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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: procricket on April 27, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
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Well I'm glad to bring you a forum offer which is great value for money and a very good product.
Here are some examples
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Butterfly willow well I'm not going to steal the Doctor thunder who will be on here very soon to explain what butterfly is or is not to dispel many rumors which exist about the product.
We will not be selling these from any other source bar the forum so grab a bargain these are a few pictures of the top layer of butterfly clefts i saw when i was down there.
There will be actual pictures of the bats very soon as there going to be made into a DB1 shape to keep the weight down because believe it or not most butterfly willow is heavier than it's cleaner cleft encounterpart due to the butterfly stain weighing more than normal sap or heartwood but there are exceptions to this rule.
You can select your handle shape and the weight of the bat and potentially the look of the bat as more pictures will come online over the next few days.
The DB1 shape is this
DB1
The Doctor describes this as a modern shape which has proved a very popular shape over the last few years amongst the pro's. With a mid to high swell position, combined with the pronounced scoop profile the DB1 really is a bat that picks up really nicely, still maintaining a very large edge size. A comment that we hear a lot is look at the size of that and "how light is this" in our showroom when people pick this beauty up. This bat is suited to the all round play maker who likes to hit the ball.
The scooped profile allows mass to be removed without sacrificing the edge or spine height allowing us to achieve big looking, lightweight bat.
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Now i can assure you these where not hand picked as the best butterfly there where of the top of the rack and now another good point price
118 in store
125 posted Uk mainland
These are in limited number contact me or Butterfingerz if you want one i know the quality of the clefts and pressing and the price is bloody good price.
Cheers to Rob Cook for holding the willow out for us.
Thanks for looking
Dave
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What stripe will these bats be or is there a set butterfly sticker?
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Nope they will carry no stripe Tony they are a special forum only type offer exclusive to the forum mate.
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Ah right Dave. Can you chose which end of the cleft you want handled? Just because theoretically if there was a butterfly cleft with a big stain at one end of the bat if you got that end handles it should improve the pick up as there's more weight up top
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Nope these will be pre made bats which the Doctor will decided what is best for each bat mate. After all he is the expert but I like the way your thinking Tony and that point has been talked about but there more to I than that the doctor will be on in the next few days to talk clefts and so forth mate.
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Just wanted to further clarify, do you have to select the DB1 profile or can you use one of your own that was created previously to suit your specific requirements (I assume B3 still saves the profiles designed by their customers previously).
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Gutted its db1 profile only. Was interested until i read that.
Will have a word with streaky regardless this week. As im gonna have to phone regarding a handle.
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Just wanted to further clarify, do you have to select the DB1 profile or can you use one of your own that was created previously to suit your specific requirements (I assume B3 still saves the profiles designed by their customers previously).
We certainly do keep every shape ever made the number on your handle is your code a very good point that mate and one which will be clarified.
But because of the weight of your initial cleft the bat would not be the same if you get my meaning.
I like the idea of other shapes made it is a work in progress but was advised only DB1 which i like as a profile on offer so we can make them up and have them ready.
Plus the aim was to keep the price down as Bespoke and Custom in the other ranges cost more hope this help but i do see your point about shapes already on the machine.
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Nice profile, is that a new updated db1 profile as b3 get to investigate and research optimum profiles... I know they are big on innovation.
or has it always been like that?
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Nice profile, is that a new updated db1 profile as b3 get to investigate and research optimum profiles... I know they are big on innovation.
or has it always been like that?
There will be a topic up very soon John explaining profiles mate.
Plenty of research has gone into profiles and shapes.
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We certainly do keep every shape ever made the number on your handle is your code a very good point that mate and one which will be clarified.
But because of the weight of your initial cleft the bat would not be the same if you get my meaning.
I like the idea of other shapes made it is a work in progress but was advised only DB1 which i like as a profile on offer so we can make them up and have them ready.
Plus the aim was to keep the price down as Bespoke and Custom in the other ranges cost more hope this help but i do see your point about shapes already on the machine.
Thanks for the reply mate. Could I also ask then if the clefts you have selected for this offer could cater to a wide variety of weights. For example, I use bats north of 3 lb whilst most other people would use much lighter bats.
Also if I could ask from a pricing perspective, do you take the VAT off for non EU residents on this offer as well (I know B3 do generally based on my previous order).
