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Title: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: potzy248 on February 17, 2013, 02:48:11 AM
Just watching the ODI and see Trott using New Balance gear.

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Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: mattw on February 17, 2013, 03:00:05 AM
Indeed,

It's not new news, he's been using them since the start of the winter or around then, it's not very impressive gear -  Steyn is also using NB footwear.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: potzy248 on February 17, 2013, 03:38:27 AM
Indeed,

It's not new news, he's been using them since the start of the winter or around then, it's not very impressive gear -  Steyn is also using NB footwear.

Thought that would be the case. First time Ive seen it down these ways though.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Gcricket on February 17, 2013, 06:25:43 AM
What is the world coming to? NEW BALANCE!?
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: SixOfTheBest on February 17, 2013, 07:16:06 AM
Gear looks very poor...they certainly must be paying him VERY handsomely to turn down GM for that stuff.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: ppccopener on February 17, 2013, 07:34:43 AM
Hmmmm....im not sure about this but i believe the trott and new balance connection is a relative like brother in law or a very good friend that asked him to use their stuff....
If you remember couple of years back chris read used choice gear for a season-him and gary knew each other
So......sometimes this sort of thing happens

I might be wrong thou! :)
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: potzy248 on February 17, 2013, 08:03:49 AM
I don't know why more top players don't buy into a bat company and use their kit. Surely If KP used for example H4L the sales would sky rocket and they would make a killing?
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Buzz on February 17, 2013, 08:34:37 AM
I don't know why more top players don't buy into a bat company and use their kit. Surely If KP used for example H4L the sales would sky rocket and they would make a killing?


I remain to be convinced there is a killing to be made in the manufacturing of cricket equipment.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Ryan on February 17, 2013, 08:35:07 AM
I don't know why more top players don't buy into a bat company and use their kit. Surely If KP used for example H4L the sales would sky rocket and they would make a killing?

H4L would make a killing if Matt could keep up to the demand. I'm sure he'd have a good go though lol  :D
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: ppccopener on February 17, 2013, 08:44:16 AM
Love to see a top player doing that sales would indeed rocket
But up front sponsorship for big stars is big money and a big risk
Kp and flintoff were on serious dosh with woodworm and they went into administration few years ago i think.re branded now thou
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: FattusCattus on February 17, 2013, 09:28:28 AM
It's no good sales rocketing if the bat maker can't keep up with demand.

He'd then have to outsource manufacture to India or Sussex and people on here would trash the brand for losing it's integrity.

There's a limit to what can be done without a large staff or a big machine.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: ppccopener on February 17, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
Well said.
Terminator 5- rise against the cnc machines
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 17, 2013, 10:21:28 AM
I remain to be convinced there is a killing to be made in the manufacturing of cricket equipment.

I dunno, I reckon you could makes darn good living out of it. I think it depends more on you financial ability at start up. If brand a for example turns up with a top range of bats, pads, gloves, bags, wk kit etc etc. prices really well and offers lots of 'deals' I think after a few seasons you could make a bit. Again the start up money would need to be there, as you could go along to loads of clubs, leagues and 'sponsor' the top batsmen. That would get you plenty of exposure. Offer pretty much cost price on club kit (which means your brand is what kids learn to use and trust) and clubs use you for price ( so potentially coming back for other stuff too). Thorny works for learner drivers cars, loads buy the car they learnt in.

I don't think its easy and I think you need good start up and money in the bank to back it up . I do think if you started a new brand turning up with the full ranges is the best idea if you are looking to really go for it. Offer kids stuff as a future lead to their adult custom, get them hooked early ( by appealing to the bank of dads pockets) and potentially they'll keep returning
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: jamielsn15 on February 17, 2013, 12:22:33 PM
I would suggest Trott is doing what most do - having them made by his preferred bat maker and putting the New Balance stickers on them.

It's been done to death on forums I know, but why would you entrust your livelihood to a non-specialist sports manufacturer (in cricketing terms) when you've had someone making bats you trust for years?

I wouldn't and the conversation should be simple; I've got the bats, you've got the stickers and the money, let's help each other out.

I should be an agent...
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: mattw on February 17, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
that goes without saying. They're probably his GM bats anyway, just changed the stickers.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: fasteddie on February 17, 2013, 12:45:11 PM
I don't know why more top players don't buy into a bat company and use their kit. Surely If KP used for example H4L the sales would sky rocket and they would make a killing?

I don't think Matt would sully the brand by having that prat use his amazing bats!
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: fasteddie on February 17, 2013, 12:49:11 PM
I remain to be convinced there is a killing to be made in the manufacturing of cricket equipment.

To keep it pure and not dilute the brand it is definitely a lifestyle model.

It's like any artisan product.

A good way to expand production is to offer a 'standard' product at low prices, with the really good stuff getting a 'Custom shop' badge. Gibson and Fender do it.

In the end, the name of the bat-maker will always sell the product.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Mortimer on February 17, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
I don't know why more top players don't buy into a bat company and use their kit. Surely If KP used for example H4L the sales would sky rocket and they would make a killing?


