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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: simonmay5 on July 04, 2015, 10:33:23 AM
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Shame that ryan Harris has had to retire due to a knee injury always enjoyed watching him play cricket
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Desperately bad luck for Rhino. Truly great fast bowler but a brittle body. His record was extraordinary.
Surprised that Pat Cummins has been recalled as he's hardly played any 4 day cricket since his Test debut.
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Gutted that he's retired.
A career full of injury, such a shame!
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Massive blow for Aus. I thought he was the one guy who could take Anderson/Broad on in typical English conditions. Bet Cook is delighted (from an ashes win point of view - it's sad when anybody retires through injury). As good as Johnson/Starc/Hazelwood are they aren't typical English seamers or have the experience in test cricket in England.
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Such an awesome bowler and humble bloke too. Great shame it has ended this way, fantastic record and injuries have robbed him of bigger and better things.
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It's a sad end to a career.
As an England fan however, I hope this is the start of a terrible tour of the UK for the Aussies!
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Sad end to a career, definitely in my top 5 favourite pace bowlers I've watched - so consistent and relentless when his body held up. Huge blow to the Australian side, losing a world class bowler. I feel the tests will be a lot closer as a result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xQ1IqjthSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xQ1IqjthSU)
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thats a shame even as an england fan i was lloking forward to him bowling in the ashes
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Maybe that's the break England needed don't rate Johnson in The UK
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Always on the cards with his history. Just a shame he couldn't have bowed out at the end of this series.
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Very good bowler, great shame.
On the flip side I have been watching Cummins and Pattinson at the High performance centre all week and they have been blowing rapid. They both look hungry to play.
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Very good bowler, great shame.
On the flip side I have been watching Cummins and Pattinson at the High performance centre all week and they have been blowing rapid. They both look hungry to play.
Didn't realise they were that way inclined :o
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Didn't realise they were that way inclined :o
Pretty quick bowlers too...
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Maybe that's the break England needed don't rate Johnson in The UK
Yaaawn.
2009 Ashes:
Ben Hilfenhaus - 23 wickets
Peter Siddle - 22 wickets
Mitchell Johnson - 20 wickets
Stuart Broad - 16 wickets
James "Greatest Bowler of All Time" Anderson - 12 wickets
Remind me again how shyte Johnson was that series?
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Yaaawn.
2009 Ashes:
Ben Hilfenhaus - 23 wickets
Peter Siddle - 22 wickets
Mitchell Johnson - 20 wickets
Stuart Broad - 16 wickets
James "Greatest Bowler of All Time" Anderson - 12 wickets
Remind me again how shyte Johnson was that series?
Remind me again who won that series ?
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Yaaawn.
2009 Ashes:
Ben Hilfenhaus - 23 wickets
Peter Siddle - 22 wickets
Mitchell Johnson - 20 wickets
Stuart Broad - 16 wickets
James "Greatest Bowler of All Time" Anderson - 12 wickets
Remind me again how shyte Johnson was that series?
Get the quote right Vic : Is
James Anderson the best opening bowler out fielder ever.
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Remind me again who won that series ?
Out of five tests, England literally won two sessions the whole series. They just led to test victories both times.
7 Australian Centurions - Clarke made 2
2 England Centurions
6 of the top 7 runs scorers Aussies
The top 3 bowlers in the series all Aussies (including Johnson)
Without the usual brand of (No Swearing Please) umpiring decisions that went England's way, plus a whole day washed out in Cardiff, England would have lost that series COMFORTABLY.
Anderson hammered all around the park the whole series for the (No Swearing Please) that he is - yet Johnson is remember as being shyte that series? Pommy logic 101.
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Anderson hammered all around the park the whole series for the (No Swearing Please) that he is - yet Johnson is remember as being shyte that series? Pommy logic 101.
It's STATS TIME
Mitchell Johnson was the only "bowler" to go at over 4 an over for the series.
The others were Collingwood, Watson and Bopara who I would class as all-rounders. None particularly threatening with the ball.
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Out of five tests, England literally won two sessions the whole series. They just led to test victories both times.
7 Australian Centurions - Clarke made 2
2 England Centurions
6 of the top 7 runs scorers Aussies
The top 3 bowlers in the series all Aussies (including Johnson)
Without the usual brand of (No Swearing Please) umpiring decisions that went England's way, plus a whole day washed out in Cardiff, England would have lost that series COMFORTABLY.
Anderson hammered all around the park the whole series for the (No Swearing Please) that he is - yet Johnson is remember as being shyte that series? Pommy logic 101.
Who won the series Vic ?
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He will be missed by the Aussies. He was phenomenal during the India vs Australia series prior to world cup.
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I would back this up with stats if I was more clever and energetic but I'm not so I'll have to claim they'll back me up without really knowing.
But on the Anderson/Johnson thing, 12 wickets to 20 looks pretty decisive without knowing WHO those wickets were, I saw something about the percentage of anderson's wickets which are top 4 batsmen.
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Maybe that's the break England needed don't rate Johnson in The UK
Any thoughts anyone ?
