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Title: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: smilley792 on October 29, 2015, 07:04:52 AM
Day 1 91 overs bowled.

Ca xi 376 for 0


Finch 214* from 270 balls
Carters 156* 276 balls.


No bolt, but southey Henry etc are all present with the ball.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: csnew on October 29, 2015, 07:22:34 AM
Must be that pink ball!
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 29, 2015, 07:34:03 AM
No bolt, but southey Henry etc are all present with the ball.

Southee only bowled 3 overs. I think he went off with an illness.

The wicket was flattish, a bit slow from what I watched. However it really shouldn't matter how flat it was, these were two batsman not good enough to play in the FC competition this week, these were third tier players, they bowled very poorly.

Neesham, Craig, Henry all look poor. Bracewell looked alright.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: lazza32 on October 29, 2015, 07:59:22 AM
Southee only bowled 3 overs. I think he went off with an illness.

The wicket was flattish, a bit slow from what I watched. However it really shouldn't matter how flat it was, these were two batsman not good enough to play in the FC competition this week, these were third tier players, they bowled very poorly.

Wagner, Milne, Craig, Henry all look poor. Bracewell looked alright.

what channel was it on?
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 29, 2015, 08:08:07 AM
what channel was it on?

cricket.com.au has a live stream, no commentary though but you will need to sign up for an account (I used my Google+ account to log in). They also stream the shield matches (SA v NSW has full commentary).
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: grunter on October 29, 2015, 09:30:49 AM

Wagner, Milne, Craig, Henry all look poor. Bracewell looked alright.

Wagner is playing FC cricket in NZ and Milne is injured. Neither are on tour?

From all accounts, the pitch was expected to be a road - nice to work our bowlers into the ground on a lifeless pitch before throwing us into a traditionally green tinged humid Gabba.

Still, Henry really needs to up his game, he's a far better bowler than he has been playing of late...
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 29, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
From all accounts, the pitch was expected to be a road - nice to work our bowlers into the ground on a lifeless pitch before throwing us into a traditionally green tinged humid Gabba.

Apologies, I don't know the faces yet, meant Neesham, Craig & Henry. Misread the score card. Pitch was meh, not quite the road they played on in Canberra, Bankstown is a little sticky and a bit slow. Still very different from teh Gabba.

Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: edge on October 29, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
Finch is absolutely not the future.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 29, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
Finch is absolutely not the future.

Needs to bank some FC runs to be considered.

Currently is the #3 opener for Victoria behind Quiney, Dean as well possibly Rogers (when he returns). However Quiney is well over the hill, and a spud so I would think Finch might be playing shield soon.

Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: potzy248 on October 29, 2015, 08:04:14 PM
I think saw McCullum and Guptil bowling together for a while yesterday. Hopefully they won't be needed next week.... :o
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: Aussie In England on October 29, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
Pitch might be a road but it's always great to see a Victorian getting a biggie!!! Good to see Aaron Finch has learnt to bat a full day rather his usual crash, bang and wallop method. Ryan Carters is gonna be close to national sectional with a good season with NSW. As for Finch, he needs a 1000+ summer with Victoria to get near a Test cap.

Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: Aussie In England on October 29, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
Southee only bowled 3 overs. I think he went off with an illness.

The wicket was flattish, a bit slow from what I watched. However it really shouldn't matter how flat it was, these were two batsman not good enough to play in the FC competition this week, these were third tier players, they bowled very poorly.

Neesham, Craig, Henry all look poor. Bracewell looked alright.
Finch might not be good enough, but Carters pretty much played every game last year for NSW, so he can't be that bad...
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 29, 2015, 09:55:57 PM
Pitch might be a road but it's always great to see a Victorian getting a biggie!!! Good to see Aaron Finch has learnt to bat a full day rather his usual crash, bang and wallop method. Ryan Carters is gonna be close to national sectional with a good season with NSW. As for Finch, he needs a 1000+ summer with Victoria to get near a Test cap.

Finch is worse than Ali.. God help test cricket if he is ever even in consideration
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 30, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
Finch might not be good enough, but Carters pretty much played every game last year for NSW, so he can't be that bad...

