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Title: County ins and outs
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on September 14, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
With yesterdays news of RHB leaving for pastures new i thought it would be an idea to set up a ins and outs page to keep up with the latest developments.

Looks like Brooks in leaving Northants in search of trophies and international honours. dont blame him really as northants is going down hill. they have pulled their academy out of the northants prem as they cant afford to run it.

Mr tomtek as you sponsor him - any news where hes going?

anyone else know any ins or out?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on September 14, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
Surrey

Outs

Chris Jordan ( Released )
Tom Lancefield  ( Released )
RHB ( Not Confirmed Yet)
Spriegal ( Northants)

Ins

Solanki
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 14, 2012, 04:18:00 PM
Text him today asking him to keep me updated on what clobber he will need, think its a bit early for him to reveal his move yet as obscure he's found a club yet but would presume he is looking for div 1 cricket.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: norbs on September 14, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
Right Hand Bat?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 14, 2012, 07:15:01 PM
Brooksy is yes
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on September 14, 2012, 09:09:58 PM
well James Harris will go to Notts or, more likely, Yorks.  Brooks will probably go to the other.

I heard Jordan was interesting Lancashire, but if they are going to sign Shahzad then that would probably depend on Mahmood finding someone to take on his contract...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on September 14, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
Harris has been mentioned for Somerset
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Mortimer on September 14, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
well James Harris will go to Notts or, more likely, Yorks.  Brooks will probably go to the other.

I heard Jordan was interesting Lancashire, but if they are going to sign Shahzad then that would probably depend on Mahmood finding someone to take on his contract...


According to this, Mahmood is out of contract at the end of this season:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/579665.html
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 14, 2012, 10:38:02 PM
Both Harris and Brooks are prominent in the England Lions squad as bowlers so will want to be playing a decent standard next season to try and ensure they remain in the cross hairs of the England selectors.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Bruce on September 15, 2012, 11:29:08 AM
I wouldn't sign Mahmood.
I've seen Mahmood bowl many a time, twice in the Big Bash and he is dreadful. What his thought process is I don't know!

Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 28, 2012, 07:09:17 AM
After being relased b y surrey rory hamilton brown has returned to sussex ona  three year deal:

http://www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/rhb-rory-hamilton-brown-returns-to-sussex
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: alexhilly1492 on September 28, 2012, 07:10:41 AM
also did i read somewhere that jack brooks has signed for yorkshire?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on September 28, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
Correct, brooksy to Yorkshire and harris to Middlesex
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Mr Dinos on September 28, 2012, 08:37:10 AM
Niall O Brien to leics
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Vantage_Cricket on September 28, 2012, 09:06:41 AM
After being relased b y surrey rory hamilton brown has returned to sussex ona  three year deal:

[url]http://www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/rhb-rory-hamilton-brown-returns-to-sussex[/url]


Big signing for Sussex. Didn't realise that JB had announced that he's gone to Yorks - Another good bowler in their ranks.

When are worcester going to sign anyone?

They've lost some big names in the batting department and it seems they're going down the youth line - there's only so much of that I can take!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Kieron_BT on September 30, 2012, 11:11:10 AM
Liam Plunkett to Yorkshire according to BBC sport
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on September 30, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
ho hum...would be very surprised by that one.  Glad we signed Brooks, even if I would have preferred Harris but Plunkett...whilst he is a Tyke and therefore welcome, Im not sure where we would use him!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: ajmw89 on October 12, 2012, 06:06:03 AM
http://www.kiaoval.com/surrey-sign-gary-keedy/
Surrey sign gary keedy- can't help but feel this is just an end of career payday for him...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: uknsaunders on October 12, 2012, 07:15:39 AM
Sounds like either Lancs 2nd XI cricket or Surrey. Surrey won't be asking Kartik back now.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on October 12, 2012, 07:17:31 AM
shazad has signed for notts so he can get top div cc games. really glad somerset didnt go down that route.

and talking of somerset they have signed chris taylor as fielding coach.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 08:08:32 AM
Is Chris Adams mental?
Ha ha ha. Lewis, Solanki and Keedy? He's turning the KIA Oval into a retirement home!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: ajmw89 on October 12, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
If you were the players and surrey offered you what is essentially your retirement paycheck, you wouldn't say no, would you?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
Of course not! Just a strange strategy. I'm not saying it's the players' fault for taking the cash.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 09:03:29 AM
I see both sides of that - Surrey do not have a genuinely top class wicket taking spinner (Batty is good for blocking up an end but has no great strike rate in FC cricket) and have tended to go for overseas options over the past few years, which have usually tended to be available for a few weeks then off again.  Keedy is a quality bowler and, with sensible treatment, will have two to three seasons of FC cricket left in him (less convinced he'll last that long if he plays all the hita nd giggle stuff).  So he is a reliable part of their team for a period of time.