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Johnson lost the lords test in 2009 as he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, I for one was delighted to see him back to sterling form in this test with cracking figures of 0-111. Hard to imagine Anderson bowling that rubbish. Wait 1-36 off 16, he must be worse than Mitch!
Even better, now starc is injured, he'll be bowled into the ground on featherbeds for the next 6 weeks.
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Any thoughts anyone ?
I agree, but the only reason I agree is because england doctor and produce pitches that are slow and don't bouce. Im well aware of home advantage but I still think it's not right, and more importantly, what's cricket without abit of danger
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I agree, but the only reason I agree is because england doctor and produce pitches that are slow and don't bouce. Im well aware of home advantage but I still think it's not right, and more importantly, what's cricket without abit of danger
Remember that time you faced Harris? :)
Any thoughts anyone ?
I agree that Harris retiring is something that is good for England in this Ashes series, but poorer for cricket all round. I wouldn't dismiss Johnson so quickly though, everyone has a rough match.
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Desperately bad luck for Rhino. Truly great fast bowler but a brittle body. His record was extraordinary.
Surprised that Pat Cummins has been recalled as he's hardly played any 4 day cricket since his Test debut.
I take that as he won't be playing much cricket.
I know he's done a tour of South Africa with the squad before, but Ashes exposure and experience without the high expectation of performing is great experience for a guy that will probably end up a long term stable of the team.
My though was of James Pattinson, but he is in a similar boat from memory.
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Johnson lost the lords test in 2009 as he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo, I for one was delighted to see him back to sterling form in this test with cracking figures of 0-111. Hard to imagine Anderson bowling that rubbish. Wait 1-36 off 16, he must be worse than Mitch!
Even better, now starc is injured, he'll be bowled into the ground on featherbeds for the next 6 weeks.
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Anderson averages circa 40 plus in Ashes cricket for a reason.
The Aussie batsmen of old like Hayden used to practice their golf shots on Anderson. It was hilarious to see that the cricketing giant George Bailey repeat the dose in Oz last Ashes series.
Johnson's worst series - 20 wickets to Jimmy "The Greatest of All Time" Andersons 12. Says it all really.
I seem to recall SA knocking up 2 for 600 plus to annihilate Anderson to oblivion not that long as well...IN England.
The Greatest of All Time.
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I agree, but the only reason I agree is because england doctor and produce pitches that are slow and don't bouce. Im well aware of home advantage but I still think it's not right, and more importantly, what's cricket without abit of danger
I wouldn't jump the gun just yet.
Sophia Gardens was dead in 2009 as well. So it is probably how it plays?
County watchers would be able to fill us in if this is a usual Swalec pitch?
If it is, I am staggered that Glamorgan would produce any fast bowlers at all, much less Simon Jones whom I consider the best English fast bowler since John Snow.
So guys, is this a normal Swalec pitch?
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Pretty much a standard Swalec pitch. Michael Hogan likes it, Graham Wagg makes do, but it's basically a bore them out wicket.
Other than the two mentioned, Glammy's side is essential no more than 80mph trundlers (more like 75mph) and the odd gnarly old spinner.
I'd guess the Test match in Wales has nothing to do with David Morgan and Hugh Morris having been in influential positions in the ECB. Nothing at all.
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Yep Sophia Gardens is as slow as you get on the county circuit. No life or anything much to it. Coming up:-
Lords - was the quickest of the bunch a couple of years ago but not so sure it's got much pace in it this season
Edgbaston - never been quick
Trent Bridge - swings but not quick
Oval - tennis ball bounce and has lost most of it's pace
Old Trafford would of been quick but it's not holding a test. English decks are generally flat and slow for test matches. Places like Old Trafford and the Oval a few years ago are exceptions rather than the rule.
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Anderson averages circa 40 plus in Ashes cricket for a reason.
The Aussie batsmen of old like Hayden used to practice their golf shots on Anderson. It was hilarious to see that the cricketing giant George Bailey repeat the dose in Oz last Ashes series.
Johnson's worst series - 20 wickets to Jimmy "The Greatest of All Time" Andersons 12. Says it all really.
I seem to recall SA knocking up 2 for 600 plus to annihilate Anderson to oblivion not that long as well...IN England.
The Greatest of All Time.
Past performance isn't a guide to future performance and resorting to selective statistics just makes you look a bit bitter. Fact is at the moment, Mitch has disappeared all round Wales and Anderson has bowled beautifully.
Still plenty of time for things to change though and you to be proved right.
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I think the Harris retirement is further compounded with the fact that Watson is no longer a threat and Siddle is not playing.
I know he has never been one of the big boys but it was never a bad thing having his services when required.
The absence of Siddle is also another issue. The Aussies only have Johnson with any real Ashes experience. As I have posted previously, the Ashes is more than just being a good cricketer. Starc has bowled well but wasn't backed up by Hazlewood or Johnson.
The difference down under last time was that Johnson, Siddle, Harris and co never let the England batsmen settle and this was similar towards the end of the Ashes in England where England were lucky to win the series at home.
I think the pitch is doing exactly what the ECB want it to do. I imagine they are chucking buckets of water over Lords, Oval e.t.c. as we speak, in the hope that England can keep battting themselves to a draw and hope that the Aussies balls it up just once.