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Nice profile, is that a new updated db1 profile as b3 get to investigate and research optimum profiles... I know they are big on innovation.
or has it always been like that?
There is a great video on YouTube where they explain the series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5D5meG9lA8
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118 is serious coin when only using a 10 priced cleft.
Aldred charges a lot more for a butterfly bat...I think it's around £175 so I think it's reasonable
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An item is only as worth as much as someone is willing to pay. I am sure at £125 there will be a huge amount of interest. I'd have liked it if you could have a choice of clefts etc. But I am sure the boys at B3 won't disappoint you
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There not £10 pound either maybe about time Western Suburbs comes out with his real name.
We stand behind the price as we say it is competitive there are cheaper and there are dearer this is our product and we stand behind it just like the other makers do and i can't speak on there behalf but we do not put out bad equipment we do our best for customers and people should know me by now i will not just put up any old crap. I will not say i'm butterfly willows biggest fan but i wouldn't turn my nose at it either in our price range it is priced under the 1 stripe so fits the structure.
But subjective questions are most welcome we have a open house policy at B3 hope that helps mate.
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The DB2 profile would have been nice
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An item is only as worth as much as someone is willing to pay. I am sure at £125 there will be a huge amount of interest. I'd have liked it if you could have a choice of clefts etc. But I am sure the boys at B3 won't disappoint you
Matt maybe not clefts but no bat will leave without you selecting out of a selection mate.
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The DB2 profile would have been nice
I know what you mean Tony our only worry would be getting the weight down in that profile as butterfly is heavier but never say never mate it was a thread to just show you guys what is on offer and create a interest but all questions as you know I will respond too.
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Yeah that's a fair point mate, cheers for taking the time to answer my questions mate appreciate it Dave
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Right had a few enquiries maybe I could have been clearer.
Db1 shape only and they will be made up bats bar the handle and you decided the handle.
We want to keep the costs down so it will be only this shape and will be able to be selected on the weights we have.
Hope this all helps the shape is designed to give a better pick up that's why db1 has been selected.
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How heavy is heavier weights ... Say 2.10 upwards?
I've never had a butterfly so might be interested in one if they aren't super heavy
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How heavy is heavier weights ... Say 2.10 upwards?
I've never had a butterfly so might be interested in one if they aren't super heavy
John I will not know until there machined mate but we shall know more when there done.
I suspect 2-9 upwards though but might get the odd special one lighter.
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118 is serious coin when only using a 10 priced cleft.
How much is a G1 cleft? How much do G1's sell for? Significantly higher markup on those.
£118 for a bat made by a boutique brand in England, it's very very well priced.
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Agree with you there Tom. I just think prices in the world of James/ Lekka are alot different to the real world.....
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How much is a G1 cleft? How much do G1's sell for? Significantly higher markup on those.
£118 for a bat made by a boutique brand in England, it's very very well priced.
I though so too but as the forum sponsors new boys i guess we will accept it and move on.
We will be running another forum day i hope many can come along to see the process and understand the sheer knowledge and skill both in the machine and traditional field we have and I fully understood one thing that you do not work in this field to get Rich you do it because of the people around you the customers too and the great stories and legends of old it either in the blood or it isn't.
But where would we be without a few detractors recently we had a customer service issue and because of customers of this forum the loophole was filled and better working practice has prevailed.
Must add we are one of the few who make all our bats and i mean all our bats on our premises.
What you see with us is what you get I'm a customer at heart.
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I have got some good news over the next few days The Dcotor will come on and explain but because so many expressed a intrest but in other shapes the offer will be open to a few shapes including All B3 sponsored players that include Stephen Mullaney and Will Bragg and Greame Wagg plus a few other special shapes. How streaky intend on doing it is revaloutionary and i will leave it to him to explain it baffled me... :(
So well done the forum speak and we will listen..
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I have got some good news over the next few days The Dcotor will come on and explain but because so many expressed a intrest but in other shapes the offer will be open to a few shapes including All B3 sponsored players that include Stephen Mullaney and Will Bragg and Greame Wagg plus a few other special shapes. How streaky intend on doing it is revaloutionary and i will leave it to him to explain it baffled me... :(
So well done the forum speak and we will listen..
