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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: Millyjack on June 27, 2014, 10:59:26 AM
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Hi Guys,
Interested to hear how your overseas are doing this year? Ours is undoubtedly a good player, hasnt really got great figures as of yet but is what I would call high maintenance!!
Worth the hassle in your opinions??
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Who's yours mate?
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Would rather not say! I was more interested in are they good/worth the hassle!!
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a good pro preforms on the pitch and also off it through coaching and working with youngsters. If they dont do the latter its a bit of a waste of money in my opinion. A lot of pros struggle early on as the wickets are a little soft.
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We had a woeful one last year. Biggest waste of space ever. Turned up as a leg spinning all rounder and took 15 wickets and couldn't buy a run. In my experience, and I've no doubt I'm going to be hugely controversial here but if you're going to bring across a young player, make sure he's a Saffer, if you bring across and experienced player, make sure he's an Aussie. Indian and Pakistani players will work their socks off for very little reward, but in my experience, struggle a little with the social side.
My view is spend the air fare on putting some young, keen players through their level 2, and increase marketing of youth setup!
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Ours does play a high level but also interested in folks tales of club overseas that come over, do they fit in, get the club banter etc
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My current club doesn't do pro.
But I was at a club that tried the pro thing out.
First year, aussie batsmen. Great guy great player. Scored a ton more or less every Saturday and 50 plus on Wednesday.
Spent everyday at the club either helping ground man or coaching with all the junior sides.
He even set up his own events, and took youthful teams on a tour down south.
Worth every penny.
2nd year, an auntie batsmen. Averaged 29, didnt score a single ton.
Neither attend a net, never helped with youth. And ran off at the end off every game to get hammered down town.
Waste of space.
They actually stopped after that as put them off a little.
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We have had loads of overseas in my time. And for the most part have been extremely lucky! IMO would take a young Saffer every time, wouldn't consider a young aussie. Worst overseas we've ever had was a Canadian bloke, who was pretty hopeless. Came over as a wk, I ended up replacing him in the 2's, as a 14 yo. That's how bad he was lol!
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I think West Indians are the best
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Never had a West Indian actually. Can imagine they are just the right blend of fun and commitment?
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We don't have overseas in our league but Kendal, my nearest Northern League team, have had Jamie How for two years and he has been excellent by all accounts. Breaking records with the bat and contributing to the coaching and development of the junior teams off the field, as well as attending any number of functions. Previous pros in Kendal have included Jacque Kallis and Herschelle Gibbs when both were around 17 - 18. Both broke records left, right and centre and Kallis is still spoken of highly in Kendal as a great all round bloke. Gibbs - bit of a wild one!
Kendal also have a West Indian guy called Terry Hunte who has played for them for over 30 years. Came over as an overseas and never went back! He is Kendal's record run scorer and still scoring consistently well although he's now in his 50s. Never quite made it in the Windies but during the 70s that was a big ask.
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Remember Mark Boucher playing with me at Lancaster in the 90s - before he broke into the big time, but he was absolute quality.
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I hope this doesn't turn into a c*ck-measuring contest...
We've have had Aussie U/19 players for the last 2 years, both are on contract at NSW. Before that we had Craig Ervine, who left mid-season as he had been selected for the Zim squad. Our league is fortunate to attract some good pro's, over the last few seasons, in the league we have had:
Glen Maxwell
Luke Ronchi
Michael Carberry (coming back from injury)
Lionel Baker (West Indian)
Maxwell opened the batting against us and hit the first ball of the game over cover for 6, then got out!
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Maxwell opened the batting against us and hit the first ball of the game over cover for 6, then got out!
Hope he got a send off!
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Ours is a borderline alcoholic from New Zealand.
Absolute lad!
Hell of a swing bowler mind! Gets it going around corners!
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Best story with an overseas was actually at a mates club. The Pakistani Faisal Iqbal didn't say a word during a game and the skipper had no idea where he would fit in the team. Apparently he was never actually given a batting spot, he would just go and pad up (whether he felt it should be at 3 or 8) and come out of the dressing room saying "Im ready to bat". :)
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Our best was a Kiwi too - he'd played for Otago a few times, turned up one day on a mate's recommendation and asked if he could play a few games as a batsman. During his first game we were getting flayed to all parts and the skipper asked if he bowled at all - "aw mate, I can turn my arm over" - which amounted to ragging his off breaks square!
Best thing was he was always first to the bar, and famous for having to leave the field mid innings because he'd "followed through" a little too hard!
