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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: procricket on August 07, 2014, 09:19:12 PM
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Well after designing the DW I wanted to create something else with smaller edges and a massive spine yet have maximum wood in the blade.
I came up with this..
My cleft which Streaky had saved for me is a 364 and the finished weight of the bat will be around 2lb 8oz with a massive oval handle.
30mm edges at the highest point with a 60mm spine zero concaving.
I have left the wood at the top to equal out balance in the way the famous 1271 profile did.
Here the Cad.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2qtafxy.jpg)
Here the loon who helped me design it.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2hnyjkh.jpg)
This is open to everybody and i have to say what a service.
All feedback welcome..
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Too much Indiana Jones tonight with that name Davey ??? :-[
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Either that or DW2 ..
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Not far off what I'd be looking to do although I would go with smaller edges and a higher spine
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Nice shape, very similar to the Sirius profile.
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Nice shape, very similar to the Sirius profile.
Not so sure on that buddy lot bigger up top near the handle and much bigger shoulders more like the 1271 mate up top bar a 5mm drop on both the spine and shoulder than on my 1271.
Also spine is set at 14inch from the top as it my main hitting area found on my 1271.
But thanks mate i guess it will become more clear when it comes out think DW1 mixed with 1271 ..
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Could you not move the middle higher and redistribute some of the shoulder wood towards the toe. Just thinking at your height you must hit the ball higher up.
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Could you not move the middle higher and redistribute some of the shoulder wood towards the toe. Just thinking at your height you must hit the ball higher up.
No for pick up i like the weight high in the shoulder and in the spine near the handle Why weight in the toe.
No amazingly 14inch down is my pinnacle of power over 2k runs have passed through my bat and bar the 14-13 inches down centrally there no cracks the middle is battered.
I hit the ball most in that area.
Here is where it started the design..
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31392.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31392.0)
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Nice design Dave, would love to see the actual bat :)
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Nice design Dave, would love to see the actual bat :)
It is in production mate
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No for pick up i like the weight high in the shoulder and in the spine near the handle Why weight in the toe.
No amazingly 14inch down is my pinnacle of power over 2k runs have passed through my bat and bar the 14-13 inches down centrally there no cracks the middle is battered.
I hit the ball most in that area.
Here is where it started the design..
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31392.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31392.0[/url])
I thought somebody said the sweet spot was just below the middle, which would mean the middle needs lifting an inch of so higher?
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Cracks are at 14inches Nick mate it clear as day on my 1271 why would I move it.
This bat is prefect for me I feel this is the 1271 direct replacement.
I see your logic but I designed this for pick up and power over lightness and think I will get what I want.
The 1271 has the same middle position it worked for me wit that so no need to change it.
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Cracks are at 14inches Nick mate it clear as day on my 1271 why would I move it.
This bat is prefect for me I feel this is the 1271 direct replacement.
I see your logic but I designed this for pick up and power over lightness and think I will get what I want.
The 1271 has the same middle position it worked for me wit that so no need to change it.
but Dave if I'm right, then moving the middle up the blade would only enhance pickup and power.
Quick get it off the machine lol
Just mucking around Dave :D
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but Dave if I'm right, then moving the middle up the blade would only enhance pickup and power.
Quick get it off the machine lol
Just mucking around Dave :D
Your right but that why it has big shoulders and a 40mm spine running in to the handle it got machined will get pictures mate.
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Please remember a couple of inches of the toe
(http://i58.tinypic.com/m79w1t.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/sllnvl.jpg)
Very happy with how it starting to turn out it hard to gadge from a picture but the spine near the shoulders is 40mm the shoulders at 14mm when finished
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Can do the weight distribution from CAD machine to give you the perfect balance? I guess what I mean is does it give you the % number on weight distribution on the bat instead of you just checking the design visually?
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Will this profile work for low , mud pitches mate ?
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Can do the weight distribution from CAD machine to give you the perfect balance? I guess what I mean is does it give you the % number on weight distribution on the bat instead of you just checking the design visually?
You get a eye for balance or i should say Streaky does we can attain pick up then we can select the handle which is the correct weight.
That's correct we get handles to suit because there variants in there weight too.
Of the bats designed this has a lot going for it in balance terms, Not much weight around the toe and more weight around the shoulders and spine into the handle but not too much away from my hitting area which is big for a 2-8 bat.
Yes you could split the bat in half and find the center of weight and adjust accordingly to improve if you wished but Streaky has the eye.
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Will this profile work for low , mud pitches mate ?
It would but i would want the spine maybe going down a tad more towards the toe.
But even on slow low pitches which i encountered in India last year i found i hit the ball still higher than i though.
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You just have a knack of designing profiles I like... :-[ Which of the profiles, DW1 or DW2 has the bigger volume? I think I prefer the DW1, but that may be the ridiculous one Easby is getting that is swaying my judgement!
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You just have a knack of designing profiles I like... :-[ Which of the profiles, DW1 or DW2 has the bigger volume? I think I prefer the DW1, but that may be the ridiculous one Easby is getting that is swaying my judgement!
Chad not sure i suspect the DW2 might have with the shoulders and big spine in fact a 400 density DW2 would be around 2-12 so they would be pretty similar mate.
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It nearly here a full review will be done not a great looking beast but Streaky has told me it up there with the best they have ever produced and should be a real winner
2-8 and a half...
Inspired by the 1271
spine at top of shoulder 40mm
edge at pinnicle 31mm
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2cz9b3b.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2qnsaaf.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2iqbckw.jpg)
He has promised me this will be my number 1 bat due to it performance
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Nothing beats 1271 from B3 :P.
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Seems like this is a very slightly toned down 1271 with thicker edges! What would the weight of one of these be with a standard 400 density cleft?
