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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Kippax Cricket => Topic started by: Kippax on March 23, 2013, 05:29:16 PM
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Stop Press - KIPPAX have developed a new fully legal Grade A bat that has edges in excess of 50mm and will weigh well under 3llb. It will make its appearance in the domestic T20 this season. Keep your eyes peeled to witness something quite unique.
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What is the spine height?
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exactly what I was thinking - surely it'll be LESS than 50mm....
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Like a scoop
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Edges in excess of 50mm? That must be a huge bat but controlling weight must be a serious issue i believe. Would be interested in pics once ready.
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well, of about a dozen bats of around 3lb I have at home, none have edges above 45mm...
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Surely Mongoose bats already acheive this? They're only 2/3rd's of the willow of a normal bat.
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I have bats at 2-7 with 42mm edges it is easily possible and if you look at it kippax do have there pick of wood being possibly the 2nd largest supplier of English willow in the world
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Never seen a mongoose that is anywhere near 50mm.
My laver ultra is 49/50mm at 2-11 from a standard cleft
I would of thought that it would be an oversized cleft to get above 50mm and under 3lb should be easily achievable
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Never seen a mongoose that is anywhere near 50mm.
My laver ultra is 49/50mm at 2-11 from a standard cleft
I would of thought that it would be an oversized cleft to get above 50mm and under 3lb should be easily achievable
You mean low density?
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I thought the maximum edge from a standard cleft was 45mm
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From what Laver told me, a standard cleft is roughly around 50-55mm to which you would lose around 5mm to pressing.
As we are guessing I would not of thought these bats would be low density clefts, I'm guessing there will be 1-2 inches off the blade and a longer handle.
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I thought the maximum edge from a standard cleft was 45mm
Roughly yes, however kipper has got a massive batch of oversized clefts. Think is they can cut clefts at what ever size they like...that's one of the good things about being involved from tree - finished product.
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Too true mate
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Keeping us in suspense like this , not fair ;).
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Excellent result and obviously a step forward for you in process to allow you to make a profile this size!
Personally more interested in pressing and response rather than edge size, but there are a lot of people who love a huge edge size. 8)
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I saw these two big bats yesterday and they're massive!
kippa/ leafy get some pictures up!!
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think there was some on facebook?
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here go...
2.10
48mm edges
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524758_10151844127254278_700968625_n.jpg)
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/602098_10151834464024278_1913587179_n.jpg)
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Yawn. Big edges are boring.
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Looking at the profile it seems Kippax have made a bat which is pretty much the same thickness side to side.
I'm not pouring scorn here but can someone tell me why the fuss?
What's the USP, the new development, the bang in the buck?
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I think the USP is quite clear, who doesn't want a massive bat in their weight range?
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I think the USP is quite clear, who doesn't want a massive bat in their weight range?
What did it knock up like Ryan?
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I didn't have a knock up but I would have thought it would with the amount of wood in the blade.
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definitely will go well given the amount of wood. but have had a AS V10 with decent edges for the weight and it felt as if it hadn't been pressed at all. very hollow sound and cracked in a few nets sessions. definitely the worst bat i have ever bought.
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What are the bats with the horsey on them? I like them!
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Them wavex looks awesome in the back !
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What are the bats with the horsey on them? I like them!
Are they not prancing horse bats?
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That's the stallion signature bat Bruce. I didn't know you liked hos.
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I'm more if a Whippet man myself!
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All about the drying
Asian style is my theory and a bloody good theory too
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seen one of these yesterday it was massive and 2.10 went like a train as well lol
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Look on the website ladies and gents! It's impressive! BUT £300!
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Can't post your own eBay listings I'm afraid, does look a decent stick though.
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2 lads have a Colussus at my club, they are huge, and light for the size, like the look of the red stickers on that ebay listing
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Did these bats ever appear in the domestic T20 as promised? I didn't see them.
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Did these bats ever appear in the domestic T20 as promised? I didn't see them.
If they did, I don't think they will have been with the kippax stickers so people may not have noticed
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If they did, I don't think they will have been with the kippax stickers so people may not have noticed
Yorkshire?
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Saw this in allrounder today 3lb5 Beast massive edges and spine height must 60-70mm edge and 75-85mm spine
and has a very light pick-up under 3lb
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u386/qaziz99/20151008_130210_zps210strtu.jpg) (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/qaziz99/media/20151008_130210_zps210strtu.jpg.html)
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u386/qaziz99/20151008_130319_zpsoxnymsxu.jpg) (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/qaziz99/media/20151008_130319_zpsoxnymsxu.jpg.html)
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The new Colossus plus, they are huge!
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Did these bats ever appear in the domestic T20 as promised? I didn't see them.