For Keedy I suspect it was more than just the paycheck - at Lancashire he was second pick to Simon Kerrigan and possibly also behind Steve Parry.  At Surrey he'll play most every game.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: uknsaunders on October 12, 2012, 09:39:28 AM
I also believe the ECB's stance on awarding grants based on the number of players under 28? and qualified for england probably had a bearing on Lancashire's decision.

The problem with many decent spinners is they don't mature until late 20's/early 30s. If Surrey have 2 young spinners then it could be years before they are ready.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: mr_wickets on October 12, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
billy Godleman to Derby. Could be a good signing. What a talent when he was younger, hopefully he can find some form there and start making big runs!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 09:47:10 AM
Derby, whilst lucky to go up and to do so as CXhampions, played some good cricket last year and have the opportunity next season to give lie to the assumption that the smaller counties should be allowed to wither and die.  Godleman could be a part of that.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: uknsaunders on October 12, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
Wainwright was a good buy, never got a proper go at Yorks.

It's something Essex use to be good at, picking up players other counties didn't want and getting more out of them. Irani was one such example.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: 19reading87 on October 12, 2012, 10:03:05 AM
Richard Johnson to Derby also
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 10:12:35 AM
Aunty was indeed a good pick up for Derbyshire - he was a really wholehearted gutsy performer for Yorkshire and the vast majority of fans were sorry to see him go, even whilst accepting that it was probably for the best given that we had Rashid, Rafiq and several youngsters on the books.  He turned in some really excellent performances in crucial situations for us, but his bowling tailed off a bit after a winter witht he England Lions - now how often do you hear that?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 10:33:06 AM
Wainwright was a good buy, never got a proper go at Yorks.

It's something Essex use to be good at, picking up players other counties didn't want and getting more out of them. Irani was one such example.

Essex are now awful at recruitment/player management - think of the highly rated players who have left to go on to much better things:
Varun Chopra
Chris Wright
Stephen Peters
Tony Palladino (for other reasons, more than likely)
Now Godleman...

Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
I see both sides of that - Surrey do not have a genuinely top class wicket taking spinner (Batty is good for blocking up an end but has no great strike rate in FC cricket) and have tended to go for overseas options over the past few years, which have usually tended to be available for a few weeks then off again.  Keedy is a quality bowler and, with sensible treatment, will have two to three seasons of FC cricket left in him (less convinced he'll last that long if he plays all the hita nd giggle stuff).  So he is a reliable part of their team for a period of time.

For Keedy I suspect it was more than just the paycheck - at Lancashire he was second pick to Simon Kerrigan and possibly also behind Steve Parry.  At Surrey he'll play most every game.

I see the sense in taking Keedy, but Solanki? I suppose he'll be nice and close to the PCA office...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: uknsaunders on October 12, 2012, 10:51:04 AM
I suppose they've lost 2 batsman and are working out how best to replace them. Maybe Adams feels Solanki will bring a bit of experience and that's what is needed. Since Ramps enjoyed a bit of a golden autumn in his late 30's why can't Solanki? I suppose the other upside is it won't hinder the progress of young batsman breaking into the team in the long term.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 10:52:50 AM
I see the sense in taking Keedy, but Solanki? I suppose he'll be nice and close to the PCA office...

Yeah, I'm not entirely certain about that one - but I can see why they wanted to add one more batsman to a unit that features young talent in Harinath, Ansari and Roy, the veteran de Bruyn, Pietersen if he is not required by England and then an array of wicketkeeper batsmen.   

Thing is, they've let strong young batsmen go and brought in a guy who is two to three years past his best...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on October 12, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
Surrey badly need some experience in their batting line up. I think, of the players available to them, Solanki is a pretty decent choice. I think he'll do well at the Oval....