Maybe when Warner and Smith go off for national duty, but at current he isn't good enough to be selected for NSW.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: sctyd on October 30, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
Maybe when Warner and Smith go off for national duty, but at current he isn't good enough to be selected for NSW.

Gee, what an indictment on his ability. He's next in line after the 2nd and 9th best batsmen in international test cricket.

Solid argument mate  ???
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 30, 2015, 12:55:01 AM
Solid argument mate  ???

It still makes him a 3rd tier player, like I originally said. Not good enough to be a first picked player in a FC team...

0/500 is more an indictment on the bowling, seriously Ross Taylor is in to the attack, surely the Kiwis are going to take a practice match more seriously than this?

Edit: Tom Latham, the strike bowler, finally makes the breakthrough
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: Nmcgee on October 30, 2015, 03:16:44 AM
It's all over! Looks like the NZ team have double-declared and players have left the field.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: potzy248 on October 30, 2015, 04:50:19 AM
Called off due to pitch conditions. I saw a photo and it was a mess. 500/1 though.

CA trying to organise another game before the 1st test.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 30, 2015, 05:22:13 AM
It's all over! Looks like the NZ team have double-declared and players have left the field.

So the Kiwis lost to the Australia B team by an innings and 503 runs?  ;)

The pitch did degrade very quickly, but I'm Finch and Carters handled it well enough.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: smilley792 on October 30, 2015, 06:11:58 AM
Just read what mcullum said, basically they saw a few balls rear of a length with the new ball on the first nights evening, so chose to not bowl any pace in the morning.
As the pitch went even more South during the morning session, they believed it was both to dangerous and not worth batting on as they wouldn't learn anything


The pitch looked shocking, but don't you normally lose wickets in huge bathes on these dangerous pitches?
Not break records with huge stands?
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 30, 2015, 06:42:10 AM
The pitch looked shocking, but don't you normally lose wickets in huge bathes on these dangerous pitches?
Not break records with huge stands?

I think once the NZers realised what the pitch was doing as it deteriorated late on day 1, they switched to slow bowlers.

Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: smilley792 on October 30, 2015, 07:07:52 AM
I think once the NZers realised what the pitch was doing as it deteriorated late on day 1, they switched to slow bowlers.

I put that in the bit you deleted from the quote.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: Number4 on October 30, 2015, 07:14:51 AM
Finch is worse than Ali.. God help test cricket if he is ever even in consideration

I think similar was said about Smith & Warner as well
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: jezza39 on October 30, 2015, 07:22:35 AM
I put that in the bit you deleted from the quote.

What I mean is if they were already bowling part-timers and waiting for the 2nd new ball, then the pitch deteriorated, that's probably why they took no wickets.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 30, 2015, 08:32:54 AM
NZ double declare to end the match, kind of says it all really.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: ScottParko on October 30, 2015, 10:48:26 AM
(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/ScottParko/Mobile%20Uploads/_86402708_pitch_sydney_getty_zpsamxmqnuw.jpg)

I've seen better like...
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on October 30, 2015, 11:17:49 AM
([url]http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/ScottParko/Mobile%20Uploads/_86402708_pitch_sydney_getty_zpsamxmqnuw.jpg[/url])

I've seen better like...


They don't know they're born these professionals!
I've played on worse (and there was a couple of horses stopped played by reproducing in the middle of the pitch that day...) 
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on October 30, 2015, 11:24:43 AM
They don't know they're born these professionals!
I've played on worse (and there was a couple of horses stopped played by reproducing in the middle of the pitch that day...)

If you have played on worse than that then I would hate to play at that club on a regular basis.
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on October 30, 2015, 11:42:31 AM
If you have played on worse than that then I would hate to play at that club on a regular basis.

It was a Sunday friendly out in the forest. We haven't been back since...  :-[
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: felix on October 30, 2015, 12:27:10 PM
If you have played on worse than that then I would hate to play at that club on a regular basis.

Think I've played on one or two worse away tracks in surrey champs 3rd xi (I'm sure @FattusCattus would agree), though I couldn't possibly name and shame. TBH it doesn't look too bad so long as you're not a left hander  :)
Title: Re: New Zealand vs ca xi - flat track or finch the future?
Post by: ScottParko on October 30, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
It's probably more dangerous for a bowler I reckon, hence McCullum not bowling his pacers in the end.