Pyrah for Yorkshire, Bresnan has in the past used Kippax stickered as Woodworm I believe. Stoneman at Durham plus a couple of others I believe?
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I saw them in all rounder the other day, I was in a terribly hungover state and was gobsmacked at the size, and also the poor customer service there!
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I've got a couple of beauties - 1 at 2lb 13.1 and 1 at 2lb 14. They're absolutely insane - never had a bat perform as well!
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Rumours of England players on another thread?
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Rumours of England players on another thread?
On Morgan's bat you could see the side stamp very faint and showed a picture of about 6 bats all stickers up as a kippax
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On Morgan's bat you could see the side stamp very faint and showed a picture of about 6 bats all stickers up as a kippax
Got the picture/ link?
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Freeze-frame when Buttler goes to 98...
Did it. What was I looking for?
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Did it. What was I looking for?
A rubbed out K? Could just be a removed Kookaburra label, I suppose. Not going to look again - that would be too sad!
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A rubbed out K? Could just be a removed Kookaburra label, I suppose. Not going to look again - that would be too sad!
I am sad enough, I'll have another look! :).
On my first look I thought the profile from the side did look similar to a Colossus with the huge edges but I never spotted the K.
I still have a couple of Kippax Colossus' at home so will be sad and hold one up near the freeze-frame of Buttler on 98. :D
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I am sad enough, I'll have another look! :).
On my first look I thought the profile from the side did look similar to a Colossus with the huge edges but I never spotted the K.
I still have a couple of Kippax Colossus' at home so will be sad and hold one up near the freeze-frame of Buttler on 98. :D
Definitely something rubbed out. Morgan's too.
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Totally agree there's something rubbed out. No idea what it is in Buttlers case though, could well be a 'K' but not actually enough evidence to prove that.
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People would be all over this thread if it was about B3.
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People would be all over this thread if it was about B3.
thank you for your kind words pal.
Always been a big fan of Chris at Kippax had a few great bats from him
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It's not all about you.
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It's not all about you.
Never said it was pal as I have said Kippax vastly underrated great lads and second biggest willow supply top lads you brought us up in the topic I guess your bored :D
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I'm not sure he realises this thread is from March 2013.
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It's a thread that's been revived due to belief of some that certain England players are using Kippax bats.
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Kippax can go as big as they like they cut there own clefts like gn
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Kippax can go as big as they like they cut there own clefts like gn
I think we all know that.
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Has @Bats_Entertainment ever posted anything constructive on here (or more than a one-liner for that matter...)
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Has @Bats_Entertainment ever posted anything constructive on here (or more than a one-liner for that matter...)
My Ashes selection thought process was proven right, I thought?
What is it you don't like about England players possibly using Kippax bats? You don't own one?
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My Ashes selection thought process was proven right, I thought?
What is it you don't like about England players possibly using Kippax bats? You don't own one?
Who said I don't like Englnd players using Kippax bats?
You've put 2+2 together and made about 3,573 if that's the conclusion you came to...
You said earlier you wouldn't go back and look at Butler's bat as you deemed it "too sad" yet you're quite happy to revive threads from 2013 with information that's already been posted on another thread.
Dave also responded in a very dignified manner, but you took a dig at B3 out of the blue as well.
As the chances of me getting a constructive answer to this are non-existent at best that's the last I'll post on the subject. I feel I've probably fed the troll too much already tonight...
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Oh do stop your childish name-calling.
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Enough now. Keep it constructive please or I will lock the topic until we have all cooled down.
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Anyone else noticed that kippax bats over all length are 1cm shorter than a standard short handled bat? Seems like they are taking a leaf out of the Pakistani bat makers book and making shorter bats to help them reduce weight and increase size. Everyone of the new kippax bats I have seen have been shorter in over all length. One of the lads using a Kippax said it was custom made through the Yorkshire academy program so was shocked to see it was shorter than a standard short handle especially as he was 6ft 1, not sure this is the best way to help him develop his game.
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Usually when that happens the handle is made longer to compensate. Was this not the case on this one?
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unless you hold the handle right at the top it doesn't compensate at all.
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unless you hold the handle right at the top it doesn't compensate at all.
Well it does. You just keep your top hand in the same position as you normally would (as in it has the same amount of wood poking out of the top) and it's exactly the same. I don't manoeuvre my hands so the bottom hand is the same distance from the shoulders of the bat.
Whether this affects the way the bat feels is another matter, but it would be the same length. I liken this to a mongoose bat, just not as extreme.
The issue I'd have with it is if they never mentioned the fact that the blade was shorter and handle slightly longer.
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Kippax bats have shorter blade and longer handle, which is well known. But what can as a surprise to me is the overall length is 1cm shorter than a standard short handle bat. Everyone of the new kippax bats I have seen have been the same. Anyone else noticed this? Seems like they are copying off the Pakistani bat makers, in an effort to reduce weight and increase size.
