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Title: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Wide Chaser on December 26, 2012, 10:13:53 AM
Aimed at the bat makers or anyone in the know..... What would it cost a company to get their bat in the hands of an England Player? Would it be financially worth it in terms of the sponsorship deal and sales following...?
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Buzz on December 26, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
well you ask the likes of Sparten how much they think Michael Clarke is worth and that will go some way to answering your question...
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Tom on December 26, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
£20k+ for an established bowler. £100k+ for a batsman.

And if the player stays fit, bats well, scores runs then it can be financially viable. But it's a gamble.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 26, 2012, 12:46:48 PM
Serious money is the long and short of it; especially if you're looking to lure someone to a new and untried brand such as, erm, New Balance...
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: jimster on December 26, 2012, 12:59:49 PM
does this generally mean that test batsmen make more money than bowlers?
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: ammo on December 27, 2012, 12:13:06 AM
i believe that that guide would be for county players National players get payed quite a bit more.

Bowlers get endorsements from shoe companies and other fitness aids aswell (I think)
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2012, 08:26:54 AM
Nah, I reckon Tom's figures are about right - the two borderline internationals I know both get around 25k a year in gear sponsorship.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Johnny on December 27, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
Or you might be able to kit out a visiting touring side player for even less.

We're talking about low profile players for low profile teams, but it's still good exposure.

I've seen FusionSports and H4L gear being used in test matches in the uk and I'm guessing neither paid out the money mentioned.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: procricket on December 27, 2012, 09:51:45 AM
£20k+ for an established bowler. £100k+ for a batsman.

And if the player stays fit, bats well, scores runs then it can be financially viable. But it's a gamble.

Hoggard never got anything like that
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2012, 09:52:05 AM
Thats probably true - didn't Brendon Nash use a Smasher or something similar in Tests as well?
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: RightArmRapid on December 27, 2012, 10:08:10 AM
does this generally mean that test batsmen make more money than bowlers?
Unfortunately most people watch cricket for good batting, a lot of people don't give a hoot about bowlers. That and you can't really put a massive sticker on a bowlers arm to show how much their gear helps bowling.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
Unfortunately most people watch cricket for good batting, a lot of people don't give a hoot about bowlers. That and you can't really put a massive sticker on a bowlers arm to show how much their gear helps bowling.

See, I've tried to tell our bowlers that they're just there for the scut work, doesn't go down well....
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
Hold on, maybe THATs why KP needed "reintegrating"
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Tom on December 27, 2012, 11:52:25 AM
Hoggard never got anything like that
Hoggard was pre-IPL and pre Adidas and Nike. Would think have changed since then.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: iand123 on December 27, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
£20k+ for an established bowler. £100k+ for a batsman.

And if the player stays fit, bats well, scores runs then it can be financially viable. But it's a gamble.

Is that a year?
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Tom on December 27, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
Yes. Excluding bonuses. X factor players like Pietersen will be closer to £250k mark, I'd have thought.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2012, 07:26:29 PM
Yes. Excluding bonuses. X factor players like Pietersen will be closer to £250k mark, I'd have thought.

the Indian media were quoting twice that...
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 27, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
Probably some betting scam on the go there too :)
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on December 27, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
I would be suprised if Pieterson was only on £250k from Adidas.

It is a huge gamble though as i believe Woodworm got into big trouble due to the amount they paid Flintoff and Pieterson and never there money back. Even though every team i played then and now seemed to have at least 1 player using a Woodworm
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Johnny on December 27, 2012, 09:12:20 PM
I thought woodworm went to pot when they tried to crack golf
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: hell4leather cricket on December 27, 2012, 09:28:05 PM
250k to Adidas would hardly dent there profits . When we had rubel Hussain and sulimen Benn using our gear they both did so for free . I did hear a rumour Matt prior was after 450k for a new sponsor ...
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on December 27, 2012, 09:43:50 PM
I thought woodworm went to pot when they tried to crack golf

you may be correct all i remember is one day there were there and next gone only to be seen online under a name like SportsShack or something
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on December 27, 2012, 09:47:03 PM
 . I did hear a rumour Matt prior was after 450k for a new sponsor ...
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He is good but bloody hell that is a lot. I take it that would be over a minimum of 3-5 years? Massive gamble though as a couple of bad tours and any player could be dropped.  Bloody HUGE amount of only then playing county cricket
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Tom on December 27, 2012, 09:51:45 PM
£450k is based on a 3 year deal I'd think. I've been told he wanted £20k for the India series or £125k a year.

Pietersen was rumoured @ £1m for whole career at Woodworm, Adidas figures haven't been released.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: hell4leather cricket on December 27, 2012, 09:54:52 PM
I think with cricket being a massive market due to t20 cricket Ipl etc ,the players are now ripping the (No Swearing Please) out of it demanding what they want ... At the other end major companies are dropping average county players ,to cut there wage/sponsorship deals
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Number4 on December 27, 2012, 09:57:44 PM
I think with cricket being a massive market due to t20 cricket Ipl etc ,the players are now ripping the bottom out of it demanding what they want ... At the other end major companies are dropping average county players ,to cut there wage/sponsorship deals

Would that be a good thing to get the smaller companies out there and seen?
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: hell4leather cricket on December 27, 2012, 10:00:12 PM
Yes and no depends what players are avaliable , most are bowlers and if the county are on sky sports a lot in the summer
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 27, 2012, 10:01:04 PM
I personally can't see many youngsters or players taking notice of most county players kit. At the end of the day it's the guys playing Tests or ODI's that are the ones worth sponsoring IMO.

Some average county player (as good as they are!) really isn't going ot help you shift many <insert brand> bats/pads/gloves etc.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Tom on December 27, 2012, 10:01:46 PM
Sadly all the contracts I signed had confidentiality agreements, so can't share exact details. But the figures I've quoted earlier reflect what I/we were paying players and what we had been quoted.

For a County bowler most will be kit only. Even a decent county batsman will be kit only or on a small retainer (<£5k) + bonuses. Big bucks only hits when they play IPL or international cricket.
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: The_Bird on December 27, 2012, 10:18:07 PM
Getting sponsored by Jaguar would be nice, I think all the England Centrally contracted players get a free Jag!
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: hell4leather cricket on December 27, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
Each player has different demands some just want the best bats/equipment  ,some just want whatever they can get I.e money ,although its a false economy as they end up buying bats and put there sponsors stickers on
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: Sam on December 28, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
Getting sponsored by Jaguar would be nice, I think all the England Centrally contracted players get a free Jag!

I seem to remember someone saying something about the cars are for match days only but I could be wrong  8)!
Title: Re: Getting a bat used in a test match
Post by: RightArmRapid on December 28, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
Getting sponsored by Jaguar would be nice, I think all the England Centrally contracted players get a free Jag!
Could be an aggressive lease deal?