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Title: No more teas
Post by: radiomark on November 18, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
Just heard that the East Sussex Cricket League is giving teams the option of not supplying teas anymore.
everyone just brings their own lunch and pays less in match fees.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: FvanN on November 18, 2014, 06:52:38 PM
Thats a pants idea. Teas is probably the most enjoyable part of cricket :)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: smilley792 on November 18, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
I'd move leagues.



1 team suggested this at a league Agm, no other team even seconded it for it to go to vote.

Teas rule!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 07:00:24 PM
Why bother turning up if you don't get teas?
You could get run out without facing, or get a duck, as a batsman thans waste of a day.
If you only bowl a couple of overs and go for a load, day wasted.

Teas at half time, the only thing guaranteed (and often the best part of the game!)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Kal on November 18, 2014, 07:16:18 PM
Call me old fashioned but Teas are integral to playing the game at the weekend.

I know people are time and money sensitive but this tradition shouldn't die out...
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Stuey on November 18, 2014, 07:28:54 PM
I may be going against the grain but im in favour. Its a nightmare trying to finding people to do the teas, we have 4 sides and a Sunday side, in the first team we get a banquet because one of our younger players parents come to watch so they also do teas. But for the other teams the players do it, so you might as well bring your own. Also saves a lot on costs.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ppccopener on November 18, 2014, 07:42:42 PM
Oh my days this is the beginning of the end,once one league does it everyone will follow-we in middlesex have already had a proposal to 'scrap' teas
Over the years I can't honestly say my teammates and I have not had some right pedigree chum but once In a while a fixture like Shepperton CC comes up which makes up for all the inedible sandwiches thru the County.
If there is anyone from that club on here what a fantastic tea you get there.
I'm a batsmen but that day it was ' skip ive just caught a glimpse of teas I'll go 8 and won't be fielding much'
The cricket tea is part of the game surely?
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: FattusCattus on November 18, 2014, 07:46:36 PM
I am disgusted by such a suggestion.

In fact I'm so upset by this, I'm off to make a sandwich!!!!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Lwesty143 on November 18, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
You occasionally get a tea not worth paying for but most clubs attempt to put on a decent spread!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
You occasionally get a tea not worth paying for but most clubs attempt to put on a decent spread!
A crap tea is better than no tea at all!

We had a couple of stinkers last season but the fact the other team had made an effort was enough (although the lack of cakeage one week was inexcusable!)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: TBONTB on November 18, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
Just roughly what is the cost of a tea? Roughly. 5/10 per person?
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 08:08:53 PM
Just roughly what is the cost of a tea? Roughly. 5/10 per person?

£50 from the oppo so about that, bargain!  :D
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: DACD 1987 on November 18, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Might as well all come ready changed, wear shorts, coloured shirts and boots, play for 2 x 45 minutes and call it football instead.  :(

A cricket tea is an integral part of the game as was a slice of orange when I played rugby.

God a feel old and grumpy tonight.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 18, 2014, 08:20:12 PM
£50 from the oppo so about that, bargain!  :D

£50?? From the oppo a lone is the reason I'd vote to scrap them. The cost is ridiculous for what you actually get. If both clubs pay half (so in this case 50), then you'd expect 100 quids worth, otherwise you are charging them for tea and they aren't getting 50's worth.

I say bin it myself, save time and money.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 08:22:32 PM
£50?? From the oppo a lone is the reason I'd vote to scrap them. The cost is ridiculous for what you actually get. If both clubs pay half (so in this case 50), then you'd expect 100 quids worth, otherwise you are charging them for tea and they aren't getting 50's worth.

I say bin it myself, save time and money.

You've clearly never had a decent tea, £50 is a bargain for some of the teas we churn out, and we've had some where £5 each seemed like a steal!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 18, 2014, 08:26:21 PM
You've clearly never had a decent tea, £50 is a bargain for some of the teas we churn out, and we've had some where £5 each seemed like a steal!

