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Companies => Custom companies => Topic started by: dingbatsports on September 03, 2014, 11:21:38 PM

Title: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: dingbatsports on September 03, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
Hi All,

Just saw this one pop up on Facebook! Yet another newbie!  :-[

https://www.facebook.com/BossCricketBats?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/BossCricketBats?fref=ts)

Seams to be the combination of two current boutique brands which is interesting. The most recent post offers people who have always wanted their own brand to get involved and become part of it (like being an agent I suppose), which is an interesting idea I think. Bats look not bad, particularly if they max out at $300. Be interesting to see some more activity from them though...

Anyone else seen it or know anything of it?

Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 03, 2014, 11:34:41 PM
"For a relatively small investment you can join the Boss family and benefit from our manufacturing, marketing and general industry expertise and know how. In return you will own your immediate region and be given the support of 2 professionally run cricket companies. Funds generated by investing into Boss cricket will be returned back to the brand (Boss) for R&D, marketing, sponsorships, sampling and trips to manufacturing plants for quality control.

As a partner of Boss Cricket you will access excellent buy rates to successfully run your dedicated region. As a co-operative group of partners, our buying power and combined volume will put the brand in a strong position to serve each partner with unparalleled benefits not possibly obtained by going it alone. Any assistance needed will come from regular partner meetings where we can discuss techniques and strategies to grow your Boss brand in your specific region."

So you're effectively giving them money for R&D of the brand, then you have to buy your stock from them on top??
Not sure what the insentive to buy into this is really...
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Rowan on September 04, 2014, 01:19:58 AM
Bats look almost identical sticker wise to Grove and Steeden offerings this year.
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: sarg on September 04, 2014, 02:42:47 PM
Nice stickers.
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Manormanic on September 04, 2014, 06:08:45 PM
wow, having had chance to look at the facebook stuff now I'm shocked at the audacity. 

basically reads "we want to sell low end bats above their value and charge you for the privilege of buying from us. by the way, we nicked the designs from Spartan"
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: iand123 on September 04, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Stickers look like a slazenger/spartan hybrid
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Focus Cricket on September 05, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Hi guys, hope all is well, the sun is shining and everyone is having a superb day.

Good to see some nice positive feedback on Boss Cricket  :). Obviously a few people think that something sinister is going on however it couldn't be further from the truth.

The Boss concept has been started with the idea of forming a joint venture project where people who are interested, can get involved with a brand if they wish to choose so. 
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Neon Cricket on September 05, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
I wonder, would you share all your "exclusive" contacts with the investor? If you did they would be quite able to just go around you and set up their own brand from the contacts you've provided - and then undersell you as they wouldn't be paying your premium prices?

The concept is flawed, the collaboration idea isn't awful as you will get the advantage of a brand covering a large proportion of the world (and quickly) but for me it's the lower grade idea - presuming you're getting your bats out of India then we both know that the difference in price between a Grade 3 and Grade 1 bat is only about £30 from the majority of the big India manufacturers, thus cutting out a large amount of potential profit. By the time you've added your premiums to these prices any 'investors' will be coming up against other 'budget/lower priced' brands selling G1 bats for the same price as your G3/G4's.
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: The Palmist on September 05, 2014, 02:29:10 PM
we both know that the difference in price between a Grade 3 and Grade 1 bat is only about £30 from the majority of the big India manufacturers, thus cutting out a large amount of potential profit.
There's a reason all of my bats are made in the UK and this is one of them.

what is the respective difference in UK then
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: mattw on September 05, 2014, 02:35:42 PM
Admins, I believe you can not self advertise on this forum if you're not a sponsor. Please delete the appropriate messages.
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Neon Cricket on September 05, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
what is the respective difference in UK then

Not too far off the overseas prices to be honest - difference is it's a premium product so higher prices can be justified compared to the brands who get their bats from overseas.