Think that's the case for the colossus but isn't the pure blade full length? Have a mate who use a colossus, he's 6'6 and he doesn't notice it (plus to be fair he's a clean striker of a cricket ball so it absolutely flies!).
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Surprised by the comments as I thought it was well known the blade is slightly shorter and the handle longer on the colossus. It's obvious as soon as you pick the bat up but imho shouldn't make much difference when you bat with it (haven't used it myself but use harrow length blades, then again I'm only 5'7).
As for omitting it from marketing of the bat, how many others do on there bats? The Joker bat was a harrow width and was never mentioned. Isn't the GM Mana a shorter blade as well, don't think it's mentioned. You don't get a big piece of wood without cutting some corners.
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Agreed it is a well known fact the bat has a shorter blade and a longer handle. But what is not so well known is that the overall bat length is 1cm shorter. So same size as a CA cricket bat, which would make it a small mens or academy size bat. Producing bats like these for young players that are 6ft 1 is probably not going to help improve there game.
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Agreed it is a well known fact the bat has a shorter blade and a longer handle. But what is not so well known is that the overall bat length is 1cm shorter. So same size as a CA cricket bat, which would make it a small mens or academy size bat. Producing bats like these for young players that are 6ft 1 is probably not going to help improve there game.
Nope, not good if you are 6'1! Never looked at the overall length, have they just cut the nobbly bit off the top? If that's the case I'd argue apart from counter balancing it didn't serve much use anyway, unless you use it to grip the handle.
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Nope, not good if you are 6'1! Never looked at the overall length, have they just cut the nobbly bit off the top? If that's the case I'd argue apart from counter balancing it didn't serve much use anyway, unless you use it to grip the handle.
The Aldred bat I have had this. The knob bit is easily half the size of all the other bats I have
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As for omitting it from marketing of the bat, how many others do on there bats? The Joker bat was a harrow width and was never mentioned. Isn't the GM Mana a shorter blade as well, don't think it's mentioned. You don't get a big piece of wood without cutting some corners.
http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx (http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx)
Blade lengths should be advertsied in my opinion, but if the bat is the correct size overall it isn't a massive issue.
The suggestion is Kippax is shorter overall, which is something i expect to see from a CA when someone brings it in to have its shonky handled fixed.
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[url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx[/url])
Blade lengths should be advertsied in my opinion, but if the bat is the correct size overall it isn't a massive issue.
The suggestion is Kippax is shorter overall, which is something i expect to see from a CA when someone brings it in to have its shonky handled fixed.
Sorry I missed it! Apologies to GM!
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When I first saw this I thought it maybe a made to measure bat, but I have seen half a dozen and all are the same 1cm shorter overall. I agree this should be advertised and the buyer should be made aware. As the young lad who was using said bat thought it have been customised specifically for him and he was 6ft 1.
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[url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/range/adult_bats/mana-f45-dxm.aspx[/url])
Blade lengths should be advertsied in my opinion, but if the bat is the correct size overall it isn't a massive issue.
The suggestion is Kippax is shorter overall, which is something i expect to see from a CA when someone brings it in to have its shonky handled fixed.
is there a standard SH overall length, I've always found it to be pretty variable.
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33 and half inches is the standard length for a short handle. There is no issue with making bats shorter as long as you make your customers aware of this. Otherwise it falls in to the realms of false advertising, plus these bats are not cheap.
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If I remember on Wednesday I'll take a photo of one at nets
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Just line one up with a normal short handle bat and see how they measure up.
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I was always under the impression that the PureBlade is just a standard SH bat and the Colossus is a SH length bat with longer handle and shorter blade?
Anyway, this topic made me dig my tape measure out and have a look.
It appears that........ The PureBlade is just a standard SH bat and the Colossus is a SH length bat with longer handle and shorter blade!
For anyone that's picky, the Colossus is perhaps one sixteenth of an inch shorter than the PureBlade. All SH bats I've had from various manufacturers generally fall somewhere between 84 & 85cms and both these bats fall within that category.
Pics :
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I was always under the impression that the PureBlade is just a standard SH bat and the Colossus is a SH length bat with longer handle and shorter blade?
Anyway, this topic made me dig my tape measure out and have a look.
It appears that........ The PureBlade is just a standard SH bat and the Colossus is a SH length bat with longer handle and shorter blade!
For anyone that's picky, the Colossus is perhaps one sixteenth of an inch shorter than the PureBlade. All SH bats I've had from various manufacturers generally fall somewhere between 84 & 85cms and both these bats fall within that category.