I've had the range thanks, from substandard few crusty sarnies, tesco readymades to full cooked teas. £50 quid per team is too much.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: smilley792 on November 18, 2014, 08:28:33 PM
40 quid per team a tea in our league (set by league committee)

So that gets 11 players a scorer and 1 ump a team. 13 into 40 is 3.07 each.

Not many places to get tea for that much these days. Well worth it imo
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 18, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
40 quid per team a tea in our league (set by league committee)

So that gets 11 players a scorer and 1 ump a team. 13 into 40 is 3.07 each.

Not many places to get tea for that much these days. Well worth it imo

IF it's a really good hot tea, with copious amounts etc then yes. However, I suspect of you took,20 clubs at random.. Most don't have hot food etc.. They are bog standard sarnies, cakes etc.. 80 quids worth?? Not on your nelly. I like good teas and if most were actually value of be for them, however having done the thirds tea this year for them I've seen what you can do and how little it actually costs.. Even hot stuff is cheap tbh.l chips, nuggets, pizza etc are cheap as
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
IF it's a really good hot tea, with copious amounts etc then yes. However, I suspect of you took,20 clubs at random.. Most don't have hot food etc.. They are bog standard sarnies, cakes etc.. 80 quids worth?? Not on your nelly. I like good teas and if most were actually value of be for them, however having done the thirds tea this year for them I've seen what you can do and how little it actually costs.. Even hot stuff is cheap tbh.l chips, nuggets, pizza etc are cheap as
Where did £80 come from?
We charge £50 to the oppo to cover teas, pitch, facilities etc.

as for providing hot teas, we don't have the facilities to do it at every ground, so the sarnies, cake, cold pizza, cake, sausage rolls, cake, crisps, cake, other nibly bits (indian goes down well) and cake is a winning formula.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: smilley792 on November 18, 2014, 08:42:41 PM
Where did £80 come from?
We charge £50 to the oppo to cover teas, pitch, facilities etc.

as for providing hot teas, we don't have the facilities to do it at every ground, so the sarnies, cake, cold pizza, cake, sausage rolls, cake, crisps, cake, other nibly bits (indian goes down well) and cake is a winning formula.

He was replying to my post. The one up there^^^ he even quoted it. Do you read all the replies cam?
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 18, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
Where did £80 come from?
We charge £50 to the oppo to cover teas, pitch, facilities etc.

as for providing hot teas, we don't have the facilities to do it at every ground, so the sarnies, cake, cold pizza, cake, sausage rolls, cake, crisps, cake, other nibly bits (indian goes down well) and cake is a winning formula.

But it's a charge for teas isn't it? Not for the ground etc? (£80 was by saying if you charge £40 to the oppo then your team should pay £40 so that's £80 to the teas..

Believe me, I'm not actually anti tea as its nice to have the little social in the middle of the game BUT the prices teams charge is silly and most aren't worth it. Hence, overall I'd vote to scrap them. I will say that should that happen the first thing I'd push my club to do is 'free' food for our teams post match to make up for it.

Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 08:46:16 PM
He was replying to my post. The one up there^^^ he even quoted it. Do you read all the replies cam?

Yeah, I read them - after they're pointed out and i've made a dick of myself usually...  :-[
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 18, 2014, 08:51:31 PM
But it's a charge for teas isn't it? Not for the ground etc? (£80 was by saying if you charge £40 to the oppo then your team should pay £40 so that's £80 to the teas..

Believe me, I'm not actually anti tea as its nice to have the little social in the middle of the game BUT the prices teams charge is silly and most aren't worth it. Hence, overall I'd vote to scrap them. I will say that should that happen the first thing I'd push my club to do is 'free' food for our teams post match to make up for it.

I didn't read the post about £40 each properly... haha  :-[
We charge £50 to the opposition at our club to cover everything, with the actual tea budget £40-45 (depending if you need to get milk, sugar, squash etc.) so our match fees go towards the pitch and whatnot.

