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Title: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: tushar sehgal on July 26, 2012, 06:11:22 PM
So how many of you would like Paul to allow us to use the CBF30 code again? If you are regretting not what you puchased but the fact that you are not being able take advantage of the discount code again as some lovely gear is arriving at IJC and you have already used the code then post here :)

Thanks for the idea Paul :D
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on July 26, 2012, 07:02:25 PM
I could be persuaded  ;)
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Alvaro on July 26, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
You can have too much of a good thing. I think the one-off 30% offer is a generous one in the first place.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: roco on July 26, 2012, 08:06:03 PM
I'd be tempted as only ordered a bag
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Dan W on July 26, 2012, 08:08:14 PM
I think it was outrageously generous in the first place - especially ordering stock in for some people to then use the discount!

Think it's a step to far to ask for it again. Maybe he'll do it next year - just remember to fill your bags next time!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Johnny on July 26, 2012, 08:11:54 PM
It strikes me as being a bit like 'deal or not deal' and some guys have possibly dealt a bit too early
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Abighugeappl on July 26, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
I think this is very generous! However if there was going to be a Double Dip then there should be a lower discount, say 20% or 15%
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on July 26, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
Let me get this straight, you're starting a petition to get Paul to sell you gear at the price YOU want?

I was under the impression he ran a business not a charity?
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: FvanN on July 26, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
An old saying springs to mind...

'Give them an inch and they will want a mile'  or something like that...

I missed out on the offer as I wanted to try on helmets before I buy and will be off to GSM in the morning to do so....

great offer but he is not running a charity... Just wait for the end of season sales... ;)
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Tom on July 26, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
I think a smaller discount of say 15% would be great for both parties. The 30% discount is the best sale I've ever seen on here, it makes almost everything 50% and very close to trade price.

IJC are a start up cricket retailer, who seem to offer great customer service and interract fantastically with their customers through the forum. I wouldn't mind paying that little bit more to support them, and keep them going.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: A-Swing-And-A-Miss on July 26, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
An old saying springs to mind...

'Give them an inch and they will want a mile'  or something like that...

I missed out on the offer as I wanted to try on helmets before I buy and will be off to GSM in the morning to do so....

great offer but he is not running a charity... Just wait for the end of season sales... ;)

The offer ends on the 12th of August so you still have plenty of time, the people who are asking for another discount are those that have used their discount now want more stuff.

There is no harm in asking IJC for some more discount, aslong as he is selling the products for more than he is buying them for then everybody wins. He is doing us a favour selling them cheaper than we would get them for and we are doing him a favour by improving his cash flow.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on July 26, 2012, 09:04:29 PM
I think a smaller discount of say 15% would be great for both parties. The 30% discount is the best sale I've ever seen on here, it makes almost everything 50% and very close to trade price.

IJC are a start up cricket retailer, who seem to offer great customer service and interract fantastically with their customers through the forum. I wouldn't mind paying that little bit more to support them, and keep them going.

Thanks, Tom - appreciate the support and this is a lot closer to what I had in mind actually.  It's intriguing to see everyone's views though.  I can see where Tushar is coming from, especially as new stock is coming in that wasn't on offer before, but there was a reason we made it a one-use only code in the first place.  If we get more 'double dippers' crying out for more, I may consider a smaller discount.  I would rather see how this thread pans out first though...
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Johnny on July 26, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
...now the banker is offering a swap
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: alba caerulea on July 26, 2012, 09:23:49 PM
Surely this is a wind up? A 30% sale and still people want more! Certainly the best sale I have ever seen on anything other than unwanted tat. You had your chance people, now get your money out.



Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Chad on July 26, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Please don't do it Paul! I can't afford to buy anymore gear! :(

Jokes aside, I am sure it would be a bit of a strain on Paul, so it would be unfair to ask him to do it again. I like the idea Tom put forward, like a smaller discount of like 10 or 15%, but Paul has really done enough for the forum, offering 30% off your entire order, no? 8)
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: junter97 on July 26, 2012, 10:28:08 PM
This is so cheeky! I love it! Fair play on Paul for doing it once, if you do it twice Paul, wow!!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: tushar sehgal on July 26, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
So here is a question for everyone saying its a business and not charity. If i purchased a bat today and then went back to purchase a bat tomorrow then how is that hurting Paul more than me buying both bats the same day?

And whats stopping me from asking someone to buy for me for a small financial gain? instead i decided i would ask rather than cheat the system.

