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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Milky Bar Kid on March 29, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
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Got my scoop in the pro direct sale. Ordered a light but got a 2.10 which is slightly too heavy for me. Is there any way I can improve the pick up without altering performance. Sorry if this has been posted before, couldn't find anything on it.
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Take a little bit of wood off the toe with a plane. Or send it to one of the Forum Sponsors and get a professional weight reduction and re-balancing ;)
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Down the gym ;)
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You can make a counter weight at the top of the handle using lead tape. Be warned that this may alter the 'middle' of the bat.
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Counter balance, put an extra grip on the handle to improve pick up, or simply use it more as it will feel lighter when you are used to it. Failing that send it back for a lighter version.
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You can make a counter weight at the top of the handle using lead tape. Be warned that this may alter the 'middle' of the bat.
Ah now this is interesting. It will alter the 'PLV' (Point of Least Vibrations) which is what feels like the middle, but the 'PBR' (Point of Best Rebound) will not be changed by such counter-weights.
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Ah now this is interesting. It will alter the 'PLV' (Point of Least Vibrations) which is what feels like the middle, but the 'PBR' (Point of Best Rebound) will not be changed by such counter-weights.
What are you talking about?
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Thanks for the responses guys. Already got two grips on it because I hate the thin handle.
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What are you talking about?
Adding weight to the top of the bat makes the middle feel higher up but it is actually not.
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Just as a FYI the techie terms are coefficient of percussion (vibration) and coefficient of restitution (rebound)
Think Norbs did an article on whether counterbalances shift middles and the centre of gravity at some point, will have a look.
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Adding weight to the top of the bat makes the middle feel higher up but it is actually not.
Well that goes without saying...!
He doesn't want to alter the weight, he wants to make the bat feel better in his hands and there are ways of doing that as mentioned above, which he can try. And why not.
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Once again thanks for the help. Any advice on a counter balance?
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wheres norbs when you need him or Tim2000 ;)
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Tbh ditch the Scoop! It's theoretically the worst bat for pickup IMO.
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They're having a specil nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
wheres norbs when you need him or Tim2000 ;)
They're having a special nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
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Tbh ditch the Scoop! It's theoretically the worst bat for pickup IMO.
Really, my Scoop picks up lovely! One of the better picking bats for it's size hat I've ever had. Have you got one that picks up crap?
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They're having a specil nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
They're having a special nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
hahahaha we could be waiting a while
i fear the response may crash the server ;)
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Want this as my match bat this year. Just a shame it's an ounce or so too heavy.
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They're having a specil nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
They're having a special nerd-in with each other, and carefully preparing their response!
hahaha
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Contact PDC and explain them, they'll offer you something :)
Norbs and Tim waiting for you guys :D
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ll the responses to the thread have certainly made me laugh.
With the scoop, possibly more than others, I'd suggest the pro approach, and by that go to GN as they at least know the bat and the prices are OK.
The suggestions that others have made will all help pickup and increase weight.
Your other alternative is sell this one and buy a lighter one...?
If you want to have a go at reducing weight you can but you will probably affect rebound and pickup, and not necessarily well...
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^ Why not just go to PDC who can replace and give lighter one for FOC?
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^ Why not just go to PDC who can replace and give lighter one for FOC?
That's always an option though pdc may not be that helpful depending on what you ordered. Don't ask, though, and you don't get...
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Well I ordered a Scoop from them, came in 2.11 whereas I ordered in 'Light' weight, contacted them they send ship us back. They covered international postage up to £40 but in my case it was £60ish so they just said we'll refund you shipping and 10% so can't complain :)
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Hi all
I have been reading this thread with great interest, as right now I am in the same quandary with the L&W I purchased earlier this year. I ask for a 2.7 and received as 2.8 3/4, which in most cases would have been ok. But the bat is just so bottom heavy it feels more like a 2.12/2.13. I can not see myself using it at all.
Having played about with lead tape I am now considering having the back reshaped. The problem is, what if it comes back and I am still unhappy, I have just ruined an expensive bat?
What make the whole situation worse, is my good friend Rob received his L&W this week. He asked for a 2.9 and received a 2.8 with a fantastic pick up, where as mine feels like someone has strapped a brick to the bottom of it.
My other options are to sell the bat, or try and send it back to L&W in NZ.
I really do not know what to do.
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Hi all
I have been reading this thread with great interest, as right now I am in the same quandary with the L&W I purchased earlier this year. I ask for a 2.7 and received as 2.8 3/4, which in most cases would have been ok. But the bat is just so bottom heavy it feels more like a 2.12/2.13. I can not see myself using it at all.
Having played about with lead tape I am now considering having the back reshaped. The problem is, what if it comes back and I am still unhappy, I have just ruined an expensive bat?
What make the whole situation worse, is my good friend Rob received his L&W this week. He asked for a 2.9 and received a 2.8 with a fantastic pick up, where as mine feels like someone has strapped a brick to the bottom of it.
My other options are to sell the bat, or try and send it back to L&W in NZ.
I really do not know what to do.
There is people other than L&W who can do a rebalancing of the bat.
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If You are unhappy with what you have received you should go directly to Laver and wood. They are generally pleased to help and customer service is very important to them.
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Tim
I have contacted Andy when I received the bat, he was very understanding. Maybe I will drop him an email later.
jason
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Really, my Scoop picks up lovely! One of the better picking bats for it's size hat I've ever had. Have you got one that picks up crap?
same my 2.9 was a jem
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I wouldnt advise in having weight reduction done on a scoop.
for me you have 3 options...
1) send it back and get a replacement
2) sell it on the forum
3) use it, i'm sure you'll get used to the different pick up. if not see option 2
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same my 2.9 was a jem
LOL....ANY 2'9 picks up well ;)
I've picked one up and it confirmed my suspicions that it would theoretically have an awful pickup as it's all 'edge'. I wouldn;t be surprised if there's a few good uns though.
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Why would "all edge" make for an awful pick up? I thought that generally pick up was only affected by weight distribution along the length of the blade rather than the width?
I've picked up a few at different weights and all have felt pretty good
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A counter balance may shift the techie middle of bat and change its hitting feel, but if the middle is fairly long anyway it wont be too much trouble. As the counter balance is removable it is worth trying it as an option if it does work for you no harm done!
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Why would "all edge" make for an awful pick up? I thought that generally pick up was only affected by weight distribution along the length of the blade rather than the width?
I've picked up a few at different weights and all have felt pretty good
On any given bat, it's been my experience that thin edged ones pick up better. They're more of an axe than paddle!
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On any given bat, it's been my experience that thin edged ones pick up better. They're more of an axe than paddle!
Interesting, norbs what is the technical viewpoint on this one please?
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At the end for the day pickup is about weight distribution throughout the blade but pickup is only a small part of you swing.
Maybe Dan is an opener and attempts to see off the quicks and get few runs also
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Thanks for the reply. Doubt PDC will do anything now, I've put on some shoo goo (tip I've learnt from the forum and for what its worth in my opinion it's the best toe guard). The pick up is blinding it just feels a touch too heavy. Probably have to hit the gym.
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Maybe Dan is an opener
We've never met have we :D ;)