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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: langer17 on January 30, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
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Sure has a knack for destroying fingers/hands.
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This is brilliant :D
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Good old Mitchel 'The Helmet' Johnson! haha
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Big blow for the Aussies :(, but jeez Johnson can be dangerous when in good touch! Often a very entertaining bowler.
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Yes the Barmy Army find him incredibly entertaining ;)
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Yes the Barmy Army find him incredibly entertaining ;)
Haha, I guess you could say that no matter what his form is like, his bowling will always entertain at least one group of fans.
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Arguably England's most dangerous bowler....
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Rumour has it that Warner wasn't batting at the time but he got hit by a Johnson special whilst signing autographs for some kids.
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Rumour has it that Warner wasn't batting at the time but he got hit by a Johnson special whilst signing autographs for some kids.
Twitterer?
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Arguably England's most dangerous bowler....
he's a match winner for England no doubt. That 150 run head start he gave us at Lords in 2009 was priceless. I'm not convinced he'll tour in 2013, the fans will be very hard on him and we know he lacks confidence.
Was Warner in the same net as Johnson?
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Rumour has it that Warner wasn't batting at the time but he got hit by a Johnson special whilst signing autographs for some kids.
I heard Warner was 4 nets down from Mitch!
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Charlie, talk about hammering home the joke!
Nick - I think he will tour.
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Charlie, talk about hammering home the joke!
Nick - I think he will tour.
Sorry couldn't resist especially after the grief we got from that Harmison no ball! Saying that he'll definitely tour, although he'll be praying for every wicket to be like the WACA with the Freemantle Doctor blowing, oh and for the Barmy Army to lose it's collective voice for the summer! ;)
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Mitchell Johnson is one of my favorite fast bowler. He is really great bowler for the team Australia.He have a skillful delivery quality to the batsman.I like him very much.
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Mitchell Johnson is one of my favorite fast bowler. He is really great bowler for the team Australia.He have a skillful delivery quality to the batsman.I like him very much.
Trouble for you is so do all the English batsmen, they love the amount of complete rubbish he bowls. Of course he is capable of the odd good spell.
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Of course he is capable of the odd good spell.
Only at the WACA with the doctor!
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I love this thread!
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I love this thread!
Haha, what goes around comes around lol. Only a matter of time before he pulled it all together consistently. Lets hope he goes on and is consistently this fast and confident for a long long period of time. The game needs bowlers who can bowl at 94+ mph, with a bit of ticker!
Seems a completely different cricketer to the one that got torn to shreds by the barmy army. The wonders of a good woman, a steady personal life, and good sports psychology!
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though he still has not bowled nearly as well as the commentators have been making out. Adelaide was a career spell, for sure, but the rest of the time he has been somewhat flattered by poor English batting and the remorseless Harris.
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though he still has not bowled nearly as well as the commentators have been making out. Adelaide was a career spell, for sure, but the rest of the time he has been somewhat flattered by poor English batting and the remorseless Harris.
Correct but there have been times when England's commentators have done that to Jimmy, and times when he has been flattered by some very average batting!
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Fairplay, he's got himself sorted. Not sure why bowling with your arm straight took 4 years but he has been the difference this time around.
It will come around again ;) .2015 Ashes in England and Mitch is pushing 35. It will be seriously impressive if he maintains that speed and consistency after 2.5 years more cricket.
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Do do realize that his career record is much better than broads?
I think you English guys have got him backwards, although understandable. He's an excellent bowler that lost his action and got injured, not a crap bowler that bowls fast and occasionally well.
You English blokes should have seen him against the Saffers a few years back....
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Do do realize that his career record is much better than broads?
I think you English guys have got him backwards, although understandable. He's an excellent bowler that lost his action and got injured, not a crap bowler that bowls fast and occasionally well.
You English blokes should have seen him against the Saffers a few years back....
Biff remembers like it was yesterday, that Mitch smashed both his hands!
Biff will be a little nervous when Mitch rocks up in South Africa!
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If you look at his stats by series he had one bad season and that's the one everyone remembers
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If you look at his stats by series he had one bad season and that's the one everyone remembers
(If you're English). Although he also gave England a 150+ run start at Lords in 09 if I remember correctly?
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(If you're English). Although he also gave England a 150+ run start at Lords in 09 if I remember correctly?
