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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: smilley792 on February 20, 2015, 10:05:55 PM
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Right. This may go down his bowling and attitude on the pitch route. But not really what I want
What i want to discuss is his batting!!!!
He bottled it this morning. Looked like a scared school kid playing for the firsts. Backing away every ball.
Contrast this too a few years back when he got a ton against pakistan (albeit could have been fixed). He could clearly bat at one point.
We all know the cause to. Mitchell Johnston in the ashes. He did a turn him. And then having his face re arranged by the sri lankan's won't have helped.
So. Does anyone think his batting will ever return to a few years ago? Or is he too mentally gone. And best propong up an order at ten and xi with Jimmy??
Be interesting to hear people's views on his innings against nz too
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He's got the Tattars... loved that nick name
He's gone. He's been done over and hit in the face.. The guy is a coward now. Drop him completely.
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There is the potential to return, but highly unlikely. He needs to work on it one hell of a lot
I think he wants to be a big hitter as well, which won't help.
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He's just low on confidence, like most of the team.
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He's got bad knees
He's cocky
He's arrogant
He's petulant
He's scared of the ball
He's down on pace
He's starting to age
Get rid and bring on someone who at least wants to be there, wants to put their heart and sole into playing.
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it'll be a long road to recovery. it would be nice to see him back but im not holding my breathe
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@ProCricketer1982, You can call him a coward when you have been hit in the face through your helmet by a bowler who bowls at 85mph and then gone back out to face Southee. Till then, I think it's a little unfair.
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@ProCricketer1982, You can call him a coward when you have been hit in the face through your helmet by a bowler who bowls at 85mph and then gone back out to face Southee. Till then, I think it's a little unfair.
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He's a professional cricketer, I am not. I would not pretend I could face these guys. Howver, I'm not a professional cricketer paid to play. So yes, I'd expect more from him than to back away
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Calling Broad a coward is harsh From experience i know how difficult it is to face fast bowling once you have been hospitalized by a fast bowler i would imagine its the same regardless of what standard you play.
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Calling Broad a coward is harsh From experience i know how difficult it is to face fast bowling once you have been hospitalized by a fast bowler i would imagine its the same regardless of what standard you play.
any military on here will know it's hard to go back out int eh field after you've been shot at or a mate gets hit right next to you.. still gotta do it though because you're a professional.
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I've mentioned this far too many times. So it will be the last on here.
December 2013 our quick pinned me with a bouncer and I Ruptured my spleen. I was apparently 2hrs from dying due to blood loss when admitted to hospital.
Despite my spleen not healing till August 2014. I was still opening the batting for our 1sts on April 2014. I was still in pain. My spleen was still repairing itself.
Did I fear the ball? A little, but i merely bought a stretton chest guard and got on with it. And after posting 50 in my first game, didnt fear the ball again.
Was it my most prolific season? No, still scored 500 runs. With 3 50s. And thankfully not once did my skipper or team mates suggest I looked scared off the ball.
So yeah I agree with procricket1982, he's a tad cowardly. As after 15 months since the mitch attack and a good 8/9 months since he took one to the face. He's still scared. Despite this being his profession and 7 days a week access to overcome it.
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Yup
He looks scared(no shame), questions need to be asked about his ability to play and fulfil his contract.
Some have the ability to carry on playing after being hit, some don't
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As a cricket fan, and someone who would give both my nuts to play for england, he is a disgrace. A real lack of fight or passion, far too complacent, and his performances seem to be getting worse. I was physicaly angry watching him try to bat yesterday, it was disgusting
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any military on here will know it's hard to go back out int eh field after you've been shot at or a mate gets hit right next to you.. still gotta do it though because you're a professional.
Yes i know but that's fear not cowardice
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Yes i know but that's fear not cowardice
huh??
What's fear??
Broad has a helmet, pads, gloves, box, chest guard, arm guard and a bat and runs away form 85mph balls.. Now if we were doing that it's fine because we are crap, not pro's and not able to train each and every day (oh and not paid mega bucks to play)... He is a pro, so I expect him to stand there and front up.
by running away he is being a coward. Smiley down there with his spleen would not be in the slightest cowardice to run from teh ball.. he is not a pro, he does not train (I hope :) ) each and every day and isn't paid mega bucks to play cricket.. so yeah, I expect him to back away and think 'sod this, not worth getting injured'.. Broad I expect to stand there and take it.
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huh??
What's fear??
Fear is being scared but doing it all the same.
Cowardice is not doing it at all.
I think Broad should be no more lauded for backing away than any other cricketer. I think it is more pronounced as he is trying to whack the ball too. If he was just to stand there and duck, he wouldn't be 'backing away' as much. What he does is try to hit it inside out, making sure he gets inside the line which makes it more obvious he is getting out the way first then hitting it second.
