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Title: Indoor club net rant.
Post by: wilkie113 on March 18, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
Having gone back to my old club after a year out, nets have been going well, until tonight when I went to put my pads on 2nd, and upset of the guys that's an all rounder. He then in turn decided to persuade all the quicks to bowl bouncers. I think I had one ball that was in my half of the wicket off the quicks. In my view this is absolutely f-ing no point in quicks doing this when we are going to end up first game on a pudding and there going to get smashed everywhere. People who know me, will obviously know I'm not the tallest of lads, so it's not difficult to get the ball head/over my head on a indoor surface. So basically I had a net where all I did was block and duck. Completely defeats the object of preseason nets.

Anyone else got (No Swearing Please) holes like this at nets?
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Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 18, 2013, 10:54:24 PM
Having gone back to my old club after a year out, nets have been going well, until tonight when I went to put my pads on 2nd, and upset of the guys that's an all rounder. He then in turn decided to persuade all the quicks to bowl bouncers. I think I had one ball that was in my half of the wicket off the quicks. In my view this is absolutely f-ing point in quicks doing this when we are going to end up first game on a pudding and there going to get smashed everywhere. People who know me, will obviously know I'm not the tallest of lads, so it's not difficult to get the ball head/over my head on a indoor surface. So basically I had a net where all I did was block and duck. Completely defeats the object of preseason nets.

Anyone else got (No Swearing Please) holes like this at nets?

feel for you mate, that's shocking.  I had a guy today who was actually sharp on the indoor track who kept bowling short. Fortunately I just got out the way and carried on but I feel your pain mate. It is completely pointless and show's them up for the ............ that they are. Find another club mate!! One without idiots.
Title: Re: Indoor club net rant.
Post by: wilkie113 on March 18, 2013, 10:56:27 PM
Most of the lads are alright, it's just the one guy I've never gotten along with who things he's barry big b0llocks and needs knocking down a peg or two.

I'll just go into the bowling machine net next week doesn't bother me, but feels like I've been robbed of my practice this week.
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Post by: epbs on March 18, 2013, 11:02:35 PM
A club without idiots doesn't exist.
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Post by: wilkie113 on March 18, 2013, 11:04:36 PM
can completely agree with that mate, just didn't realise just how many there was there lol
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Post by: tim2000s on March 19, 2013, 06:55:41 AM
You'd have enjoyed our net on Sunday then. The flooring is like a spongy rubber, so everything you'd normally drive on a half volley is up around your ears. Makes the quick guys seem quicker and bouncier, and is ultimately a waste of time for the batsman!
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Post by: ACM0608 on March 19, 2013, 08:38:28 AM
Biggest problem with most indoor nets in my opinion the surface is nothing like outdoors.
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 19, 2013, 08:45:33 AM
If it was me in the nets I would have stopped the bowlers and had a word with them, or at least the captain/senior member would have at our club as if we get some lads banging it short the old shout of "pitch it up" goes out to them.

We also enforce 5 press-ups for bowlers who bowl wides/no balls etc so I'd have had them down learning to pitch it up pretty quickly if they persisted with the short stuff!!

We have to pay £4 a session at our nets so everyone needs to ensure they get value for money rather than wasting each others time.
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Post by: Vulcan Cricket on March 19, 2013, 09:46:58 AM
What I say to all bowlers in are nets if you can't bowl out side why bother indoors as all they will do when out side to bowl sort and when bowl in nets at a batter it praticeing your skills not let's see if we can kill the batter
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Post by: Number4 on March 19, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
Most of the lads are alright, it's just the one guy I've never gotten along with who things he's barry big b0llocks and needs knocking down a peg or two.

I'll just go into the bowling machine net next week doesn't bother me, but feels like I've been robbed of my practice this week.

Simple solution Wilkie.... Knock him out... He won't do it again
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Post by: 123* on March 19, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
Agree its a joke; I'm debating not going tonight as its pointless, you get medium pacers who struggle to get it down the other end outdoors just trying to bang it in every ball, I hate indoors as the surface just flies through, in a lot of cases it looks like the ball picks up pace off the surface, then when you go outside your (No Swearing Please).
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Post by: 123* on March 19, 2013, 09:59:41 AM
As if b u g g e r e d is a swear word ^^^^
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Post by: fatbats on March 19, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
Do you guys have quicks?? Haha