If you look at the Surrey squad, you could only really call Steven Davies 'experienced' of the batters. And he's only 25! In fact, other than Jason Roy they look very, very light in the batting department, experienced or not, with the sad loss of Maynard and RHB....


Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 11:55:45 AM
Jason Roy is a moron. Solanki's form for Worcs doesn't suggest the same kind of Indian summer.

I think they should have looked at someone nearer 30 who could open the batting with Rory Burns, rather than a fading force in Solanki.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 12:01:05 PM
The problem is there do not appear to many such performers about, which is odd given the relatively high stock of decent bowlers moving counties this winter.  There were rumours that they would offer Anthony McGrath a big payday, but he is not much better than Slogdonkey in the age/slippage regard.  I also wondered whether they might have a relatively marquee overseas player lined up to bat in the top three?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on October 12, 2012, 12:04:17 PM
They might still have a marquee batsman to unveil I guess? they've always tended to go for bowlers though...maybe the signing of whatshisface, the spinner, means they are looking at signing an overseas batsman instead?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 12:05:05 PM
Well, the Graeme Smith story seemed like it was PR. Can't remember off the top of my head how many Tests he needs to play before leading SA in 100; he may be tempted then.
It's true that Keedy's signing make an overseas spinner unliekly, so an overseas opener may be a good shout. Chris Rogers has already said no.

Surely Mags is only ever going to play for Yorkshire?

Strange man Chris Adams.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
Surely Mags is only ever going to play for Yorkshire?

Strange man Chris Adams.

Judas is an idiot, he really is - his not coming to Yorkshire was the best thing that ever happened to us!

As for Mags...well, he is out of contract this year and I don't get the sense that he is rushing to sign another one with us, which suggests thathe has at least half an eye ona  big money deal elsewhere.  Bear in mind that Yorkshire are not the highest payers in the county game anyway and that he is no longer an automatic choice for their First Xi and you can sort of see the logic behind his thinking...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 12:13:35 PM
Judas is an idiot, he really is - his not coming to Yorkshire was the best thing that ever happened to us!

As for Mags...well, he is out of contract this year and I don't get the sense that he is rushing to sign another one with us, which suggests thathe has at least half an eye ona  big money deal elsewhere.  Bear in mind that Yorkshire are not the highest payers in the county game anyway and that he is no longer an automatic choice for their First Xi and you can sort of see the logic behind his thinking...

All I really understand about the Mags situ is what I heard Dave Callaghan talking about on t'radio.
I got the feeling that he understood his lot and fancied another crack at Div 1, he certainly played well to ensure promotiion. That may have been partly to do with the old pro in him.
if what you say is the case then I would rule out Lanky ;)
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
All I really understand about the Mags situ is what I heard Dave Callaghan talking about on t'radio.
I got the feeling that he understood his lot and fancied another crack at Div 1, he certainly played well to ensure promotiion. That may have been partly to do with the old pro in him.
if what you say is the case then I would rule out Lanky ;)

Oh, I rate Mags very highly - especially as an extra seamer batting six or seven rather than at three in the order - and respect his performances under pressure in 2012.  I don't want Yorkshire to lose him at all, but I am realistic about the fact that he may make considerably more money elsewhere than he will with Yorkshire in 2013, perhaps attracting better career opportunities in the process.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
All good points. Thinking about it, I wonder if Derbyshire may dig deep for him.
Still a better bat and bowler than Pyrah too.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: lastmanstand on October 12, 2012, 12:31:37 PM

yorks may not pay as much for him but surely he's not too far away from a benefit? Or is that not done at Yorks?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
He's already had one I think.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/yorkshire/content/story/366741.html
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
He has had one. 

As regards Pyrah, I think Richie is the better seamer of the two - he struggled a bit with injury in 2012 which hampered his pace.  Thing is, neither are in the "best" Yorkshire XI, even without an overseas:

Lyth
Root
Jacques
Gale
Bairstow
Ballance
Bresnan
Rashid
Rafiq
Sidebottom
Brooks

Still leaves Sayers, Mags, Maniac, Hodd, Plunkett, Patterson, Ashraf in reserve...