Also Paul dont worry about it mate, I was just tempted but if I see something i like i will pay regular price for it

Also thanks for generous offer i do really appreciate it. Wasn't asking for a bigger discount like some posts suggest but instead to be able to buy more stuff with current offer.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on July 27, 2012, 05:09:32 AM
I don't see what the problem is. I was after a bat, it was sold b4 Paul had a chance to sale it to me. At the time he wasn't expecting to order anymore in. I order a set of softs on this info. I think the amount of sales generated & the probably overwhelming orders and interest for certain products means it's more viable for him to order in as he will make sales. Ok his profit margins are smaller than they would of been but I expect most of us bought the gear just for the sake of it. If Paul decides to let people order again then that's upto him. As we are into old sayings then here's one "if you don't ask you don't get"
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Number4 on July 27, 2012, 06:29:28 AM
The offer ends on the 12th of August so you still have plenty of time, the people who are asking for another discount are those that have used their discount now want more stuff.

There is no harm in asking IJC for some more discount, aslong as he is selling the products for more than he is buying them for then everybody wins. He is doing us a favour selling them cheaper than we would get them for and we are doing him a favour by improving his cash flow.

That would be nice but t doesn't work like that... You have to take into account the cost of overheads too... e.g lease/rent, electricity, labour, freight + cost of goods. So it's is more than just selling it for more than you buy it for, if it was it would be easy to make money.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: 97 n.o. on July 27, 2012, 07:15:15 AM
The guy has done an amazing deal to thank members of the Forum- to ask for more just seems greedy.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on July 27, 2012, 07:32:33 AM
OK, having slept on this, the decision has been made: NO DOUBLE DIPPING.

Tushar, I think you were right to ask the question, and I don't actually think it's greedy to have done so.  However, as it is, our (minimal) resource is stretched to the absolute limit to fulfil all the orders anyway - especially the knocking in - and if we're offering 30% but taking 2-3 weeks to send everything out, it all seems a bit pointless to me.  The last thing we want is to become another Pro Direct!  :D

Had there been an overwhelming majority wanting to double dip, I may have felt differently, so I was curious to check all the responses, but it seems like the majority is actually against it, which has made this decision a lot easier...
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: tim2000s on July 27, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
To be fair, when I saw the title of this thread, the subject was not what occurred to me... :-[
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ajmw89 on July 27, 2012, 07:43:48 AM
To be fair, when I saw the title of this thread, the subject was not what occurred to me... :-[
This
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: 97 n.o. on July 27, 2012, 07:55:03 AM
OK, having slept on this, the decision has been made: NO DOUBLE DIPPING.

Tushar, I think you were right to ask the question, and I don't actually think it's greedy to have done so.  However, as it is, our (minimal) resource is stretched to the absolute limit to fulfil all the orders anyway - especially the knocking in - and if we're offering 30% but taking 2-3 weeks to send everything out, it all seems a bit pointless to me.  The last thing we want is to become another Pro Direct!  :D

Had there been an overwhelming majority wanting to double dip, I may have felt differently, so I was curious to check all the responses, but it seems like the majority is actually against it, which has made this decision a lot easier...

The right choice! If people are wanting more kit, order it from IJC at full price. This supports a Forum Sponsor who has been incredibly generous, and technically you get 15% off both orders, still a good saving.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on July 27, 2012, 08:07:29 AM
To be fair, when I saw the title of this thread, the subject was not what occurred to me... :-[

Lol I do wonder how many more responses could have been generated had Tushar simply decided on a different, more obvious title!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: johnnyw on July 27, 2012, 08:40:53 AM
There is also still 10% off pads and gloves on the website if people really want another discount
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: petehosk on July 27, 2012, 09:58:12 AM
Or 30% off for those of us more patient people who haven't made an order!  8)
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Simmy on July 27, 2012, 10:09:45 AM
i have no idea what this thread is about i am very confused...

where is my 30% off? lol

ps i need a new bag lol
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: junter97 on July 27, 2012, 10:12:27 AM
Simmy!! http://184.154.5.91/cbforum/index.php?topic=18698.0
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: petehosk on July 27, 2012, 10:13:10 AM
i have no idea what this thread is about i am very confused...

where is my 30% off? lol

Where you been hiding Simmy?
It's Just Cricket offer a limited time (one off) 30% discount on a purchase...bat, pads, gloves, or whatever!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Simmy on July 27, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
grr only works over £40!

bag i want is £37 quid before vat £44 after but wont let me use it :(
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Alvaro on July 27, 2012, 10:19:20 AM
Buy a grip!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Simmy on July 27, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
ill get some keeping inners jobs agood one! dont get paid till tuesday but thats amazing discount!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: tushar sehgal on July 27, 2012, 11:53:29 AM
OK, having slept on this, the decision has been made: NO DOUBLE DIPPING.

