food :) cricket games going on everywhere as well.....Heaven!!!!!
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Absolutely! Learn the art of haggling and make sure you keep your eyes and ears open when making deals and you will be fine.
Oh-- dont forget to visit the Taj Mahal ;)
You can be my guide :)
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Went to Goa, no factories but long beaches and lovely food :) cricket games going on everywhere as well.....Heaven!!!!!
And a lot of attractive birds to see as well eh ;)
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And a lot of attractive birds to see as well eh ;)
Wasn't all good I tipped the waiter 1000 rupees on the first night and came back with a £600 phone bill....... Cheers love ;)
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Wasn't all good I tipped the waiter 1000 rupees on the first night and came back with a £600 phone bill....... Cheers love ;)
Wow!! Did I read that correctly??
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Wow!! Did I read that correctly??
The waiter was delighted think he took the rest of the day off lol. Amazing country tho and the people are the nicest than anywhere in the world.