Trying to guess who this is now as a few candidates
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Post by: ajmw89 on March 19, 2013, 10:04:48 AM
Our indoor nets seem to be the opposite.  Doesn't matter where the ball pitches, it doesn't get above ankle high!  At least it teaches you to pitch up...
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Post by: paul090971 on March 19, 2013, 10:16:51 AM
Just bowl it from 19  yards and let a beamer go!  Stand your ground against the (No Swearing Please)!
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Post by: Jenko on March 19, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
That's just crap. As a quick bowler I never bowl short intentionally at teammates in nets unless we are working on something and they know it's coming. I'd just feel like an (No Swearing Please) if I ever injured a teammate deliberately bowling bumpers at him.
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Post by: uknsaunders on March 19, 2013, 10:27:50 AM
I use to tell our guys that you should bowl as you do in a game, otherwise what's the point. Nets is about practise and improving your skills. Trying new things is great but that should be alongside bowling accurately at the same time.

Get your coach/captain/man in charge to do a 3 * 3 grid and track where each ball lands. Bottom 3 squares are short off/short straight/short leg. Middle 3 are good length/off/middle/leg and top 3 full off/middle/leg. Fine or punish anybody bowling outside the top left 4 squares ie. good/full on middle/off side. That will sort them out :-)
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Post by: Karl_27 on March 19, 2013, 02:42:46 PM
That does sound a unnecessary thing to do, however i think that the bowlers should be prepared to bowl some short stuff at you if they feel that is the way to get you out. Try and make nets as realistic as a match situation, such as getting one bowler to bowl an over at a time at a batsman so as to implement a plan to get them out. Also means that you can stretch less bowlers across 2 nets when numbers are shorter.
Title: Re: Indoor club net rant.
Post by: wilkie113 on March 19, 2013, 08:35:12 PM
Do you guys have quicks?? Haha

Trying to guess who this is now as a few candidates


No everyones as quick as you Aaron, they can't help that. But it doesn't matter how fast it is, I wasn't troubled by it, it was just completely pointless and a waste of 3 bucks
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Post by: Twelfth Man on March 19, 2013, 09:01:55 PM
Oh how I have been on the end of this far too many times to remember.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 19, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
I walked out of a net because of this once and refused to bowl at the ballends who kept trying to take my head off when they batted. Soon got the message accross to them
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Post by: beaver5 on March 19, 2013, 09:22:46 PM
Guy at my club sees bowling bouncers at me as a challenge to show his pace. He's not that fast, but put it down at a good speed in last nights nets. I see it as a chance to try out new skills. I usually give him the charge too get as close to the pitch as possible and smash it back at him. Its also given me the opportunity to try the ramp shot. Its much harder than it looks and its taken me several weeks to even get a bat on it.
Title: Re: Indoor club net rant.
Post by: epbs on March 19, 2013, 09:33:32 PM
Has it not also occurred to you that perhaps if you haven't been around for a year maybe you shouldn't have taken second hit? If there are guys who turn up week-in week-out they would probably feel you were jumping the queue a bit.

The guy still sounds like a (No Swearing Please) though. And I moved from a club like that a few years ago when I wasn't getting anywhere and I've come on a lot since. There are idiots everywhere, but some clubs have a culture of improvement and good team spirit. Try to find one like that
Title: Re: Indoor club net rant.
Post by: wilkie113 on March 19, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
Has it not also occurred to you that perhaps if you haven't been around for a year maybe you shouldn't have taken second hit? If there are guys who turn up week-in week-out they would probably feel you were jumping the queue a bit.

The guy still sounds like a (No Swearing Please) though. And I moved from a club like that a few years ago when I wasn't getting anywhere and I've come on a lot since. There are idiots everywhere, but some clubs have a culture of improvement and good team spirit. Try to find one like that

It's not the point, I said to him after he started crying he could bat instead of me 2nd up. I've been to every net, week in week out the same as he has.
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Post by: PedalsMcgrew on March 19, 2013, 09:48:46 PM
It's not the point, I said to him after he started crying he could bat instead of me 2nd up. I've been to every net, week in week out the same as he has.

Yeah! Anyway, what sort of weeny **** starts crying about not batting when HE wants to at a club net! Guy sounds like a massive tool Wilkie. Smash his face in with a soft pocket.....that'll learn him.  :D
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Post by: charlie15 on March 19, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
At least you guys get nets, ours are so early in the evening that only skivers, the unemployed or those who work locally can make it!  Organise and something in a brewery doesn't come close to it!!!!

Oh and plus its in the most inaccessible place going!

On the positive side the wickets do resemble an early season pudding of a wicket!
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Post by: seedy on March 19, 2013, 10:04:15 PM
Quite annoying this there was a lad who used to play for us who found it entertaining bowling short indoor.