Tushar, I think you were right to ask the question, and I don't actually think it's greedy to have done so.  However, as it is, our (minimal) resource is stretched to the absolute limit to fulfil all the orders anyway - especially the knocking in - and if we're offering 30% but taking 2-3 weeks to send everything out, it all seems a bit pointless to me.  The last thing we want is to become another Pro Direct!  :D

Had there been an overwhelming majority wanting to double dip, I may have felt differently, so I was curious to check all the responses, but it seems like the majority is actually against it, which has made this decision a lot easier...

Thanks Paul and I do appreciate you atleast considering. Let us know when some M&H gear is in would be looking for another bat as my match bat has decided to crack at the shoulder.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on July 27, 2012, 12:22:26 PM
Or 30% off for those of us more patient people who haven't made an order!  8)

Well said, Pete - good things come to those who wait!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on July 27, 2012, 12:25:11 PM
ill get some keeping inners jobs agood one! dont get paid till tuesday but thats amazing discount!

Lol better late than never, Simmy! And glad you've managed to find your £40 worth! Any other CBF members who have just returned from the moon and are blissfully unaware of the offer?!  :D
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: A-Swing-And-A-Miss on July 27, 2012, 06:16:41 PM
That would be nice but t doesn't work like that... You have to take into account the cost of overheads too... e.g lease/rent, electricity, labour, freight + cost of goods. So it's is more than just selling it for more than you buy it for, if it was it would be easy to make money.

If he buys something for £10(including shipping) and then sells it for £11 after giving the 30% discount then gains £1 which he can use to help pay the rent, electricity bills etc.

I'm not saying it is easy to make money however selling 1 item at a 30% discount is far more beneficial to IJC then not selling anything(aslong as he sells the product for more than he payed for it including shipping).
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Number4 on July 28, 2012, 04:00:08 AM
If he buys something for £10(including shipping) and then sells it for £11 after giving the 30% discount then gains £1 which he can use to help pay the rent, electricity bills etc.

I'm not saying it is easy to make money however selling 1 item at a 30% discount is far more beneficial to IJC then not selling anything(aslong as he sells the product for more than he payed for it including shipping).

Let you in on a little secret I work in Electrical Wholesale and for us to break even we have to make 21% on cost... That's before we even start making a profit. So buying something for $10 and selling it for $11 isn't actually making money. It's not as straight forward as it all seems.
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: trypewriter on August 12, 2012, 03:37:44 AM
I think Paul offered a great discount on here, allowing folk to buy kit that they might have only admired from afar previously. Not only that, he actually ordered new stock where possible to supply demand. Obviously he has a business to run so you can't genuinely expect it to be open ended. As they say in some stores 'when it's gone. it's gone.'
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: Manormanic on August 12, 2012, 08:26:18 AM
Let you in on a little secret I work in Electrical Wholesale and for us to break even we have to make 21% on cost... That's before we even start making a profit. So buying something for $10 and selling it for $11 isn't actually making money. It's not as straight forward as it all seems.

My parents had a retail business and it was pretty similar for them - across the year, the cost of running the business (staff wages, overheads etc) was 25.5% on cost price or 125.5% total, though this would have been much higher had certain "high ticket" items been removed from the equation.  I don't know what the "mark up" is on sporting goods, but their list price tended to be between 190% and 230% of cost price. 

iIf those numbers transferred accross, which I'm not saying they would because the latter figure came from some very lucrative import lines specific to their business, then you'd be talking about 130% and 161% cost respectively.  So on the lower end, you'd be talking pennies in profit...

Of course, there is the argument that this sort of thing generates custom that might not otherwise have existed (I, for example, would be unlikely to consider top of the range M&H bats!) and I can guess at other benefits it may bring, but it remains an offer that is generous to the point of insanity!
Title: Re: Double Dippers Petition
Post by: ItsJustCricket on August 12, 2012, 07:47:12 PM
Cheers for the replies, guys - all interesting stuff.  This offer hasn't been about making profit for us, as many of you will know.  I won't reveal the exact figures, though...  ;)

Three hours left - who's going to be the last of the lastminute.coms?!