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Title: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 30, 2015, 03:48:30 PM
Hunts Butterfly bat with a lovely chunky profile and fantastic pickup. Stunning grains with a stain right in the playing area.

2'9 and a half, including toe guard.

£135 posted in the UK (this is the price not an invitation to barter, sorry to be rude but it saves offence later)

I've seen plenty of people pay much more for a 'grade 1 butterfly' so this represents a bargain.

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Jake
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: peristocle on July 30, 2015, 03:50:32 PM


Lovely profile there!
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: joymarvin on July 30, 2015, 05:18:33 PM
Amazing profile..
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Post by: northernboy1987 on July 31, 2015, 10:07:18 AM
Very nice profile indeed!!
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Chriss5471 on August 10, 2015, 05:54:52 PM
This or anything similar still available?  If so what is the edge size and spine height?
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 10, 2015, 06:20:08 PM
Nice straight grains proper profile shame it's a butterfly.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: edge on August 10, 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Nice straight grains proper profile shame it's a butterfly.
You ever used a butterfly?
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: 03jaworf on August 10, 2015, 09:01:51 PM
You ever used a butterfly?

I've never had one, is there any difference in performance/durability etc? Not ruled out getting one just not thought about it tbh.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: icewolf on August 10, 2015, 09:09:29 PM
Nice one


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Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 10, 2015, 09:19:33 PM
You ever used a butterfly?

Used to own one sold it on eBay dispite plenty of knocking in found it to be hard in the butterfly area which affected the ping also butterfly willow tends to be heavier.
Graiding wise It's the poorest quality willow.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: edge on August 10, 2015, 11:35:39 PM
Used to own one sold it on eBay dispite plenty of knocking in found it to be hard in the butterfly area which affected the ping also butterfly willow tends to be heavier.
Graiding wise It's the poorest quality willow.
Could it be that it was just a crap bat and that had nothing to do with a butterfly? I've owned or used 4, 3 by top batmakers (B3/Aldred) and one eBay blank. The eBay one was a plank, yes, but I don't think that had a lot to do with it being a butterfly! The b3/Aldred bats are all superb, with the Aldred the stain isn't in the playing area but on one b3 it was and it absolutely flew off the stain. All around 2lb10 and they're all very large bats.

Yes some butterfly willow bats are poor, some are excellent. Same as all other bats really! Don't go slating them all. I'm sure this one will be a good stick as Hunts know what they're doing!
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: InternalTraining on August 11, 2015, 03:58:38 AM
Could it be that it was just a crap bat and that had nothing to do with a butterfly? I've owned or used 4, 3 by top batmakers (B3/Aldred) and one eBay blank. The eBay one was a plank, yes, but I don't think that had a lot to do with it being a butterfly! The b3/Aldred bats are all superb, with the Aldred the stain isn't in the playing area but on one b3 it was and it absolutely flew off the stain. All around 2lb10 and they're all very large bats.

Yes some butterfly willow bats are poor, some are excellent. Same as all other bats really! Don't go slating them all. I'm sure this one will be a good stick as Hunts know what they're doing!

HOw much knocking/preparation did you do of your butterfly? My butterfly turned out to be an OK bat, not great. I use it in nets only where balls are cheap and deck is hard.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: tim2000s on August 11, 2015, 07:56:55 AM
HOw much knocking/preparation did you do of your butterfly? My butterfly turned out to be an OK bat, not great. I use it in nets only where balls are cheap and deck is hard.
I think it really depends on the batmaker. Both my B3 and Hunts butterflyies are very nice and I've scored runs with them very efficiently. Better batsmen have scored runs even more efficiently. I've not really knocked either of them in, aside from protecting the edges and toe with a bit of bath rolling and some proper toe belting.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 11, 2015, 08:33:37 AM
Could it be that it was just a crap bat and that had nothing to do with a butterfly? I've owned or used 4, 3 by top batmakers (B3/Aldred) and one eBay blank. The eBay one was a plank, yes, but I don't think that had a lot to do with it being a butterfly! The b3/Aldred bats are all superb, with the Aldred the stain isn't in the playing area but on one b3 it was and it absolutely flew off the stain. All around 2lb10 and they're all very large bats.