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Our best was a Kiwi too - he'd played for Otago a few times, turned up one day on a mate's recommendation and asked if he could play a few games as a batsman. During his first game we were getting flayed to all parts and the skipper asked if he bowled at all - "aw mate, I can turn my arm over" - which amounted to ragging his off breaks square!
Best thing was he was always first to the bar, and famous for having to leave the field mid innings because he'd "followed through" a little too hard!
Sounds about right.
First thing ours asked our opener was "Are you f*cking gay or something?" (In the nicest possible way) when he said he doesn't drink.
After taking 5 wickets a few weeks ago (Off 12 consecutive overs), he was disgusted that one of the youngsters brought him a pint of water when he was gasping in the changing rooms, asking him "What is this? This neither looks like, or smell like, a beer... However I will forgive you on this occasion. However, do not make the same mistake again, young man!" As you can tell, he loves a bit of banter.
We don't pay him. He has moved here with his family as his wife is English, he is a former Central Districts player (A good few years ago - by his own admission), but the value he adds to the club is brilliant.
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We've been fortunate at my club in the last 2 season's, last season had a Western Australian player, opening batsman and was just sheer class, and outstanding value on a night out! This year we have a Sri Lankan first class leg spinner who is worth every penny both on and off the pitch. One of the best clubmen I've seen in a long time!
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im not here to show off but mines wazza, known as wasim jaffer.
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We have had quality overseas for the past 6 seasons. This years one is a young Aussie who is a great laugh, good cricketer as well. Previous two season we had a bloke who broke the league record for runs! And previous to that we had a Staffa/Italian who has stayed with us ever since moving here!
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We've had a few good overseas, the best player was 'the dentist' (I've mentioned before), but best value has to be Aussie grade players, they get really involved in the club, are more than good enough as an overseas for our level and love a beer.
Best overseas I've played against is Wasim Akram, quick and accurate. I also played against Junior Murray in his pomp, his batting wasn't upto much but his keeping was unbelievable, he stood up to and took everything. His party piece was taking pinged in throws from the boundary behind his back in the warm up.
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Only met our proper overseas once this year and he was a bit quiet.
Decent player though (as you'd expect from a Zinbabwe U19)
Our pseudo overseas (Bermudan international but lives in England, so not registered as an overseas (so cannot therefore play 1st XI)) has scored a few this year. He looks as if he has so much time to play the ball though.
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Only met our proper overseas once this year and he was a bit quiet.
Decent player though (as you'd expect from a Zinbabwe U19)
Our pseudo overseas (Bermudan international but lives in England, so not registered as an overseas (so cannot therefore play 1st XI)) has scored a few this year. He looks as if he has so much time to play the ball though.
wasim Jaffer is the boss
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We have had loads of overseas in my time. And for the most part have been extremely lucky! IMO would take a young Saffer every time, wouldn't consider a young aussie. Worst overseas we've ever had was a Canadian bloke, who was pretty hopeless. Came over as a wk, I ended up replacing him in the 2's, as a 14 yo. That's how bad he was lol!
Who was this guy Nick? AB initials? if I got the correct guess. Attitude is a major problem here no work and a huge sense of entitlement, everyone thinks of themselves as a superstar but are useless playing against decent teams.
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wasim Jaffer is the boss
Can anyone shed some light on how this was a constructive post to the topic?
I know I post some absolute rubbish but this takes the biscuit! ;)
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I think this should have been a reply to a previous post that Jaffer was mentioned in. :-[
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Can anyone shed some light on how this was a constructive post to the topic?
I know I post some absolute rubbish but this takes the biscuit! ;)
Takes the biscuit?
No, jaffa's not a biscuit , it is a cake.
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So much hating on young Aussies :P
When I went over I started playing village cricket but wanted to improve so left for the kent league and played for nothing. I love my cricket and really don't think I'm good enough to warrant being paid! Got to play premier league and play 3 games a week that was all I needed to keep happy! Personally loved playing the Wednesday night stuff and Sunday games as enjoy playing with the younger lads and friendly banter is more tolerated with the youngsters - not quite so serious!
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We've had a few good overseas, the best player was 'the dentist' (I've mentioned before), but best value has to be Aussie grade players, they get really involved in the club, are more than good enough as an overseas for our level and love a beer.
Best overseas I've played against is Wasim Akram, quick and accurate. I also played against Junior Murray in his pomp, his batting wasn't upto much but his keeping was unbelievable, he stood up to and took everything. His party piece was taking pinged in throws from the boundary behind his back in the warm up.
thats john maynard isn't it. pretty sure hes down in kent this year playing for linden park?
