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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: brokenbat on February 17, 2016, 06:24:39 AM
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Warner Big Edge vs Pepsi..which one to get and why?
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After having seen and felt @Wickets-then-runs Pepsi, I'd lean that way. It was a BEAST and the pick up was unreal for how big and heavy it is. Performance was unreal too.
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Surly you should get the shape that most suits your gam3 rather than the biggest bat you can lift?
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Surly you should get the shape that most suits your gam3 rather than the biggest bat you can lift?
Buzz you need to sort the swear filter, your whole post needs to be in it
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Surly you should get the shape that most suits your gam3 rather than the biggest bat you can lift?
Ridiculous comment... Clearly knows nothing about cricket...
The most technically correct way of choosing at bat is to ask the bat maker what is the biggest, heaviest bat they can make and then ask for an oz heavier and 5mm bigger edges
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Ridiculous comment... Clearly knows nothing about cricket...
The most technically correct way of choosing at bat is to ask the bat maker what is the biggest, heaviest bat they can make and then ask for an oz heavier and 5mm bigger edges
And make it feel no heavier than 2lb8oz
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Has many or any big edge Warners come out of b3 yet? And if so what's the standard weight of them for the 400 density cleft?
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Has many or any big edge Warners come out of b3 yet? And if so what's the standard weight of them for the 400 density cleft?
My thinking exactly, probably gonna need me one of these :D
*EDIT* Actually didn't someone post about one in one of the B3 threads the other day? Think it only had 47mm edges though so no bigger than the Pepsi really, think we need to get yours in and get it mapped @smilley792
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My thinking exactly, probably gonna need me one of these :D
*EDIT* Actually didn't someone post about one in one of the B3 threads the other day? Think it only had 47mm edges though so no bigger than the Pepsi really, think we need to get yours in and get it mapped @smilley792
Twas me, I hadn't actually managed to find my tape measure at that point so the "measurements" were massively approximated, I've had a couple of requests since to confirm the same so will do this later.
Have to say it doesn't look that much bigger than a Pepsi and 2lb14.7 fully dressed.
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My Pepsi has 50mm edges, weighs in at 2.12 from a 351 density Crown cleft. It picks up magnificently and ive hit some massive bombs with it! Love it and as B3 can get the same profile time and time again, im staying with them!
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My Pepsi has 50mm edges, weighs in at 2.12 from a 351 density Crown cleft. It picks up magnificently and ive hit some massive bombs with it! Love it and as B3 can get the same profile time and time again, im staying with them!
Have you measured the edges? I was under the impression the Pepsi edges were 46/7mm? I haven't measured mine to be fair though so I could be wrong!
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@brokenbat , do you like a bow in you bats? The GN Warner has a massive bow. From my experience with B3, they don't bow bats.
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Hate to be 'that guy' but don't get either - get a Mullanator. You won't be disappointed.
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@brokenbat , do you like a bow in you bats? The GN Warner has a massive bow. From my experience with B3, they don't bow bats.
That's not strictly true, they just won't put as bigger bow as some other makers are prepared to do. My Pepsi is bowed albeit gently.
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Of course it not strictly true we do a gentle bow in the bats not the big bows some do.
The Warner which we have had one in a used one had a bigger bow then we would do.
But if your looking for a big Asian bow we do not do them.
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Of course it not strictly true we do a gentle bow in the bats not the big bows some do.
The Warner which we have had one in a used one had a bigger bow then we would do.
But if your looking for a big Asian bow we do not do them.
Won't or can't?
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Have you measured the edges? I was under the impression the Pepsi edges were 46/7mm? I haven't measured mine to be fair though so I could be wrong!
Yep, just measured them AGAIN and they are still 50mm... maybe its just the low density Crown cleft that allows these edges...?
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We can bow a bat it just we choose not too.
Bows are interesting big ones it a kind of uneven press with different pressure being applied to different areas. Take the Asian bats with massive bows they tend to be very soft around the shoulders and stickers and have softer toes.
Two types of bows cut in and pressed in.
Maybe streaky will explain why b3 do what they do.
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Yep, just measured them AGAIN and they are still 50mm... maybe its just the low density Crown cleft that allows these edges...?