Pics :
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The mystery is solved 😄
@Andythomo21 see you are still left with a impressive kippax collection! Would you mind some profile comparisons and letting me know what you think. Always wondered what the colussus plays like based on the edge / spine size etc
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Is it my imagination, or do a couple of those look thinner than the others?
(It's probably just the camera angle...)
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Is it my imagination, or do a couple of those look thinner than the others?
(It's probably just the camera angle...)
Interesting!! I never actually measured width. Does these mean I'm going to have to get the tape measure and bats out again? :D
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Interesting!! I never actually measured width. Does these mean I'm going to have to get the tape measure and bats out again? :D
If you need an excuse ;)
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@Ams4287 I'll get some profile pics on when I can.
The Colossus 2nd from the left is the bat I've been netting with this winter and used for the last couple of games of last season. I've bought a few other bats and used them in the nets briefly but when I picked the Colossus back up, it made my mind up for me and I don't know why I'd been looking for anything else really. It flies, the size of the bat seems to give you more confidence at the crease and it really doesn't pick up like the weight it is.
I've pretty much decided that the Colossus will stay, one of the PureBlades will stay, my old trustworthy Nixon will stay and everything else can go. B3, Blank Bat, Aldred. All good bats but just won't use them!
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If you need an excuse ;)
Used my Colossus and the first PureBlade I pulled out of the cupboard. Both measured 109mm top, middle and bottom.
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Using the same 2 bats, a few profile comparisons :
Colossus :
Weight - 2lb 14.1oz
Shoulders - 25mm
Edges - 48mm
Spine - 57mm
Toe - 27mm
PureBlade :
Weight - 2lb 13.2oz
Shoulders - 20mm
Edge - 41mm
Spine - 60mm
Toe - 25mm
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Used my Colossus and the first PureBlade I pulled out of the cupboard. Both measured 109mm top, middle and bottom.
Tut tut, 108 is the legal limit!
Everyone get an ultra wide Kippax ASAP ;)
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Thanks mate, both big old bats!
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Well I ruddy want a Kippax even more now!! Do they have anything in 2.8? Haha
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Well I ruddy want a Kippax even more now!! Do they have anything in 2.8? Haha
If you went to Kippax direct they could probably do you a light PureBlade?
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Tut tut, 108 is the legal limit!
Everyone get an ultra wide Kippax ASAP ;)
:D Haha. Not sure of the accuracy with the old metal tape but unfortunately I dont have any digital calipers!
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If you went to Kippax direct they could probably do you a light PureBlade?
Can you still go through Kippax directly? I used to have a couple of Leviathan bats years ago which I loved dearly and was looking into getting a Pureblade but was put off the fact that they were being sold exclusively through Allrounder.
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Can you still go through Kippax directly? I used to have a couple of Leviathan bats years ago which I loved dearly and was looking into getting a Pureblade but was put off the fact that they were being sold exclusively through Allrounder.
Allrounder is the only retailer who sells Kippax but you can deal with them directly via phone, email or arrange a visit.
They don't have an online shop directly though.
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Visit them, they love a good chat and might do you a deal.
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Visit them, they love a good chat and might do you a deal.
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Would love to, just too far away.
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85.1cm or 33.5 inches is a standard short handle bat. with a tape measure the metal tab is always loose giving you an extra 5mm's or so. You will find that kippax bats are 1cm shorter than a standard short handle bat in terms of overall length, so basically the same size as a CA. Any one with a kippax bat simply line it up with a standard short handle bat and you will see the difference. If you are below 5 ft 1o this will probably make no difference, 5ft 11 and above you may struggle with digging out yorkers. Kippax make some cracking bats none the less. I do prefer there older shapes with the domed profile and smaller edges. They really did fly and were available in very light weights 2lb 6-7 and above. I think anything above 40mm and it becomes over kill especially if you are taking the meat out of the middle through concaving to achieve this. My preference is spine over edge than edge over spine.
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The metal tab on a tape measure is meant to be loose. It's how you use a tape measure properly.
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85.1cm or 33.5 inches is a standard short handle bat. with a tape measure the metal tab is always loose giving you an extra 5mm's or so.
Disregarding the rest of the post, we have an early contender for comment of the day!
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Disregarding the rest of the post, we have an early contender for comment of the day!
I hope this is sarcasm Cam?!
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I hope this is sarcasm Cam?!
By the fact you had to ask this clearly went over your head (Or you don't know how a tape measure works...) ;)
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By the fact you had to ask this clearly went over your head (Or you don't know how a tape measure works...) ;)
Whats a tape... What did you call it?
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don't know if anyone's still following this - but i stopped in at allrounder cricket in sheffield yesterday (while GM rep was visiting - interesting discussion)
i measured the Kippax Colossus against their other bat and a GM and GN short handle bat - all the same length
cheers
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