That would have been the same series Anderson took 12 wickets for the series at an average of 45 compared to Johnson's 20 wickets at an average of 32 wouldn't it?
My point again.. Remembered for one game not the overall series
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I don't hugely rate Anderson anywhere other than England tbh! Its all swings and roundabouts! Anderson at Headingley, Johnson at the WACA.
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Correct but there have been times when England's commentators have done that to Jimmy, and times when he has been flattered by some very average batting!
I wouldn't entirely disagree with you on either point!
It will be interesting to see where this debate is at in say eighteen months - whether Johnson will be able to push on now or whether he slips back into bad old ways.
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I wouldn't entirely disagree with you on either point!
It will be interesting to see where this debate is at in say eighteen months - whether Johnson will be able to push on now or whether he slips back into bad old ways.
His potential is right up there with the best in the world. But if you take his action, it's just not one that will keep him injury free forever I don't think. Compare him to steyn..... Steyn is like an Audi, quick and built with German efficiency. Johnson is like a mustang, quick but made of crap parts, uses a lot of fuel and is bloody noisy and scare you half to death.
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His potential is right up there with the best in the world. But if you take his action, it's just not one that will keep him injury free forever I don't think. Compare him to steyn..... Steyn is like an Audi, quick and built with German efficiency. Johnson is like a mustang, quick but made of crap parts, uses a lot of fuel and is bloody noisy and scare you half to death.
Cracking analogy! I agree, can't see him being anywhere near this explosive in say two years time and has he really got the intelligence to adapt?
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I don't hugely rate Anderson anywhere other than England tbh! Its all swings and roundabouts! Anderson at Headingley, Johnson at the WACA.
I think you will find Anderson's average at Headingly is about 55
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I don't hugely rate Anderson anywhere other than England tbh! Its all swings and roundabouts! Anderson at Headingley, Johnson at the WACA.
*Anderson at Trent Bridge.
His record at Headingley is awful
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Shows you what I know doesn't it lol. *andersen at Trent bridge
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Johnson wouldn't be as effective in uk as the pitches won't offer much, i dont understand why anderson is getting criticised recently due to his performance, he has been england best bowler by far in the last 3-4 years, just because he isnt getting much wickets in aus doesnt mean he is not a good bowler
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Anderson bowled quite nicely in India last year...
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Johnson wouldn't be as effective in uk as the pitches won't offer much, i dont understand why anderson is getting criticised recently due to his performance, he has been england best bowler by far in the last 3-4 years, just because he isnt getting much wickets in aus doesnt mean he is not a good bowler
Johnson has 20 wickets at 32.66 against England in England.
His figures are offset by the horror show he had at Lords(match figures of 3-200 and Econ 5+)
Without the Lords Test, Johnson had 17 wickets at 26.
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Johnson has 20 wickets at 32.66 against England in England.
His figures are offset by the horror show he had at Lords(match figures of 3-200 and Econ 5+)
Without the Lords Test, Johnson had 17 wickets at 26.
I dont think Johnson would be effective as much in the next ashes in england if he was selected, but i still dont understand why Anderson is getting criticised, best bowler by far in England for now
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Johnson has 20 wickets at 32.66 against England in England.
His figures are offset by the horror show he had at Lords(match figures of 3-200 and Econ 5+)
Without the Lords Test, Johnson had 17 wickets at 26.
By the same token, take out Perth 2011....
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By the same token, take out Perth 2011....
The question was whether Johnson have an impact in English conditions...
So unless the WACA has moved to the UK I doubt it relevant
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Johnson wouldn't be as effective in uk as the pitches won't offer much, i dont understand why anderson is getting criticised recently due to his performance, he has been england best bowler by far in the last 3-4 years, just because he isnt getting much wickets in aus doesnt mean he is not a good bowler
The ignorance on this site is astounding. i understand that you're all low grade cricketers, but really.....
Very Fast bowlers are MORE important on flat wickets.
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The ignorance on this site is astounding. i understand that you're all low grade cricketers, but really.....
Very Fast bowlers are MORE important on flat wickets.
As opposed to your arrogance 'you're all lower grade cricket' .. Suppose you are a county player then?? If not then you are also a low grade cricketer fella
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Even worse if he was a county player. Even more ignorance then in my opinion. Nothing wrong with getting an opinion over but don't make it sound like you're belittling people.