I found it more amusing watching him doing the same outside and getting hammered and leaving the club after three games spitting his toys out the pram.
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Post by: fatbats on March 20, 2013, 06:26:41 AM
So there all old fat and slow like me well surprised you didn't just catch it


Yeah it's a waste of time and money mate hopefully Jordan will sort it
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Post by: Number4 on March 20, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
It's not the point, I said to him after he started crying he could bat instead of me 2nd up. I've been to every net, week in week out the same as he has.

Move to Aus and play for us we will give you a fair go Wilkie... We need a good leggie
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Post by: ajmw89 on March 20, 2013, 09:27:41 AM
Australia need a good spinner ;)
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Post by: no1northernbloke on March 22, 2013, 04:23:12 PM
Yeah, it's a bit annoying but it happens. I can understand that the bowlers like to see it fly through at head height in the nets as outside not many have the pace to do it. Also they are less likely to get smashed around in the nets which the batters tend to try and do when it's pitched up. Nets tend to be unrealistic anyway and people bat and bowl very differently when out in the middle. In general winter nets are pretty much used as a bit of a social and in terms of development are pretty much a waste of time imho Instead a bowling machine setup to practice specific shots for batters is far more productive

If batting against the short stuff though I'd try to look on it as a challenge and look to hook, pull and duck as need be you might as well get something out of it....
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Post by: wilkie113 on March 22, 2013, 04:25:21 PM
Move to Aus and play for us we will give you a fair go Wilkie... We need a good leggie

Mate, if your not joking sort me a job out for next season and I'm there haha!
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Post by: charlie15 on March 22, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
Mate, if your not joking sort me a job out for next season and I'm there haha!

You don't need a job mate, just a sewing machine and some material and you'll be off... you can call them Soft Pouches for our antipodean cousins!  :D
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Post by: Lauriesgang on March 22, 2013, 04:45:57 PM
Very true that when we net. I am always very annoyed when the quicks try and bowl bouncers. I am only 14 and they can only do this inside or in hard surfaces ( never in England. So I don't see the point trying to bowl them. It is not a true reflection on the game.
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Post by: 97notout on March 22, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
If you don't move to Oz Tom, let me know where this kid lives I know some tasty boys who will kidnap and maim for a couple of quid ;)
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Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 23, 2013, 01:03:12 PM
I would have informed whoever was collecting the money that I wouldn't be paying for the session.

I wouldn't have bowled at anyone who did this either. I would have still stood there at the top of the run up, leading to that inevitable delay where every other bowler thinks im Going To run in, eventually one of them gets fed up waiting and runs in to bowl instead. This 'dead' time winds the batsman up no end. When he moans at me, a quick wink and a comment along the lines of 'Shall I bowl pointless bumpers at you mate?' Should suffice.

Short stuff is ok as a variation, but it's absolutely pointless every single ball. And the reasons your guy has for doing it are pathetic Wilkie. I'd be telling him what a pathetic drip he is at every opportunity, in front of as many team mates as possible.
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Post by: Tumo on March 23, 2013, 02:31:18 PM
I would have informed whoever was collecting the money that I wouldn't be paying for the session.

I wouldn't have bowled at anyone who did this either. I would have still stood there at the top of the run up, leading to that inevitable delay where every other bowler thinks im Going To run in, eventually one of them gets fed up waiting and runs in to bowl instead. This 'dead' time winds the batsman up no end. When he moans at me, a quick wink and a comment along the lines of 'Shall I bowl pointless bumpers at you mate?' Should suffice.

Short stuff is ok as a variation, but it's absolutely pointless every single ball. And the reasons your guy has for doing it are pathetic Wilkie. I'd be telling him what a pathetic drip he is at every opportunity, in front of as many team mates as possible.
I like your thinking, at Uni we had people bowling bouncers nearly every ball (the place we currently train at is rather bouncy) so we told them to pack it in cause it's garbage to bat against, not helpful at all!
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Post by: SOULMAN1012 on March 23, 2013, 06:33:32 PM
Reading this I am a little jealous as I would love to net somewhere where the ball gets above the knee roll. Our openers are both about 70 maybe a few mph more and it is not possible to bowl anything short.

On the point of the bloke that's a tool, in all honesty I would just tell him he is a tool and that he bowled really well and you can't wait to see him take top order league batters apart with his rapid pace, I always find the sarcastic comment works really well.
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Post by: jblowe on April 09, 2013, 08:14:49 PM
Wilkie

How have your club nets been over the past few weeks, has that idiot stopped bowling short at you?