Yes some butterfly willow bats are poor, some are excellent. Same as all other bats really! Don't go slating them all. I'm sure this one will be a good stick as Hunts know what they're doing!

The butterfly bat was a custom made made for me by well known  top batmaker it was not as you put c---p just hard dispite many hours knocking in  as for slating them all the post was more about identifying that Butterfly willow is the lowest grade willow denser and heavier for the guy who  asked the question.                                                                                               Also Yet to see one that pings the same a bat made from a low density cleft.


You don't see many Butterfly bats in retail outlets as they are not purchased by the wider cricket public.
As for grade one Butterfly willow IMO that's just marketing.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: horseman on August 11, 2015, 09:24:11 AM
I agree with the grade 1 butterfly remark, a butterfly should really just be a butterfly.
I haven't had a bad one yet. The 2 aldreds I use now are great, one multigrainer that is lovely and the other would need a set of beer goggles to be even looked at but goes like the clappers. Ive had 5 b3s in various shapes and weights and they all seem to hit hard and true out of the stain.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Vitas Cricket on August 11, 2015, 01:47:43 PM
This or anything similar still available?  If so what is the edge size and spine height?

Yes this is still available. 36mm edge, 58mm spine. Approx.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Jaffa on August 11, 2015, 02:50:17 PM
I agree with the grade 1 butterfly remark, a butterfly should really just be a butterfly.
I haven't had a bad one yet. The 2 aldreds I use now are great, one multigrainer that is lovely and the other would need a set of beer goggles to be even looked at but goes like the clappers. Ive had 5 b3s in various shapes and weights and they all seem to hit hard and true out of the stain.

Can't agree on the one grade idea. With that you're saying all bats are graded on looks alone. I've had four now and the all go very well but there are differences between them.

Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: trypewriter on August 11, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
The butterfly bat that I have doesn't seem small for the weight, it's quite a generous size.
Yes on looks they aren't everyone's cup of tea. - I like the look of some of them - some more than others - like any bat...
I showed the bat to an old guy at work who got quite misty eyed about it and told me he hadn't seen one in use in years.
'We all wanted butterfly bats in my day but they were reserved for the pros,' he reckoned.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 11, 2015, 04:09:41 PM
He's right I was thinking the same years ago there were plenty around club cricket but they died out also think away from our forum they are still not popular.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: edge on August 11, 2015, 08:55:12 PM
I don't think 'grade 1 butterfly' is the best way of putting it, but why would you not grade some butterfly willow as better than others? Here's a butterfly I own and one that is very similar to a teammate's, I think it's entirely fair to say that one is a nicer piece of willow than the other! Might as well say that all bats with heartwood should be graded the same.
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Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: FattusCattus on August 11, 2015, 09:41:59 PM
That is a lovely shape Jake, I'd be after that like a Hobo after meths if I hadn't already sorted out another Hunts (ahem!)
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 13, 2015, 09:16:05 AM
Doesn't JS Wright's Grade 1 classification now include the 'top 2% of butterfly stained willow'? Or did it always?
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 13, 2015, 09:32:55 AM
Doesn't JS Wright's Grade 1 classification now include the 'top 2% of butterfly stained willow'? Or did it always?
No
Wrights grade on visual appearance this includes Butterfly stain number of blemishes and knots and straightness of grain.
The greater the staining the lower the grade.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 13, 2015, 12:36:14 PM
Sorry, Grade 2. I did read it the other day, and think "was that always the case?"

"A Grade 2 blade is also very good quality and normally a larger amount of red wood can be seen on the edge of a blade, this has no effect on the playing ability of the bat it is purely cosmetic. Again there will be at least 6 straight grains on the face of the blade with maybe some blemishes, pin knots or “speck” visible, we also put the top 2% of the excellent quality butterfly blades that we get into Grade 2."
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Kulli on August 13, 2015, 12:44:18 PM
That's definitely new.
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on August 13, 2015, 12:53:18 PM
That's definitely new.

Thank-you. I was only slightly wrong!
Title: Re: Lovely Butterfly at 2'9
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 13, 2015, 01:14:29 PM
Yes Thankyou there must be a shortage of quality willow.