I've edited my previous post and removed anything that could be deemed promoting too.
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: roco on September 05, 2014, 02:47:11 PM
Don't think he meant you

By the way neon liking the new gloves and stickers you sent my mate after his handle went look nice in flesh
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Neon Cricket on September 05, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
By the way neon liking the new gloves and stickers you sent my mate after his handle went look nice in flesh

Cheers Roco - don't suppose you're referring to Barker? Went to uni with him - great lad!
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: roco on September 05, 2014, 03:15:09 PM
Yes barker the errmmmmm supposed batsmen haha

Although he took 6 wickets opening bowling for me last week but got a 2nd ball duck haha

The gloves looked really nice though really high protection
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Neon Cricket on September 05, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
6 wickets??? I'd get a drugs test done right away! haha

Thanks for the comments too, always good to hear feedback
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: roco on September 05, 2014, 03:30:21 PM
Unbelievable green wicket

1st wicket was full toss that got hot to point
2nd wicket full toss that hit top of off stump

Not greatest spell but they just kept playing stupid shots lol

Praise given where due if I like something I will say and gloves really good (although he thought pittard was the maker of the glove haha)
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Manormanic on September 05, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
well this has gone off topic rather...which may not be such a bad thing!!!
Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: roco on September 05, 2014, 08:01:50 PM
Sorry I thought it needed livening up

Title: Re: BOSS Cricket Bats
Post by: Focus Cricket on September 06, 2014, 12:56:43 AM
I wonder, would you share all your "exclusive" contacts with the investor? If you did they would be quite able to just go around you and set up their own brand from the contacts you've provided - and then undersell you as they wouldn't be paying your premium prices?

The concept is flawed, the collaboration idea isn't awful as you will get the advantage of a brand covering a large proportion of the world (and quickly) but for me it's the lower grade idea - presuming you're getting your bats out of India then we both know that the difference in price between a Grade 3 and Grade 1 bat is only about £30 from the majority of the big India manufacturers, thus cutting out a large amount of potential profit. By the time you've added your premiums to these prices any 'investors' will be coming up against other 'budget/lower priced' brands selling G1 bats for the same price as your G3/G4's.

Hi Neon, thanks for your constructive feedback, I just love you positive outlook on all things cricket on CBF.

In relation to the first point, yes your correct, an area partner could potentially go behind our back and do his own thing however that would be defeating the purpose of the joining the group and all the forseeable benefits associated with it. By going it alone, their volume will be very small compared to the group and hence their service and support will suffer as a consequence. We all know what service is like in the cricket industry and how this can impact brands with late deliveries, incorrect sampling, bad backup support, etc, etc - volume is key to a healthy relationship with manufacturers. Additionally, we live in a free world and people can choose whatever they want to do, but hopefully our partners a genuine enough to understand the benefits associated with a joining the group - walk into an established brand without having to invest individually into branding, sourcing, sampling, marketing, etc, etc which can run into thousands of dollars/pounds. Lets not forget about greater and more economical opportunities in marketing and sponsorship by sharing it as a group.

In relation to bat pricing, we are not only offering lower grade bats, partners can access higher grade bats if they choose to - there is no limitations on the grade available. Partners can operate Boss in whatever way they think will benefit their area best - we do not want to stifle entrepreneurialism. Personally, i'm choosing to only offer lower grade bats in my area because my main brand will accomodate all the higher grade specifications. I'm using Boss to satisfy the basic club cricketer who wants well branded, cheap no frills cricket equipment and in return they will get a bat beautifully pressed that will out perform many of the off the shelf bats that have been pressed to an inch of their lives (too hard) and lack up front performance.
Each area partner will be sufficiently far enough away from the next partner to do as he chooses.

Finally, i'm not sure where the concept of premium prices has evolved. Prices will reflect the necessary components to grow, evolve and re-invest into the brand for its longevity. This is not a car boot sale, every component of pricing needs to factor a small margin into it for re-investing back into the brand for it's long term direction and sustainability. We are not concerned about the small garage brands because they come and go every day of the week through poor business management.

I hope i had shared a more positive outlook.