Knowing what I can produce for £40 an £80 tea budget should be a banquet for between innings! (Or at least not consist of everything in the supermarket value range...)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Mattsky on November 18, 2014, 08:51:55 PM
I'm mentally traumatised at the thought some mealy-mouthed bean counters are even considering this idea, let alone propose it as some kind of solution to enhance cricket.
Such people inhabit a grey, desolate wasteland bereft of joy and imagination. They are not cricketers.
I need a lie-down.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on November 18, 2014, 09:07:59 PM
Having made many a tea over the years having captained sat and Sunday sides you can make a perfectly good tea for 26 people ( 22 players, 2 umpires and scoreres) for £40.

8 fresh begets £7
80 frozen sausage rolls £5
Packs of Ham,cheese,chicken etc £7
Fruit £6
Crisps £3 multi packs
Cakes £7
Squash, milk, tea bags £5

From that lot at any supermarket its a decent lunch. Or you can make shepherds pie. Lasagne etc for that amount easy enough. Main thing is to have a kitchen to cook hot stuff and prepare in. We have one person per week who spends £40 which is what the league allow you to charge and then brings to club. We get to home games at 12pm so have plenty of time to prepare tea and warm up etc.

Like has been said cricket tea is a key part. Not just for food but some of the best banter I have been involved in and heard has been round a cricket tea table. 
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: iand123 on November 19, 2014, 07:04:26 AM
As a fat lad I find this news very disturbing.

What would you do if you played away at a team who had chosen not to do teas when you played them at home? Just make your own team something? I assume if the home team has chosen to provide tea the away team is obliged to pay for them and cannot just turn up and say no thanks?
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: The Palmist on November 19, 2014, 07:25:26 AM
Most of the  clubs in my current league have a bar and tea room so teas are always brilliant and  under 3quid.

This was a problem in my previous  league. Clubs  were losing money because they were not selling enough. Setting a minimum buy didn't  get majority  vote. People had no interest  in doing tea as they could go all out and don't  sell any. Many players will bring food from home or go to kfc mcd etc. I would happily  vote  for scraping teas in that league. With many clubs without  running water I think  hygiene  was a major issue as well. So I can see where this proposal  is coming from, if the clubs don't  want to do teas let them be.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Stuey on November 19, 2014, 07:54:44 AM
Our league doesn't charge the oppo as we play each other home and away so you cover your own costs. We pay our 1st team tea lady £60. Our local rivals use an outside caterer and pay £100 and are getting ripped off. I open the batting so never get much of a tea anyway as either batting or fielding.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: tim2000s on November 19, 2014, 08:06:12 AM
We have a full on kitchen and catering, so our teas include freshly cooked pizza, chicken nuggets, sausage rolls, etc. So we have no problem paying for tea and neither do the opposition!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ppccopener on November 19, 2014, 08:25:36 AM
We have a full on kitchen and catering, so our teas include freshly cooked pizza, chicken nuggets, sausage rolls, etc. So we have no problem paying for tea and neither do the opposition!

can you send the joining forms please Tim! :)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: trypewriter on November 19, 2014, 08:57:51 AM
Just heard that the East Sussex Cricket League is giving teams the option of not supplying teas anymore.
everyone just brings their own lunch and pays less in match fees.

The horror! The horror!  :o
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: jwebber86 on November 19, 2014, 09:03:47 AM
we dont charge the oppo in our league as we play home and away and the host team covers it. on the whole they are good enough.

surprisingly the club with the newest/club house did the worst teas. most clubs spend £30-£40. usually all cold but they all make an effort. one club even gave us ice creams this season :)
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: roco on November 19, 2014, 09:23:47 AM
we cover our own costs as above and give tea people budget of £50 which gets a decent spread evry week as some of the wives are expert bakers so copious amounts of cake

on the odd occasion a tea lady drops out we do tea for 2 where every player brings enough tea for 2 people and has less match fee charged

if no teas im retiring or just playing t20 as I need the rest between innings as much as anything