Do they have the capacity to make such large volumes?
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: tussy17 on February 17, 2013, 10:18:31 PM
It's hardly as if KP or in fact any of the England players are struggling for additional income. These small but in our eyes great cricket kit manufacturers should stay as they are. New Balance and Adidas with Trott & KP are hardly renowned for just cricket gear and could take the hit better if the cricket gear doesn't sell compared to say H4L etc.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: jamielsn15 on February 19, 2013, 02:41:59 PM
It's hardly as if KP or in fact any of the England players are struggling for additional income. These small but in our eyes great cricket kit manufacturers should stay as they are. New Balance and Adidas with Trott & KP are hardly renowned for just cricket gear and could take the hit better if the cricket gear doesn't sell compared to say H4L etc.

That's why the arrangement of pros using small firms but putting their sponsors stickers on works for everyone.  Whereas I'm sure the small firms would love the business, demand would outstrip supply in weeks and customer service would go down the pan.  Better they make the bats for the world class players, in the knowledge they're providing quality.  No doubt word of mouth in the pro dressing rooms gets around, orders go in and they are judged on the quality of their bats, not their ability to attempt to produce thousands of bats - quality would certainly be diluted if this were the case...
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Vitas Cricket on February 19, 2013, 02:47:33 PM
I would suggest Trott is doing what most do - having them made by his preferred bat maker and putting the New Balance stickers on them.

It's been done to death on forums I know, but why would you entrust your livelihood to a non-specialist sports manufacturer (in cricketing terms) when you've had someone making bats you trust for years?

I wouldn't and the conversation should be simple; I've got the bats, you've got the stickers and the money, let's help each other out.

I should be an agent...

Reportedly he ordered and took delivery of 10+ bats from GM shortly before he left for NB
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: jamielsn15 on February 19, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
Reportedly he ordered and took delivery of 10+ bats from GM shortly before he left for NB

He may well have done; we all know there's no way on earth NB are making his bats for him...
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: ppccopener on February 19, 2013, 03:19:32 PM
It's purely sponsorship these days, there have been open secrets for years who makes who's bat. Trott prob liked the shape for him, they know exactly what he wanted and off you go....

anyone who has been to Warsop will see a signed bat in a frame which says ''thanks for making my bats''. It's not a Warsop stickered bat...

just once, i would like to see a top pro with a bat advertising the small manufacturer on the telly.
Just once, It would make me happy !  but im a bit of a saddo
 :) :)
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: yvk3103 on February 19, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
Sponsorship deals work both ways. I tend to believe that the sponsor gets more value for this investments by sponsoring certain players.

If a bat maker is paying "x" amount to a player then they would expect there sales to increase by at least a few multiples of the "x" amount being paid.

So if a player moves sponsors then it is his decision and he and his agents decide how to maximize the returns on the few inches of prime space available on the bat.

It takes a lot of time and airtime for viewers to record which new sponsor the player is using. A lot of people (excluding the CBF members) will still say GM sponsors Trott as he has been with them for such a long time.

I seriously believe the time will come very soon for some of our forum brands to make it big.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Vitas Cricket on February 19, 2013, 03:38:43 PM
Theres no way adidas make money out of sponsoring sachin and kp
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Kieron_BT on February 19, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
Was talking to the maker of Trotts bats over the weekend. Certainly not NB that are making them!
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Buzz on February 19, 2013, 04:05:28 PM
Reportedly he ordered and took delivery of 10+ bats from GM shortly before he left for NB
Anyone else think that this is a little bit immoral?
Mind you, GM must have known he was coming to the end of his contract so perhaps they could have said no... or they were trying to keep him loyal.
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: cricketbadger on February 19, 2013, 04:07:12 PM
If its within his contract then I see no problem, I'd probably have done the same, wont make much different to GM him taking 10 bats, gained them plenty of exposure over the years
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: wayward_hayward on February 19, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
Anyone else think that this is a little bit immoral?
Mind you, GM must have known he was coming to the end of his contract so perhaps they could have said no... or they were trying to keep him loyal.

I agree, especially after the amount of years he has spent with GM. He has chosen money over good looking products for sure  ???
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: yvk3103 on February 19, 2013, 04:33:57 PM
Theres no way adidas make money out of sponsoring sachin and kp

Sachin endorsements with Adidas go beyond cricket. He has been Adidas brand ambassador ever since his MRF days.

Adidas sponsor a lot of cricket now (more than Puma or Nike). Sponsorship deals with ECB, CA and CSA.

They surely make a lot of money from replica kits
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: Vitas Cricket on February 19, 2013, 04:44:04 PM
Sachin endorsements with Adidas go beyond cricket. He has been Adidas brand ambassador ever since his MRF days.

Adidas sponsor a lot of cricket now (more than Puma or Nike). Sponsorship deals with ECB, CA and CSA.

They surely make a lot of money from replica kits

True, i did not consider replica kit sales.

You only have to type 'cricket bat' into ebay to realize the sea of adidas bats on the cheap, obviously no-one is buying them
Title: Re: Trott using New Balance.
Post by: kouservice on February 19, 2013, 07:48:02 PM
True, i did not consider replica kit sales.

You only have to type 'cricket bat' into ebay to realize the sea of adidas bats on the cheap, obviously no-one is buying them

 Not only ebay, go to any online shop and if adidas cricket bats are available they are on sale .