Wasn't meaning to sound like I was doubting you there mate, it's just that every time a Pepsi thread comes up there seems to be different specs each time :D
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We can bow a bat it just we choose not too.
Bows are interesting big ones it a kind of uneven press with different pressure being applied to different areas. Take the Asian bats with massive bows they tend to be very soft around the shoulders and stickers and have softer toes.
Two types of bows cut in and pressed in.
Maybe streaky will explain why b3 do what they do.
But if a customer specifically requests a large bow surely that's part of the bespoke offer?
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We can bow a bat it just we choose not too.
Bows are interesting big ones it a kind of uneven press with different pressure being applied to different areas. Take the Asian bats with massive bows they tend to be very soft around the shoulders and stickers and have softer toes.
Two types of bows cut in and pressed in.
Maybe streaky will explain why b3 do what they do.
Keep choosing not to!
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But if a customer specifically requests a large bow surely that's part of the bespoke offer?
Its not quite as simple as that.
Would I produce a big bow because the customer wanted one, if I knew that it either would not play as well or last as long - the answer would be, no I wouldnt as I believe in providing the best quality bat in terms of ping and endurence, and we have developed our pressing over the last 4 years to achieve this.
As Dave has said a pressed bow is far superior to a cut bow and a large bow that is pressed in will have a very soft toe and shoulders.
I hope this answers your question.
Streaky
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@The Doctor does cutting a bow in affect the stiffness of the blade?
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This will be more of a novelty buy for me. I normally don't use bats that heavy. Have had a couple of B3s and very comfortable and familiar with their process.
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Yep, just measured them AGAIN and they are still 50mm... maybe its just the low density Crown cleft that allows these edges...?
@Wickets-then-runs ... how did you find the concaving? a bit on the aggressive side? thats my ONLY real concern with the Pepsi. being a CBF member, I am brainwashed into despising concaving.
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Not the greatest pic but hopefully shows the concaving isn't ridiculous.
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wait...you have one too??
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wait...you have one too??
Correct!
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wait...you have one too??
Any questions you have just give me a shout, happy to help!
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Well it appears the Pepsi has bigger edges than my Warner. Just measured it, 47mm edge, 65mm spine.
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Well it appears the Pepsi has bigger edges than my Warner. Just measured it, 47mm edge, 65mm spine.
are you accounting for the rounded edges? edge size does go down once they are rounded and compressed during the knocking in process.
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are you accounting for the rounded edges? edge size does go down once they are rounded and compressed during the knocking in process.
No...not taken it upto the bathroom and rounded the edges off on the bath yet.
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I'll see if I can find a tape and measure my Pepsi.
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The concaving on mine is about the same as Northern Boys and with such big edges, it pings the whole way accross the face. Very forgiving!
Wasn't meaning to sound like I was doubting you there mate, it's just that every time a Pepsi thread comes up there seems to be different specs each time :D
I know, mate! I was just mucking around. :)
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The concaving on mine is about the same as Northern Boys and with such big edges, it pings the whole way accross the face. Very forgiving! I know, mate! I was just mucking around. :)
Just measured mine and it's definitely 47mm at the highest edge point, has yours been knocked in/edges rolled? Only curious as with B3's CNC machine everything should be the same (although perhaps a difference of a couple of mm is usual?), that being said I measured with a tape not calipers so I could be wrong!
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Just measured mine and it's definitely 47mm at the highest edge point, has yours been knocked in/edges rolled? Only curious as with B3's CNC machine everything should be the same (although perhaps a difference of a couple of mm is usual?), that being said I measured with a tape not calipers so I could be wrong!
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All things being equal it should be, but if you had a weight limit then perhaps to keep it to that weight, more wood had to be taken out as perhaps the cleft wasn't as light.
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All things being equal it should be, but if you had a weight limit then perhaps to keep it to that weight, more wood had to be taken out as perhaps the cleft wasn't as light.
I see what you're saying but I'm not sure that's how they work. The way I understood it the CAD file of the design is interpreted in the same way by the CNC machine so the shape stays the same but it's the density of the cleft which determines the finished weight, if extra wood was taken out to reach the weight the existing CAD would have to be altered and therefore be a bespoke design.