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As the owner of 1271 a true one i tend to agree Uzair it is based on the 1271 with meat all over agree the volume on the 1271 is as big a bat as anything.
Well 2-12 it would come out around mate.
My personal favourite profile made is a mix between Brokenbats and the DW1 and the DB1 but i have quite a few.
Shoab also designed a very nice one too
1271 in crown though is very special
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Is 1271 the trott bat?
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Very nice looking bat Dave, nice thick handle too. I like the very subtle bow which to me looks more down to handle position than actual bow. Just enough wood off the toe for a nice pick up too? ;)
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Is 1271 the trott bat?
Actual Bat
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Nice shape, very similar to the Sirius profile.
As I said looks very different from your bat mate which is also a nice profile
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Dave, you have bat's pic with stickers ?
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Not yet it still at HQ awaiting my arrival mate.
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Got the beast today and a few pictures too of a few crown clefts i will put up. Saw some sample softs we have in we are moving up the gears
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(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ch1206.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/k3wqxc.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2d0idg4.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/261m646.jpg)
We have a 3 stripe ready to go in this profile at 2-10.
This was made out of a 362 butterfly very happy with it it a cross over 1271 and a more traditional full profile massive 18cm circumference oval handle
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Possible to see a picture of the sample softs?
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Not yet but soon if your coming to the birthday they should be some samples around then
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You'd think for all the effort they go to they'd be able to put the edge tape on properly without it getting wrinkled!!
Looks a cracking bat tho!!
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i love the look of this bat. im was planning for a similar shape when i try making my first bat. basically a full profile and a lowish middle. hopefully i can make it.
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You'd think for all the effort they go to they'd be able to put the edge tape on properly without it getting wrinkled!!
Looks a cracking bat tho!!
It not the edge tape and it is what i applied mate..
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Big fan of this shape Dave. I think I prefer this over your DW1 shape
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This is my match bat for next season i like it too mate..
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I think I need to get one in this shape to go with my dw1!
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TO put the bat size in to perspective.
Pink kalimar 2-9,,DW1 Proto , 1271 modified
Hope you can see the cross over from the 1271
(http://i59.tinypic.com/egs1uh.jpg)
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The design
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2qtafxy.jpg)
The Bat
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2d0idg4.jpg)
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Stop it Dave, you're doing that accidental sales job on me again haha!
Love those pink stickers too
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I bloody don't the wife told Streaky to do it and did it....
Not overly keen but it only a sticker
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His missus chose them for him, I don't think he's quite man enough to leave them on.....
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I bloody don't the wife told Streaky to do it and did it....
Not overly keen but it only a sticker
It takes a real man to wear pink, or weild a bat with pink stickers ;)
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Nowt wrong with pink!!
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/6500524ea966312a72181b77bc18f119_zps4e197d4a.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/6500524ea966312a72181b77bc18f119_zps4e197d4a.jpg.html)
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good to see you are a Warburtons man Dave - banana sarnies for tea?
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i love pink on my kit never seen a problem with it.
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Dave - how many mm of scooping? 1mm?
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It takes a real man to wear pink, or weild a bat with pink stickers ;)
Camper than a row of pink tents, pitched on a field of lace doilies...
I'm joking of course. Nothing wrong with pink :)
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Dave - how many mm of scooping? 1mm?
Around that many claim no concaving but the truth is if it has a spine their concaving of some sort.
But as you see a very full profile middle is 14in from the handle about the same area my 1271 started cracking it where i hit the ball the most.
I hear you may have something bubbling
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Around that many claim no concaving but the truth is if it has a spine their concaving of some sort.
Surely not... Dead flat on both sides would produce a distinct spine (think of a triangle). As in fact could a convex profile that wasn't fully smoothed over.
Profile looks good, think I preferred the look of the DW1 though!
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Around that many claim no concaving but the truth is if it has a spine their concaving of some sort.
Sorry dave, I'm calling you out on that one. I have a load of bats from the eighties that have no concaving and clearly have a spine. The two are not linked.
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TO put the bat size in to perspective.
Pink kalimar 2-9,,DW1 Proto , 1271 modified
Hope you can see the cross over from the 1271
([url]http://i59.tinypic.com/egs1uh.jpg[/url])
The shoulders on that trott bat are nice and meaty!! My type of handle
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Sorry dave, I'm calling you out on that one. I have a load of bats from the eighties that have no concaving and clearly have a spine. The two are not linked.
Well kind of but if you have a spine you can't of have to have some cutting.
Look at a tour a rounded shape it has no concaving because of the convexing.
My theory rightly or wrongly if it has a spine it has cutting to have a spine as it will be raised.
Not splitting hairs and Interpritation but a spine is not natural or should I say fin bigger the fin the more concaving is my termanology
Yes concaving tends to be more central in the two corridors either side and the spine is slightly different but to have a spine cutting wood must have occured.
Otherwise it would be convex backed like a tour and a few others.
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Well kind of but if you have a spine you can't of have to have some cutting.
Look at a tour a rounded shape it has no concaving because of the convexing.
My theory rightly or wrongly if it has a spine it has cutting to have a spine as it will be raised.
Not splitting hairs and Interpritation but a spine is not natural or should I say fin bigger the fin the more concaving is my termanology
Yes concaving tends to be more central in the two corridors either side and the spine is slightly different but to have a spine cutting wood must have occured.
Otherwise it would be convex backed like a tour and a few others.
Aye, but ito get to a Tour, you have to do some cutting and there is no concaving there. If you didn't do cutting you'd just have a cleft.
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My new favourite bat this badger I now understand what streaky has said about it and understand the stiffness and how it goes like a bomb.
My favourite profile currently well with another I have seen streaky working on.
Will hopefully be showing a few more prototype shapes very soon