We were going to keep this simple and offer the Butterfly grade in one shape (the DB1) and make these up (into bats) and then offer them on the Forum, but after discussing with ProCricket I think you guys wanted a bit more choice in the design. So I have had a think, and have come up with an idea of offering you more choice. Below is a few designs both Series and a few of our sponsored players that you can choose from;
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Now there are two things that dictate bat weights 1. Model/Shape and 2. Density of willow, so we can say the Model is fixed when you choose from one of the above. Now the desity varies as Willow is a natural product, and as ProCricket has already said in this thread Butterfly timber is in general more dense than other grades. If we assume the same Density (400) for the above designs the weights would be;
Ref. Model Weight * based on 400 Density
A. DB1 2lb 9oz
B. DB2 2lb 11oz
C. DB3 2lb 10.5oz
D. Bragg 2lb 10.5oz
E. Mull 2lb 12.25oz
F. Wagg 2lb 12oz
G. #1271 2lb 15oz
An increase in Density of 10 increases the weight by approximately 1oz, so for a Density of 410, a DB1 would weigh 2lb 10oz, or a Density of 390 a DB2 would weigh 2lb 10oz.
So if I post a picture of a few Butterfly clefts with the Densities written on them, you should be able to work out what each shape would weigh with particular clefts and densities. We can do all of this for the same price previously quoted and you can still customise your bat (handle length & shape, sticker colour etc).
Does that make sense?
Streaky
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That's an awesome offer streaky! Plus also explains the intricacy that goes into each bat made! Some lovely shapes on offer too, not quite sure who uses the 1271.....
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An incredible offer, if you have a few >370 density ones, I would love to go for a 1271! ;)
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An incredible offer, if you have a few >370 density ones, I would love to go for a 1271! ;)
I want one as well look like we got good taste mate :D
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Awesome.Very tempted to get one.
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So what does a cleft with a density of say 400 weigh?
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D. Bragg 2lb 10.5oz
E. Mull 2lb 12.25oz
G. #1271 2lb 15oz
If you can do any of these in a finished 2lb 8oz then I will take one. Obviously if you can knock it in then even better.
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Hi Guys (ProCricket or The Doctor),
Good to see an innovative and professional outfit pushing the boundaries of cricket bat design.
Would it be possible that you show us some actual real life profile pictures (instead of CAD) of the following shapes - DB2, Mull05 & Wagg shapes….. or maybe all the shapes for the interest of other forum members.
Keep up the great work….
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I have got to get back to this thread :D ...placeholder :P
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We were going to keep this simple and offer the Butterfly grade in one shape (the DB1) and make these up (into bats) and then offer them on the Forum, but after discussing with ProCricket I think you guys wanted a bit more choice in the design. So I have had a think, and have come up with an idea of offering you more choice. Below is a few designs both Series and a few of our sponsored players that you can choose from;
([url]http://i61.tinypic.com/mk7p77.jpg[/url])
Now there are two things that dictate bat weights 1. Model/Shape and 2. Density of willow, so we can say the Model is fixed when you choose from one of the above. Now the desity varies as Willow is a natural product, and as ProCricket has already said in this thread Butterfly timber is in general more dense than other grades. If we assume the same Density (400) for the above designs the weights would be;
Ref. Model Weight * based on 400 Density
A. DB1 2lb 9oz
B. DB2 2lb 11oz
C. DB3 2lb 10.5oz
D. Bragg 2lb 10.5oz
E. Mull 2lb 12.25oz
F. Wagg 2lb 12oz
G. #1271 2lb 15oz
An increase in Density of 10 increases the weight by approximately 1oz, so for a Density of 410, a DB1 would weigh 2lb 10oz, or a Density of 390 a DB2 would weigh 2lb 10oz.
So if I post a picture of a few Butterfly clefts with the Densities written on them, you should be able to work out what each shape would weigh with particular clefts and densities. We can do all of this for the same price previously quoted and you can still customise your bat (handle length & shape, sticker colour etc).
Does that make sense?
Streaky
Looks like the I will have to go for a DB1. Just one question, when will these bats be available ?
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I have some clefts coming up we have a new deliver coming these are the ones left.
Picture in 5 minutes
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Great to hear that you guys have decided to expand the choices on the Butterfly bats.
DB2, Wagg and #1271 (though a bit heavy) look real good.
Looking forward to some user reviews and real bat pics of the profile.