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Is the Pepsi not being sold as a bespoke anyway?
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Is the Pepsi not being sold as a bespoke anyway?
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Yeah but if the design already exists (pro shapes etc.) you get them for the same price as the Series shapes I think, the extra £50 charge is only for brand new bespoke shapes made from scratch.
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Yeah but if the design already exists (pro shapes etc.) you get them for the same price as the Series shapes I think, the extra £50 charge is only for brand new bespoke shapes made from scratch.
Not quite true, both the Pepsi and the Warner are already mapped and available as Custom shapes but a price level up from the Series (DB) shapes and below Bespoke. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
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Not quite true, both the Pepsi and the Warner are already mapped and available as Custom shapes but a price level up from the Series (DB) shapes and below Bespoke. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
You may well be right mate!
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Yeah any bat already mapped and coded will be the same price as a Custom. Once you alter a bat shape it then becomes a Bespoke and will be charged at the Bespoke price.
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Not quite true, both the Pepsi and the Warner are already mapped and available as Custom shapes but a price level up from the Series (DB) shapes and below Bespoke. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...
You are right
The Doctor explains this in his post here http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36744.135 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=36744.135)
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Just measured mine and it's definitely 47mm at the highest edge point, has yours been knocked in/edges rolled? Only curious as with B3's CNC machine everything should be the same (although perhaps a difference of a couple of mm is usual?), that being said I measured with a tape not calipers so I could be wrong!
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Mine is 47mm edges and 73mm spine out of the box
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Yeah but if the design already exists (pro shapes etc.) you get them for the same price as the Series shapes I think, the extra £50 charge is only for brand new bespoke shapes made from scratch.
The Doc mentioned at the start of the offer that shapes currently made and sat in the showroom he would offer at series price. These were snaffled very quickly by forum members or visitors to the showroom so as others have mentioned, custom for existing shapes
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The Doc mentioned at the start of the offer that shapes currently made and sat in the showroom he would offer at series price. These were snaffled very quickly by forum members or visitors to the showroom so as others have mentioned, custom for existing shapes
Mine was a pre made but was custom price. :(
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Mine was a pre made but was custom price. :(
I must be wrong then. Either way. The offer from B3 is top notch and not to be sniffed at!
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Warner Big Edge vs Pepsi..which one to get and why?
What the hell is Pepsi ? The drink ?
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What the hell is Pepsi ? The drink ?
Congratulations on you extreme lack of research. It's only been mentioned about 5billion times on the forum over the last months.
Hell even reading the posts in this thread would have given you some clue!
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Congratulations on you extreme lack of research. It's only been mentioned about 5billion times on the forum over the last months.
Hell even reading the posts in this thread would have given you some clue!
I read through the whole post, I did figure out it's a bat with massive edges comparable to Warner's. But that's all I know. You don't have to berate me for asking a question.
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Congratulations on you extreme lack of research. It's only been mentioned about 5billion times on the forum over the last months.
Hell even reading the posts in this thread would have given you some clue!
Also, I can't search due to high stress on the server.
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Pepsi is the nickname of Tom Kholer Cadmore on of our professional
(http://i66.tinypic.com/5dtpmu.jpg)
Kholer=pepsi
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I've gone with a TKC/Pepsi bat. Excellent shape. Out of interest, how did he get the nickname Pepsi?
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I've gone with a TKC/Pepsi bat. Excellent shape. Out of interest, how did he get the nickname Pepsi?
Pepsi is the nickname of Tom Kholer Cadmore on of our professional
Kholer=pepsi
Kohler sounds like Cola
Cola =Pepsi
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Haha
COLA=KHOLER=PEPSI
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Haha
COLA=KHOLER=PEPSI
Dont get it, u've named a bat after a drink?
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Dont get it, u've named a bat after a drink?
Not sure if you're trolling or just thick... ???
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I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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Well this thread took a turn for the worse.
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its ok full range on display
(http://i66.tinypic.com/5dtpmu.jpg)
PEPSI on the drive
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Not sure if you're trolling or just thick... ???
Likewise
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Kohler sounds like Cola
Cola =Pepsi
I get it !!
:)