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The ignorance on this site is astounding. i understand that you're all low grade cricketers, but really.....
Very Fast bowlers are MORE important on flat wickets.
If we're all low grade cricketers on here I'd love to know what you consider to be a high standard...
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To query where awp plays, it cannot be England as he uses the word "grade". That probably means Australia OR a high school in America.
The ignorance on this site is astounding. i understand that you're all low grade cricketers, but really.....
Very Fast bowlers are MORE important on flat wickets.
To put his comments in to perspective and to work out his level of knowledge.
The above comment is correct, but was in reply to Jason_Yuan who said that the pitches will not offer much (to Mitchell Johnson). AWP has shown little or no knowledge about the English pitches as these will not offer much to Mitch. English pitches are ...
- Not as quick
- Not as bouncy
- Greener
Therefore they will not offer much to an out-and-out quickie like Mitch. They will offer assistance to the slightly slower bowlers who can move the ball off the seam (Harris, etc).
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Joel, to be fair about English pitches, it really depends on how they are prepared. Historically the Oval was flat and fast, and Old Trafford is considered in a similar vein. I think I'd be observing how he performs at the MCG or SCG before making sweeping comments about what might happen in England.
As was earlier posited, in his last tour of the UK in 2009, he had some pretty good bowling figures and was the most economical fast bowler in three out of the nine innings. He was also worst in two. What this suggests is that normal English pitches don't present him with a particular problem, even if he isn't quite as devastating. I'm pretty sure that at 95mph, even on a "slower" greentop in England, there are very few people who would want to face his short ball. And if the seam did bite, you'd be in all sorts of trouble.
It's a complete load of rubbish to think that out and out quicks can't prosper in English conditions. Anyone watching Devon Malcolm versus South Africa or the WIndies greats in the Eighties and Nineties knows that a statement such as that is complete codswallop.
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Joel, to be fair about English pitches, it really depends on how they are prepared. Historically the Oval was flat and fast, and Old Trafford is considered in a similar vein. I think I'd be observing how he performs at the MCG or SCG before making sweeping comments about what might happen in England.
As was earlier posited, in his last tour of the UK in 2009, he had some pretty good bowling figures and was the most economical fast bowler in three out of the nine innings. He was also worst in two. What this suggests is that normal English pitches don't present him with a particular problem, even if he isn't quite as devastating. I'm pretty sure that at 95mph, even on a "slower" greentop in England, there are very few people who would want to face his short ball. And if the seam did bite, you'd be in all sorts of trouble.
It's a complete load of rubbish to think that out and out quicks can't prosper in English conditions. Anyone watching Devon Malcolm versus South Africa or the WIndies greats in the Eighties and Nineties knows that a statement such as that is complete codswallop.
I never said that he couldn't prosper, as pace is pace and is the "x-factor" in cricket. I said that the pitches in Engalnd are more suited to the slightly slower bowlers who can do more off the seam than just bowling quick.
If you offer the option to a quickie of bowling on a proper quick track like Perth, or a reasonably quick track like Old Trafford, I am fairly sure that most, if not all would prefer Perth as it is quicker and bouncier.
With regards to the preperation of English pitches, you can say this about every pitch in the World. Give me 12 months, some decent grass seed, a bit of top soil, a long hose pipe and enough water to fill the ocean, I am confident to have Perth looking greener by next year....
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The ignorance on this site is astounding. i understand that you're all low grade cricketers, but really.....
Very Fast bowlers are MORE important on flat wickets.
Some people here actually play quite a decent level of cricket, or at least used to. We even have a sponsor who used to play County cricket, and an ex-international player. (Probably more!) That's a rather 'low grade' of intelligence you applied to that comment. ;)
Have a look at McGrath's record in Tests, his highest average is in Asia, at 23.02, which is still ridiculously low. He has a career average of 21.64. In terms of countries, I think Pakistan and Sri Lanka were his worst, at 31 and 29.2 respectively, but he only played 5 and 4 tests in those places. Around the rest of the world, his average is below 24. He was hardly express pace, just a very patient, consistent and clever bowler. Bowlers like him are the most important on any wicket in my eyes.
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28 wickets at an average of just under 15 this series so far is a stellar effort. I can see him getting 40 wickets for the series