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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: procricket on June 02, 2015, 07:01:59 PM
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Well i went down to H today and decided to take a look at a few clefts they where processing a few 3 stripes so left them too it i then had a look at 2 stripe and a few crown which we have hidden in the back!!!
I hope you like the pictures if there anything we can help you with please do get in touch i saw the lowest density i have seen at 340 which is just amazing.
A few 2 stripe quality clefts a random selection.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2epsk5w.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2qd8rkl.jpg)
Now some lovely crowns light as it gets and the lightest i have seen at 340..
340 crown
(http://i59.tinypic.com/33vez4z.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2zq8va0.jpg)
351 crown oversized cleft
(http://i60.tinypic.com/wtzsrq.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2emepo0.jpg)
357 crown
(http://i61.tinypic.com/5odwr6.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/6gaidv.jpg)
370 crown
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2ns6emp.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2py3s4k.jpg)
My personal favourite not everybody cup of team i understand but as pro are using 50/50 and i'm using heartwood currently
370 crown
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2ijrk1l.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2qd1kw0.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/1567q1l.jpg)
and a few random pictures of crown in the back store sorry if this bores people we have currently around 300-500 clefts in just thought i'd show them off including a new batch recently and quite a few waiting to be processed.
(http://i60.tinypic.com/23sahxe.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/10f6xwo.jpg)
Any questions or queries please contact me on here or thought HQ at david@b3cricket.com
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I plan on getting as many clefts as possible up for people to look at please be aware there will be lots
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Some tasty looking willow there.
I know this has been said before, but I have had trouble finding it. If I was after a Trott profile - 1271 - or whatever it is, at around the 2:11-2:12 mark, what sort of cleft weight would I be looking at?
Thanks
Joel
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Joel No bother it at 2-15 and a half at 400 so for 2-12 you would need 365.
Some of this crown will not hang around long ;)
original 1271 bat posts i loved this bat
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23466.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23466.0)
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That's 257 is a bit tasty David, shame I don't have £500 lying around!
I do like a few grains and heartwood after seeing Daves Tonto in the flesh!
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And how much is the crown willow these days?
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If your in the UK it is £500 and if your abroad of course we are vat registered....
Expensive i know but it is rare williow in terms of density if you like big bats in lower weights as i said it not for everybody why we can get some lighter wood in lower density but this is very limited and tends not to hang around long at all.
Prices from
Adult Full Size
series custom bespoke
3 Stripe £330.00 £350.00 £375.00
2 Stripe £240.00 £260.00 £285.00
1 Stripe £150.00 £175.00 £200.00
Junior (Size 1 - Harrow)
3 Stripe £150.00 £175.00 £200.00
2 Stripe £100.00 £125.00 £150.00
1 Stripe £75.00 £100.00 £125.00
and crown which because it is not advertised because we don't always have any is £500.
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I presume any willow to get 2:12ish on the Trott profile will automatically be crown willow then?
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I presume any willow to get 2:12ish on the Trott profile will automatically be crown willow then?
I can see if we have any lower grade in around 365 pal for you can't promise
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I can see if we have any lower grade in around 365 pal for you can't promise
Thanks bud, that'd be great if you could but I won't hold my breath :)
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Question Dave.... Why are the clefts cut to different sizes?
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Hmmm that 370 crown,,,
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Question Dave.... Why are the clefts cut to different sizes?
Some are oversized clefts and some are standard clefts mate.
You can get a bigger edge and bigger spine on a oversized cleft pal
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Thanks bud, that'd be great if you could but I won't hold my breath :)
@procricket B3 sorted me out with a low grade 363 so you can get them, just have your card at the ready.
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This is my low grade, low density cleft. Thing is huge for 2.6.8 - in the 'Tonto' shape
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/02/6e3f660b6ef591a18a53fbcadee6dcee.jpg)
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Would love to see a few of these once they are finished up. Some special bats on here
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Stunning clefts indeed.
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oversized edge or 75mm spine?
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oversized edge or 75mm spine?
We can get both or one or the other.
We currently have big edge and big spine which will make hot big edges of spines hope that helps
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Would love to get a Mullanator (one made from oversized cleft) in butterfly willow finished at 2lb 11oz. If that comes up let me know and my card is ready :)
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I believe there are oversized clefts and super-sized clefts. If your chosen profile uses a 400 cleft it will come out at the standard weight for that profile, say 2lb 10.
If you use a 380 cleft your bat will turn out 2lb 8oz. If you want to use the extra volume a 380 cleft gives then that is super-sizing and that costs extra.
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I believe there are oversized clefts and super-sized clefts. If your chosen profile uses a 400 cleft it will come out at the standard weight for that profile, say 2lb 10.
If you use a 380 cleft your bat will turn out 2lb 8oz. If you want to use the extra volume a 380 cleft gives then that is super-sizing and that costs extra.
Because it would be a bespoke shape mate that's only cost incurrence not williow.
We can beef up shapes but the difference is physically what you can get out of a normal cleft and a oversized.
Stripe costs the same be it 3 stripe normal cleft or oversized just factor bespoke or custom for a already cad designed profile making them cost a touch extra as the price difference between custom and bespoke
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What are the benefits of a 407 oversized cleft then? Unless it is concaved it within an inch of its life wouldn't its weight be on the very heavy side? I would have thought oversized clefts would be more benefit being lower density to get bigger edges and spine for a given weight.
I have no idea just trying to get my head around the oversized cleft thing
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It just allows you to have a bigger bat potentially really.
Look at the mull for instance it has 41mm edges and 72mm spine you can't make it out of a normal sized cleft.
So oversized would allow the potential to make it.
Weight would be a factor the lightest you can get a mull would be around a 342 oversized which would be around 2-9 if I'm not mistaken.
407 would make a heavy mull but some people want massive big heavy bats.
Oversized is there to allow people to get big bats and you can reduce the size slightly and still use oversized and get in around 2-8.
There different variants of oversized as well some with massive edge capabilities and some with spine and some just big all over hope that makes sense. We try to cater for everybody
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Because it would be a bespoke shape mate that's only cost incurrence not williow.
We can beef up shapes but the difference is physically what you can get out of a normal cleft and a oversized.
Stripe costs the same be it 3 stripe normal cleft or oversized just factor bespoke or custom for a already cad designed profile making them cost a touch extra as the price difference between custom and bespoke
OK, to get the extra volume from a 380 cleft it is then super-sizing. No matter the grade of willow it then becomes a bespoke which costs extra. My understanding of CAD/CNC is in this instance the prep and tooling is the same apart from using the 'stretch' function to give it the extra 2mm thickness.
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So what sort of densities would you class as being Crown grade willow?
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OK, to get the extra volume from a 380 cleft it is then super-sizing. No matter the grade of willow it then becomes a bespoke which costs extra. My understanding of CAD/CNC is in this instance the prep and tooling is the same apart from using the 'stretch' function to give it the extra 2mm thickness.
Infact cancel that steaky has just told me there no extra cost to supersize a all ready made shape but it will be 2oz heavier for a extra 2mm all over sorry about confusion Roger