if a team says they are not doing teas ill just stay at home thanks
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 19, 2014, 09:55:45 AM
To whoever thinks this is a good idea, there is a simple solution.
Stop, think - what would Dwayne Levrock do??
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: FattusCattus on November 19, 2014, 10:07:10 AM
Go to the fried chicken shop under his flat!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: TBONTB on November 19, 2014, 10:09:33 AM
While in LMS tea is not usually the done thing. We have been know to provide home made Malted Milk biscuits and/or token beers to the oppo. I would however think that after a long innings some form of sustenance would be needed. If cooking facilities are available surely 20 pizzas and some sandwiches, job done!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: skip1973 on November 19, 2014, 11:32:56 AM
Tea's are a bit of as pain here, unless you have a few mums or wives that are keen it's a hassle. Our players just bring enough for 2 rather than charge. I would be happy to see them go.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: uknsaunders on November 19, 2014, 11:49:56 AM
We played a few Sunday games last season when we had a snack (tea/biscuits) for tea and then had a tea laid on at the pub across the road, after the game. He did some nice hot food and it was a good way of getting the oppo back to chat and socialise.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Seniorplayer on November 19, 2014, 12:08:31 PM
Knowing whats invovled in doing teas it's not a bad idea as upto  2013 my wife did club teas but it was a long day shopping in the morning preparing food at home transporting to the ground preparing and serving  24 teas at the ground  washing  up  cleaning up etc  she was given 30.00 per match to buy food which is what the league stated the opposition should pay for teas but she was always out of pocket as she wanted to be seen to provide a proper tea.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: radiomark on November 19, 2014, 01:12:23 PM
I think fewer people are willing to spend extra time and hassle buying and preparing the stuff.
I'm vegetarian so I'm essentially paying 8 quid for a cheese roll ,tea and cake.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: farnham_quins_2 on November 19, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
I think fewer people are willing to spend extra time and hassle buying and preparing the stuff.
I'm vegetarian so I'm essentially paying 8 quid for a cheese roll ,tea and cake.

Simple answer, don't be vegetarian :) Or just have your fill of cake, normally the best bit anyway...

On a sensible note, I see why the idea of scrapping teas might gain support if you play against teams that seem to make no effort in this department. But if all the teams are encouraged to do a good spread, then everyone else will, and everyone benefits. Nothing worse than turning up at a ground and seeing a few sandwiches, a packet of crisps and a sausage roll pretending to be tea.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: mdg20 on November 19, 2014, 04:51:48 PM
I wouldnt be that bothered to see teas go. As a keeper / opening batsmen no matter what happens i will be padding up and getting ready to do something at tea. Last thing i want to do is stuff my face. At most ill have a piece of fruit and/or a slice of cake.
If food was provided after the game instead bit like football id be all over that. 
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Woodyspin on January 06, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
Just heard that the East Sussex Cricket League is giving teams the option of not supplying teas anymore.
everyone just brings their own lunch and pays less in match fees.
Just read this what team do you play for? Sounds ridiculous although paying £50 for teas when clearly the oppo hadn't spent £5 on it is frustrating to say the least

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Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: joeljonno on January 06, 2016, 09:51:11 PM
Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I would be for scrapping teas and having post-match food instead, such as pie and peas or sausage and chips (for those who have cooking facilities).  Those that do not could provide sandwiches post match to go with the post game drink.. Will keep teams around for a bit at least.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: dcullen8 on January 06, 2016, 10:10:40 PM
Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I would be for scrapping teas and having post-match food instead, such as pie and peas or sausage and chips (for those who have cooking facilities).  Those that do not could provide sandwiches post match to go with the post game drink.. Will keep teams around for a bit at least.
Quite like this idea, 7/10 times teas are terrible in my league (one club even have each player bring 2 teas each!!) bring a sarnie or two and have some warm food after the match
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: kenbriooo on January 06, 2016, 10:29:22 PM
A problem with hot teas after a game is the varied time that some games can finish. Nothing more frustrating than chasing someone up to get the curry on!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Jaffa on January 06, 2016, 11:25:48 PM
Like a few others on here,  in our league the home team puts on a spread
Luckily we all see it as a bit of pride by putting on a decent spread for the guests.
Last season because a game was postponed the other team used our kitchen for the second match.

