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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: alexhilly1492 on July 30, 2012, 09:02:40 AM
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James Taylor has been called into englands test squad for the second test vs south africa, this is a positive move and shows englands depth but surely jonny bairstow should have been given another chance...
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After his inability to play the short ball against windies not surprised he was bypassed. Thought Morgan might get another go after batting well in odis but he failed in last 4 day game whereas Taylor scored runs. Hope that is not the only reason! Wonder what the personal reasons are for bopara it tends to cover a wide range of things.
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I'm sure Bairstow's time will come. Personally I feel they should go with a 5 man attack anyway, so JT might not even get a game
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I think (see hope) that they will pick 5 bowlers, Finn deserves another go on his ODI form alone, but none of the bowlers really deserve to be dropped, and besides Finn will probably contribute as much with the bat as number 6 has done since PC stepped down.
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I'm sure Bairstow's time will come. Personally I feel they should go with a 5 man attack anyway, so JT might not even get a game
At first glance i thought you meant Jonathan Trott wouldn't get a game!
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Will he be allowed to wear his Ayrtek? Or will Masuri and Albion come wading in with their cheque book like usual?
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I think (see hope9 that they will pick 5 bowlers, Finn deserves another go on his ODI form alone, but none of the bowlers really deserve to be dropped, and besides Finn will probably contribute as much with the bat as number 6 has done since PC stepped down.
Paul Collingwood - never fully appreciated in the test line-up until he has gone, the void still hasn't been filled. Good luck to Taylor, I'd be surprised if Flower changed the system now and played 5 bowlers despite us looking toothless in the last test. Come on the English! Level it up and make for a cracking final Test
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Paul Collingwood - never fully appreciated in the test line-up until he has gone, the void still hasn't been filled. Good luck to Taylor, I'd be surprised if Flower changed the system now and played 5 bowlers despite us looking toothless in the last test. Come on the English! Level it up and make for a cracking final Test
Part of me thinks that too, but in selecting Taylor rather than Morgan get the feeling they might just chance it with 5 bowlers, especially as they have to play aggressive cricket now with this being a 3 test series.
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Being South African Morgan would of been the guy out of bairstow and Taylor i would of feared most for scoring big runs and doing some damage in the middle order instead I can see this selection not doing Taylor any favours especially with zero test match exposure facing the best bowling attack in world cricket is a very tough ask even with all the talent he has!
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Will he be allowed to wear his Ayrtek? Or will Masuri and Albion come wading in with their cheque book like usual?
not sure the hampshire based company pay for anybody to wear there lids bar the sponsorship deals already in place might be wrong though
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Being South African Morgan would of been the guy out of bairstow and Taylor i would of feared most for scoring big runs and doing some damage in the middle order instead I can see this selection not doing Taylor any favours especially with zero test match exposure facing the best bowling attack in world cricket is a very tough ask even with all the talent he has!
I tend to agree there slogsweep! Talking about Baptism of Fire!!!
Here's your first test so please do well against one of the quickest and most feared bowling attack in the last 10 or 15 years! Hmmmm!
As much as I admire JT and see that he's in superb form, this will be a serious test! :o
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Jonathan Trott had a handy debut in a deciding Ashes Test...
Put Taylor in - if he's ready then it's down to him to make it count.
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Jonathan Trott had a handy debut in a deciding Ashes Test...
Put Taylor in - if he's ready then it's down to him to make it count.
Trott was older, more experienced and in better form though.
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Trott was older, more experienced and in better form though.
Had been through the same Lions process as Trott - coming off 163* can't be a bad thing.
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not sure the hampshire based company pay for anybody to wear there lids bar the sponsorship deals already in place might be wrong though
Who's the Hampshire based company?
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Masuri uk
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Ahh ok, thought they were situated more up t' north.
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nope same place as chase cricket
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Just Watched the Andy Flower interview on SS1 and JT looks all set to bat at 6 after Flower dismisses the 5 bowler option.
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Could be four seamers and dropping swann
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not sure JT is the answer. Compton is much more consistent and has the experience of playing for a few more years than JT. just think morkels normal length will test him alot! he looks the kind of player who needs to be scoring runs to feel settled. not sure he will get that kind of opportunity to be free scoring
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not sure JT is the answer. Compton is much more consistent and has the experience of playing for a few more years than JT. just think morkels normal length will test him alot! he looks the kind of player who needs to be scoring runs to feel settled. not sure he will get that kind of opportunity to be free scoring
Being South African helps Compton's cause too, surely! Definitely more consistent too. He was a mate of mine at uni, too, if anyone's keeping score! :D Would love to see him get a call-up - if not this test then very soon hopefully...
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listening to the interviews with Flower Taylor will be in for the long term,Bopara whatever problems he has may have cost him a test place.England I think still want Bairstow to come thru.
Taylor I reckon was encouraged to move counties to Div 1 in prep for England.
Compton I dont think will get a call up,runs at Taunton are easier than elsewhere in the Country and England prob take that into consideration.
Taylor has some seious talent but it's a big step up he about to take.
lt's hope he does ok.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-south-africa-2012/content/current/story/574921.html
Yep hes in. Couldn't see Flower picking 5 bowlers to be honest. Good luck lad!
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listening to the interviews with Flower Taylor will be in for the long term,Bopara whatever problems he has may have cost him a test place.England I think still want Bairstow to come thru.
Taylor I reckon was encouraged to move counties to Div 1 in prep for England.
Compton I dont think will get a call up,runs at Taunton are easier than elsewhere in the Country and England prob take that into consideration.