I might have a tenner on us for the Chapionship next season! 
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on October 12, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
What about Gale's mateWardlaw? :D
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: uknsaunders on October 12, 2012, 02:39:44 PM
might not see much of bairstow, bresnan or root.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on October 12, 2012, 05:54:53 PM
might not see much of bairstow, bresnan or root.

We shouldn't but I suspect we will - Bresnan will be the scapegoat to get Finn in the side, whilst I wonder whether Root and JB willl be competing with Nick Compton for one place in the reintegration era (I'm pretty sure that Morgan's face "fits")
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: cricketbadger on October 13, 2012, 07:18:27 PM
very very suprised we'v signed Plunkett, do we need him? just signed Brooks
with patterson and ashraf having good seasons last year, and bresnan hopefully playing more
Hodd did a very good job glad he has signed
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on December 19, 2012, 09:49:04 AM
Michael Klinger to captain Gloucestershire next year, expect some young Aussies to follow him over.

Also Rehman resigns for Somerset. The recreation drug based puns were out of control on Somerset's FB page haha


http://m.facebook.com/SomersetCricketClub?id=55429345517&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fen-gb.facebook.com%2FSomersetCricketClub&_rdr
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on December 19, 2012, 09:51:51 AM
Klinger to captain Gloucestershire i thought.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on December 19, 2012, 09:54:58 AM
Klinger to captain Gloucestershire i thought.

I Read it too fast sorry ha
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Vantage_Cricket on December 19, 2012, 09:56:20 AM
I thought Worcs had finally done some business this summer.

Looks like Klinger has gone to gloucs.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on December 19, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
Klinger is a decent signing for a county like Gloucestershire.  Not sure he'll bring anyone with him mind!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on December 19, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
I hope this frees up Gidman (A) to get back to scoring runs ...
Nice to see a proper overseas rather than some no-mark Kiwi.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on December 19, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Hmmm...if Williamson were available for a whole year I think you'd have taken him over Klinger (who is, after a all, a no-mark Aussie!)
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on December 19, 2012, 11:26:06 AM
Could never understand why Marshall was playing ahead of the youth players. Bracewell must've owed him one or something. Williamson was ok wasn't he?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on December 19, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
Wierd thing is, Marshall looked okay in Test crickt when he was younger, cannot really work out what happened there!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on December 19, 2012, 11:31:20 AM
Wierd thing is, Marshall looked okay in Test crickt when he was younger, cannot really work out what happened there!

Could've been James Marshall in disguise for all we know...
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on December 19, 2012, 11:33:47 AM
Could've been James Marshall in disguise for all we know...

LOL
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on December 19, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
Klinger did okay for the Pears.
Rob Nicol should not be allowed anywhere near the county again...
Williamson looks brilliant getting to 20.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on December 19, 2012, 11:52:21 AM
Klinger did okay for the Pears.
Rob Nicol should not be allowed anywhere near the county again...
Williamson looks brilliant getting to 20.

Weren't Klinger and Harris (the other redbacks opener) pretty prolific in the one day stuff in aus?
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on December 19, 2012, 11:55:39 AM
Klinger has been a very good Shield player since his move to Adelaide. There was talk of him replacing Langer or Hayden when they retired. He would have been the first Jewish player to represent Australia.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: The_Bird on March 08, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
Joe Burns signs for Leicestershire for 4 months and the now retired Samaraweera for Worcestershire. I Didn't realise how good his test stats were, bit of a legend really!!
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Alvaro on March 08, 2013, 11:27:59 AM
Re: Thilan - especially after being shot on the bus in Pak after scoring two consecutive 200s!

He was much stronger on the Subcontinent, but they're still very good stats. I suppose he was in the shade of Kumar and Jayawardene for most of his career.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Manormanic on March 08, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
his form didn't really travel as well as the other great Sirils, largely because his footwork, especiall y in the early part of his career, was more or less non existant.
Title: Re: County ins and outs
Post by: Burdy on March 09, 2013, 02:27:00 PM
Joe Burns signs for Leicestershire for 4 months and the now retired Samaraweera for Worcestershire. I Didn't realise how good his test stats were, bit of a legend really!!

Joe is a decent bat and will score a few I bet for Leicestershire. Our club had the chance to sign Joe last season, but would only be available for 10 - 13 games, so our chairman thought it would not be a good idea  >:(