For teas we also cook hamburgers. The idea is that it's cheap for what it is and also the oppo can't move after eating them. Problem is, they look so good we have them as well.

We do it on a rota system. That also goes for tea after training for lads who come straight to the club after work. I normally make sausages and bacon swimming in baked beans with a few spices and tabsco thrown in with Turkish bread. A proper man meal methinks.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: bruggers100 on January 07, 2016, 04:14:10 PM
No teas, what is the world coming to !  Traditionally my main meal of a Saturday (when I play).  Hopefully, we bowl first, so I can gorge on decent tea. 

Nothing more disappointing than a poor tea though.

Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: uknsaunders on January 07, 2016, 04:33:43 PM
I would retire if there was no teas.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: rickjames on January 07, 2016, 04:35:27 PM
I'd be quite happy if it took down my match fee, 99% of the time it's just a spread that's similar to being at children's party. Eurgh.

During tea I'll just sit in the dressing room and focus on the next session, because I like winning so much.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: northernboy1987 on January 07, 2016, 04:42:06 PM
I think I'd bat better chasing without teas, one because I wouldn't have stuffed myself with naff sarnies and cake and two I'd hit the ball 3 x as hard due to the inexplicable rage coursing through my veins due to the lack of teas.
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: ppccopener on January 07, 2016, 05:06:01 PM
playing devils advocate here and keeping my personal views out of it(no tea-no comment) but if it was scrapped would the game be more attractive to youngsters?
maybe they would prefer post match cokes and hamburgers or whatever

most of the time when we have youngsters in the team sat or sundays they give the tea a right hammering so it looks to me like they like it.

tea break on Saturday league for us is only 20 mins thou which I have to say is rubbish, if your opening you got enough time to have half a tetleys and then get padded up plus a fag/vape/pint.

Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: dcullen8 on January 07, 2016, 05:20:01 PM
If every club tried put on a good spread there wouldnt even be an argument. The tea lady at my previous club tried to make £15+ profot from teas, jesus it was garbage!

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Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: uknsaunders on January 07, 2016, 05:24:11 PM
If every club tried put on a good spread there wouldnt even be an argument. The tea lady at my previous club tried to make £15+ profot from teas, jesus it was garbage!

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Can be done with the right use of rice/pasta/salad/veg/bread/fruit. However, most people are too lazy to do it all by hand and want a prepacked solution - and it costs!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: dcullen8 on January 07, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Can be done with the right use of rice/pasta/salad/veg/bread/fruit. However, most people are too lazy to do it all by hand and want a prepacked solution - and it costs!
Unfortunately the team used to dread the "tesco everyday value 24pk of crisps coming out" as you sat down..
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Neon Cricket on January 07, 2016, 05:28:24 PM

tea break on Saturday league for us is only 20 mins thou which I have to say is rubbish, if your opening you got enough time to have half a tetleys and then get padded up plus a fag/vape/pint.

Sounds like a good tea!
Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Woodyspin on January 07, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
Aldi is the best for taste selection and price. I think i even added chicken wings and for well under £45 thats with my own lunch added to it. I find quantity is usually better for teas unless you have bog standad soggy/stale sandwiches. Which i avoid by doing "make your own you lazy (No Swearing Please)" sandwiches

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Title: Re: No more teas
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 07, 2016, 07:41:49 PM
playing devils advocate here and keeping my personal views out of it(no tea-no comment) but if it was scrapped would the game be more attractive to youngsters?
maybe they would prefer post match cokes and hamburgers or whatever

most of the time when we have youngsters in the team sat or sundays they give the tea a right hammering so it looks to me like they like it.

tea break on Saturday league for us is only 20 mins thou which I have to say is rubbish, if your opening you got enough time to have half a tetleys and then get padded up plus a fag/vape/pint.

Same here Carlo 20 mins in between innings  team batted second almost every match so no time for tea so didn't  bother came off the field quick   wash then  siat in the changing room with a cuppa getting  focus and gear on ready to open