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So much hating on young Aussies :P
When I went over I started playing village cricket but wanted to improve so left for the kent league and played for nothing. I love my cricket and really don't think I'm good enough to warrant being paid! Got to play premier league and play 3 games a week that was all I needed to keep happy! Personally loved playing the Wednesday night stuff and Sunday games as enjoy playing with the younger lads and friendly banter is more tolerated with the youngsters - not quite so serious!
I remember playing against you! played for the mote?
To be fair mate you were far too good for us that day.
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Takes the biscuit?
No, jaffa's not a biscuit , it is a cake.
Actually, a jaffacake is a biscuit.
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I remember playing against you! played for the mote?
To be fair mate you were far too good for us that day.
Yes mate that was me! Was that the game where it was really wet? I think I pinned one of your batsmen with a bumper? (Sorry mate!) you were using a H4L?
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our last 2 have been great,
last years was a 19 year old who we got just as the season started and we knew he'd only be able to play 2Xl prem, but he did a great job and was a great clubman coaching twice a week.
this years is just your perfect overseas, opening bowler, trains twice a week, coaches the kids once a week, great on the social side of things, is at the club every day as assistant groundsman and then goes and takes 4+ wickets every saturday! cant ask for much more
both of them young aussies, so some must be alright :D ;)
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Yes mate that was me! Was that the game where it was really wet? I think I pinned one of your batsmen with a bumper? (Sorry mate!) you were using a H4L?
Yeah man, raining all the time. Yeah man that was me and im glad you still remember bouncing my mate out!
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Actually, a jaffacake is a biscuit.
No its not.The clue is in the name ;)
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Actually, a jaffacake is a biscuit.
Cakes start soft and get hard when they get old.
Biscuits start hard and get soft.
A Jaffa Cake does to fist, therefore IS A CAKE
Proper science stuff that!!!!
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Cakes start soft and get hard when they get old.
Biscuits start hard and get soft.
A Jaffa Cake does to fist, therefore IS A CAKE
Proper science stuff that!!!!
Ah, but if you go to a supermarket and look in the cake aisle, you'll not find one. Mewanwhile in the BISCUIT isle....
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In the United Kingdom, value added tax is payable on chocolate-covered biscuits, but not on chocolate-covered cakes.
There is no vat paid on Jaffa cakes, therefore they are cakes in the eyes of the law. They evidently went to court in 1991 to prove this and they won! So they are a cake.
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I think I have to go with the majority of evidence presented here and side with Jaffa Cakes being cakes, for the following reasons:
1. As Pete Hosk states, HM Revenue & Customs class Jaffa Cakes as cakes for tax purposes.
2. They are (initially at least) soft like cakes.
3. Their name contains the word 'cake'.
Admittedly they inhabit the biscuit aisle in most leading supermarkets, but if McVities want to position Jaffa Cakes in the biscuit aisle to maximise sales then that, as Bobby Brown would no doubt say, is their prerogative.
This thread may have veered slightly away from its original subject matter... ;)
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In the United Kingdom, value added tax is payable on chocolate-covered biscuits, but not on chocolate-covered cakes.
There is no vat paid on Jaffa cakes, therefore they are cakes in the eyes of the law. They evidently went to court in 1991 to prove this and they won! So they are a cake.
Their proof was that biscuits go soft when stale, while cakes go hard when stale - just sayin
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That's quite enough discussions about Jaffa cakes now guys. Every post I read, I feel more and more hungry! :(
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Absolutely Pete...but I just want to finish by saying that the M&S version of Jaffa Cakes is well worth trying, slightly crispier chocolate coating ;)
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Top tip CP!
And we could probably merge the subjects by seeing what the overseas players think about Jaffa cakes, and whether they have this particular chocolate-coated delight back home ;)
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Top tip CP!
And we could probably merge the subjects by seeing what the overseas players think about Jaffa cakes, and whether they have this particular chocolate-coated delight back home ;)
Or whether they have tried the Costa giant Jaffa Cakes made with Belgian chocolate, which are, quite frankly, divine!
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As an Australian, I have seen them in a store once, at an overpriced grocer.
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Excellent shout Tim...the giant Jaffa Cakes are a thing of beauty. As for the M&S jaffas, Pete, they are rectangular pieces of orangey choclate perfection...often on special offer too.
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I think this has to be one of my most favourite threads. :D
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Unfortunately, M&S have chosen to do their current rectangular Jaffa Cakes in Passionfruit & Peach flavour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Idiots.
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How can it call itself Jaffa if it isn't orange?????
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A few pages of seriously excellent discussion already... and we haven't even started on the whole Penguin v Tim Tam debate!!!