Taylor has some seious talent but it's a big step up he about to take.
lt's hope he does ok.
runs at taunton are no different to runs at the oval for instance. Dont forget he scored runs home and away when seasoned pros like ramps couldnt hit it off the square! People always say runs at taunton are easy but you still have to have the ability and mental strength to score them. if its that easy why isnt every game at taunton a draw as the class batsman on both sides should be racking up hundreds without breaking sweat?
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Yes true,Compton is a good player who has had a great season.He has a poor first class average compared to Taylor and I would'nt compare him to Ramps at 29 which is Compton's age I think.
England I would guess are now starting to look a couple of years in advance at the test side,some of our guys may not be around,KP might deceide he wants 20/20 only come the next round of contract talks,or England might tell him get get lost.
Taylor,Bairstow,Root,vince,maybe Bopara might find there are openings for them where there have been none in the last 3 or 4 years.Strauss won't go on forever...
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I would imagine that Root is a nailed on favourite the replace Struass when his time comes.
Bairstow will come again
Bopora has had his chance and failed... many times so can't see why they would go for him again
1. Root
2. Cook
3. Trott
4. KP
5. Bell
6. Taylor
7. Prior
8. Broad
9. Swann
10. Finn
11. Anderson
Bresnan, Vince, OHB, Stokes etc etc all in the pipeline
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Cook, Bell-Drummond, Taylor, Root, Bairstow, Vince, Buttler, etc! I wonder who will be there in 7 or 8 years time? ;)
And what new names with surface!
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not sure JT is the answer. Compton is much more consistent and has the experience of playing for a few more years than JT. just think morkels normal length will test him alot! he looks the kind of player who needs to be scoring runs to feel settled. not sure he will get that kind of opportunity to be free scoring
Not at all, fair to say you've got JT wrong there mate! Followed him since he started, and he's the kind of guy who is happy to go at his own pace, He's not like (for example) Jason Roy who gets bogged down and then plays big/rash shots, Taylor gets his head down and plays the way he knows. Compton isn't as consistent, he's just having one really, REALLY good season, whereas Taylor has averaged 40+ for 4 seasons now. He also plays very well off the back foot, as he picks up the length well, as most shorter batsmen do.
Also, to add to people's future cricketers, Ollie Rayner for a spinner. Class act!
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Taylor also performs very well on TV which is something quite hard to to coach I think, you've either got it or you haven't.
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ollie raynor? are you being serious. average doesnt quite cover it!
dont get me wrong JT is a good player but i dont think he is good enough. ive seen him bat a couple of times and wasnt stunned. i havent really tracked his career but batting for leics against div 2 attack obviously flatters his stats a touch. reports early season were saying he was pretty average against the moving ball. remember either against somerset or possibly warks he was out caught behind trying to whip an outswinger into the midwicket stand. failed to realised it had been boomeranging outswingers all day! says to me he needs to be scoring rather than digging in. especially when your teams in trouble!
He has his chance but i think he will be found out against the SA attack. Morkel and steyn will give him a good working over. I hope for englands sake thats not the case but i guess time will tell.
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ollie raynor? are you being serious. average doesnt quite cover it!
dont get me wrong JT is a good player but i dont think he is good enough. ive seen him bat a couple of times and wasnt stunned. i havent really tracked his career but batting for leics against div 2 attack obviously flatters his stats a touch. reports early season were saying he was pretty average against the moving ball. remember either against somerset or possibly warks he was out caught behind trying to whip an outswinger into the midwicket stand. failed to realised it had been boomeranging outswingers all day! says to me he needs to be scoring rather than digging in. especially when your teams in trouble!
He has his chance but i think he will be found out against the SA attack. Morkel and steyn will give him a good working over. I hope for englands sake thats not the case but i guess time will tell.
He's not the only person that struggled early season, heck Compton was probably the ONLY person that didn't, and even the man himself was at a loss to explain it! Cook, Strauss, Bopara, Morgan got into England's side on the back of Div 2 performances, and the first 2 haven't disappointed. And he has scored runs this season, AND for the Lions side too. Also missed out for Leics, as he played for the side with possibly the worst attack in the division (save Claude Henderson, but he's a solid player of spin). I reckon he'll do well. Might not click in his first innings at test level, but then again most rarely do.
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He's not the only person that struggled early season, heck Compton was probably the ONLY person that didn't, and even the man himself was at a loss to explain it! Cook, Strauss, Bopara, Morgan got into England's side on the back of Div 2 performances, and the first 2 haven't disappointed. And he has scored runs this season, AND for the Lions side too. Also missed out for Leics, as he played for the side with possibly the worst attack in the division (save Claude Henderson, but he's a solid player of spin). I reckon he'll do well. Might not click in his first innings at test level, but then again most rarely do.
fair enough. just my thoughts on the subject. as i said for englands sake i hope he does do well.
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Aside from thinking that he is an excellent player, he's obviously been groomed into this position for a few years with the Lion's captaincy etc. He also had no real rival for the spot, Bairstow is out of favour and Compton has had one good season and needs to prove himself.
For what its worth I think Bairstow's problem with the short ball was exaggerated, the skiddy bouncers of Roach and Edwards would trouble most test batsmen, nevermind a novice
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Spoke to titch on weds and think he had the nod then but wasn't allowed to officially say, wish him good luck tomorrow.
Fully kitted out with his lid :)
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well done tom
oh congratulations hope wedding went well bud
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Cheers mate, back from honeymoon as of 2 hours ago and trying to wangle a bit of work catch up before I get caught lol
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hope you enjoyed your honeymoon mate, congrats again on the marriage