His main role is to bowl, if he gets injured, he can't do his job. No different to amateurs. In fact, there are some amateurs who have less excuse due to the nature of the job and their sick pay entitlements.
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Fear is being scared but doing it all the same.
Cowardice is not doing it at all.
I think Broad should be no more lauded for backing away than any other cricketer. I think it is more pronounced as he is trying to whack the ball too. If he was just to stand there and duck, he wouldn't be 'backing away' as much. What he does is try to hit it inside out, making sure he gets inside the line which makes it more obvious he is getting out the way first then hitting it second.
His main role is to bowl, if he gets injured, he can't do his job. No different to amateurs. In fact, there are some amateurs who have less excuse due to the nature of the job and their sick pay entitlements.
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He is not 'doing it anyway' though is he?? He's runnign away from the ball! That's 'not doing it at all' in cricket terms.
Sick pay?? not sure hwo much you would get if you went sick but I'm sure he would be very very very well off should say he break an arm etc.. They are insured upto the hilt.. let alone their wages, deals etc etc
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He is not 'doing it anyway' though is he?? He's runnign away from the ball! That's 'not doing it at all' in cricket terms.
Sick pay?? not sure hwo much you would get if you went sick but I'm sure he would be very very very well off should say he break an arm etc.. They are insured upto the hilt.. let alone their wages, deals etc etc
If, for instance, he broke a rib. He couldn't play for a couple of months, he'd lose his match fees and performance bonuses.
If I broke a rib, I could still sit at my desk all day. Even if I couldn't, I get 6 months before I lose any money due to sickness.
I don't watch the cricket that often, but I remember Peter Such 'running' away from Merv Hughes. Broad at least tries to hit the ball.
He is not the only one to lose confidence, especially after being hit in the face. A lot wouldn't come back from that at all.
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If, for instance, he broke a rib. He couldn't play for a couple of months, he'd lose his match fees and performance bonuses.
If I broke a rib, I could still sit at my desk all day. Even if I couldn't, I get 6 months before I lose any money due to sickness.
I don't watch the cricket that often, but I remember Peter Such 'running' away from Merv Hughes. Broad at least tries to hit the ball.
He is not the only one to lose confidence, especially after being hit in the face. A lot wouldn't come back from that at all.
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lets agree to disagree to save the thread just being one long claim and counter claim.
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He is not 'doing it anyway' though is he?? He's runnign away from the ball! That's 'not doing it at all' in cricket terms.
Sick pay?? not sure hwo much you would get if you went sick but I'm sure he would be very very very well off should say he break an arm etc.. They are insured upto the hilt.. let alone their wages, deals etc etc
You are acting as though a cricket ball in the face is nothing. Frankly, getting a ruptured spleen is an unusual accident, but many of us have been hit by quicks to the body. Very few have taken one on the nose.
If he was a coward, he wouldn't have faced a quick bowler in an international arena again. He would simply have said "No". He is firstly a bowler (and was picked to do that role). That he could bat as well was a benefit. He was not their to be the all rounder.
Fear, which is what he is experiencing, is fully understandable and much harder to get over. You come across as having no understanding of psychology, and I'm sure that is not the case. Just because you try and face up to your fears doesn't stop them from existing or having an effect. Whilst we like to think of broad as dumb, he clearly has far more of an imagination than we'd like to credit him with, so he is struggling with the bat.
Whether you are a professional sportsman or someone else doing something dangerous professionally, fear is real and very hard to overcome, no matter how hard you try. Do you honestly think he has done nothing to try and overcome it?
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You are acting as though a cricket ball in the face is nothing. Frankly, getting a ruptured spleen is an unusual accident, but many of us have been hit by quicks to the body. Very few have taken one on the nose.
If he was a coward, he wouldn't have faced a quick bowler in an international arena again. He would simply have said "No". He is firstly a bowler (and was picked to do that role). That he could bat as well was a benefit. He was not their to be the all rounder.
Fear, which is what he is experiencing, is fully understandable and much harder to get over. You come across as having no understanding of psychology, and I'm sure that is not the case. Just because you try and face up to your fears doesn't stop them from existing or having an effect. Whilst we like to think of broad as dumb, he clearly has far more of an imagination than we'd like to credit him with, so he is struggling with the bat.
Whether you are a professional sportsman or someone else doing something dangerous professionally, fear is real and very hard to overcome, no matter how hard you try. Do you honestly think he has done nothing to try and overcome it?
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as I said, agree to disagree or it could go on for ages.
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His bowling doesn't warrant a place IMO so coupled with his batting he is not worthy of his place.....
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Errrr... he's a bowler chaps? Remember he's in the team to do that, bowl. If he's shot as a batsman, ok drop him further down the order, but he's not a batsman anyway! Backing away to quicks isn't exactly something new for him either, he's been getting out like that for years.
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Fed up of seeing him bowl gash halfway down the track. He NEVER learns