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....anyway... our pro is a lovely 19yr old from nz. helpful,friendly,great with the young kids who look up to him and after struggling in his first 4 innings now has 280 runs in last 3 knocks all n.o.
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More importantly, what's his biscuit or cake of choice?
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Passion fruit and peach!!! That's a disgrace...I am deeply disappointed at that news. Hopefully McVities would never stoop that low.
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A few pages of seriously excellent discussion already... and we haven't even started on the whole Penguin v Tim Tam debate!!!
Not even a debate, as a current Sydney dweller the Tim Tam is a thing of beauty. I currently have a stock of their salted caramel filling ones... the only word I can use to describe them is sexual (Note to the mods: Does the word sexual fall under our banned word list? If so can you please edit it to say something equally as praiseful!)
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As a person who spent 6 months in Australia, a Tim tam is better than a penguin by a landslide mile! Perfect dipped in tea
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As an Australian, you CANNOT beat a salted caramel Tim tam.
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Tim Tams - bite off opposite corners and suck your coffee through them - can't beat it!!!!
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thats john maynard isn't it. pretty sure hes down in kent this year playing for linden park?
Yeah that's him, have you played against him this season?
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Tim Tams - bite off opposite corners and suck your coffee through them - can't beat it!!!!
Too right, tucking in to a tim tam and flat white.. a little piece of heaven ;)
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White chocolate tim tams are best.
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Tim Tams - bite off opposite corners and suck your coffee through them - can't beat it!!!!
THIS. a thousand times yes! This man knows
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Believe it's called a Tim Tam Slam/Tim Tam Explosion and is best done with Tea, as per Natalie Imbruglia in an interview with Graham Norton 8 years ago...
Natalie Imbruglia's Tim Tam Explosion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMbrlxTIVtI#)
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thats john maynard isn't it. pretty sure hes down in kent this year playing for linden park?
Had the pleasure of keeping to the dentist for the second half of our 2012 season. To get people gloving off round their ears down the leg side on a surface that normally sees waist high bounce at very best was something remarkable.
Of the many quality bowlers i've kept to, he did the most with the ball in the air and off the seam. I dread to think what he was capable of in his day, the odd effort ball when someone annoyed him left me with sore hands. The most natural, flowing, almost languid action i've seen up close. His flat under/round arm throws from the rope over the top of the stumps with a causal wrist flick were impressive also.
To add to the Tim Tam comments, they are part of the reason for my 3 stone weight gain during my year or so in Aus. 3 stone i've never really managed to shake off...
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Had the pleasure of keeping to the dentist for the second half of our 2012 season. To get people gloving off round their ears down the leg side on a surface that normally sees waist high bounce at very best was something remarkable.
Of the many quality bowlers i've kept to, he did the most with the ball in the air and off the seam. I dread to think what he was capable of in his day, the odd effort ball when someone annoyed him left me with sore hands. The most natural, flowing, almost languid action i've seen up close. His flat under/round arm throws from the rope over the top of the stumps with a causal wrist flick were impressive also.
He is a top fella, natural cricketer. I think we were his first overseas club around 1995/6, he was frightningly quick, all shoulders. If it wasn't for his bad boy ways he would have been in the windies test team, but they weren't short of pace at the time with Ambrose etal so he lost out. Today he would walk into the windies side. People still talk about him in our club to this day and he occasionally comes back for a game. He hit the biggest cut 6 I have ever seen, it went out of our ground over a main road and over a 4 story block of appartments and was still on the way up! He also bowled Russ Collard who was on an Essex contract at the time with a yorker that ripped out middle stump and sent it back verticle about 10 meters before it started spinning, I'd never seen that before or since. The ironic thing was Russ had edged the ball before and was given not out, our keeper ran up from the boundary and advised Russ to duck, he did but lost his middle stump.
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I'm friends on facebook with him, he usually posts a few cricket related pictures/videos as well as his passionate thoughts about St Kitts & Nevis politics!
Saw these just this morning actually, still got it!
(http://i.imgur.com/deIFRqzl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8OkqkUIl.png)
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He's still got it :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1138483/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Englands-egos-bruised-wont-visit-The-Dentist.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1138483/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Englands-egos-bruised-wont-visit-The-Dentist.html)
http://www.alloutcricket.com/cricket/features/the-ten-fleeting-quicks (http://www.alloutcricket.com/cricket/features/the-ten-fleeting-quicks)
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Am I right in thinking the dentist played a few games here in the Craven League for Connonley. Remember facing some big West Indian an if I'm not mistaken he was nicknamed the dentist. Hit me on the pads and bloody hell did I feel it