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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: icewolf on May 08, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
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Hi guys,
Is anyone using one of those 50mm monsters? I am thinking about buying one. I heard they are made in India and not in england as they claim?
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M&H bats perform really well regardless of where they are made.
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they have a lot of concaving, but great pick up for the weight
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Also, have quite a thin handle
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I have never seen a more ridiculously concaved bat than the one I saw at Lord's.
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Lad in my team used one yesterday! An absolute beast!!!
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Even with concaving the edges are still 50mm so still a lot of wood? At least the opposition would be scared of it...lol
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Even with concaving the edges are still 50mm so still a lot of wood? At least the opposition would be scared of it...lol
Yes, lots of wood in the edge. It will have all been scooped out if the middle though.
Actually, that sounds ideal for me as that's where I tend to hit the ball...
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Are the full width/length in order to make the blade so large?
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Lad used one the other Sunday.
Very very concaved. Edge may be 50 mm, but the lowliest point of concaving must be in the 30mms . Seems abit daft.
Blade also looked strange in terms of size like it was a short blade long handle or similar.
But..... Despite the guy using it being useless, the one he did get hold of went miles!!
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Very popular with our team and they all perform well. many suffer from early cracking, they are all large for their weight, they are all over-priced.
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Similar principle to the Kippax colussus then? But a couple hundred quid more expensive of course
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@icewolf go for an older model if you think that concaving is a problem - try a pre-2014 Amplus. Amazing bats!
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I've got a CK22 & an early M&H 11/Amplus, they both have superb middles, we played on the edge of the track yesterday on one of the biggest grounds in the league. I hit 2 one bounce 4's to the furthest part of the ground with the amplus which would've been into the clubhouse on every other ground. Not saying it's just the bat but it absolutely flies and it isn't a huge bat. Neither is a hellfire that I've got. I'd say that M&H's that I've had are awesome bats but the ones that aren't huge play as well as the ones that are so don't waste money on a massive bat when a decent one will do
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I found a brand new M&H International bat on ebay and won the auction for £206+15... here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millichamp-and-Hall-The-International-Limited-Edition-/222106452646?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=h6P7okFB9sltKEvz91r8xkzf3EU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millichamp-and-Hall-The-International-Limited-Edition-/222106452646?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=h6P7okFB9sltKEvz91r8xkzf3EU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
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Well done, no way that the bat is unused as the description though! Lovely shape, should go well. I had a Harlequin which wasn't a very big bat that played very well, it was on eBay not long ago but for ,ore than I sold it for or I would have bought it back
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Yes I think its a bit used thats why he removed the scuff sheet lol but if it has any kind of damage then I'll get my money back from paypal so lets see.
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I played with a CK11 copy by Laver. Very concaved but it hit the ball an absolute mile, even when not hit in the middle.
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I found a brand new M&H International bat on ebay and won the auction for £206+15... here [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millichamp-and-Hall-The-International-Limited-Edition-/222106452646?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=h6P7okFB9sltKEvz91r8xkzf3EU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millichamp-and-Hall-The-International-Limited-Edition-/222106452646?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=h6P7okFB9sltKEvz91r8xkzf3EU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc[/url])
I saw this one - it is 2-9, so I let it go. Congrats!! These are great bats!
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I saw this one - it is 2-9, so I let it go. Congrats!! These are great bats!
Yeah 2 9 but I've seen these bats in store before and 2 9 has a much lighter pickup so lets see.
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£550.00 for a cricket bat?
No offense intended but seriously, in general public if someone is ready to spend this much on a cricket bat then I assume he is currently not in good batting form.
He wants to make runs and play long innings but can't figure out exactly why his strokes are either not timed or the ball does not meet the middle. So the wallet takes the toll and the player wants to explore this venue in an effort to get back in form.
Obviously it's a free world and everyone is at liberty to whatever he/she wants to buy - so I am not stopping or discouraging the OP from buy this bat; however, I feel that the bat makers have sky rocketed the prices tremendously in recent years.
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£550.00 for a cricket bat?
No offense intended but seriously, in general public if someone is ready to spend this much on a cricket bat then I assume he is currently not in good batting form.
He wants to make runs and play long innings but can't figure out exactly why his strokes are either not timed or the ball does not meet the middle. So the wallet takes the toll and the player wants to explore this venue in an effort to get back in form.
Obviously it's a free world and everyone is at liberty to whatever he/she wants to buy - so I am not stopping or discouraging the OP from buy this bat; however, I feel that the bat makers have sky rocketed the prices tremendously in recent years.
You are right mate I am not a good player so I hide behind expensive gear lol
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MH had a 30% off offer a couple of Fridays ago. It was for the MH16 which i think is pretty well the same bat.
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MH had a 30% off offer a couple of Fridays ago. It was for the MH16 which i think is pretty well the same bat.
Oh no I missed that ... Will wait for another offer, for now I got this International bat.
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Got a MH 16 and it is an absolute gun. Huge but picks up sweet. Yes the con caving is daft but doesn't effect the bats performance
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Nick Compton's bat is not actually this concaved, is it?
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Its rare that bats that pro use are in line with the stickers on them, even if made by the same company (rare) they are usually what the pro prefers rather than the marketed shape.
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Its rare that bats that pro use are in line with the stickers on them, even if made by the same company (rare) they are usually what the pro prefers rather than the marketed shape.
I thought Nick had helped in the design?
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Nick Compton's bat is not actually this concaved, is it?
I think he said on an interview that he likes fuller profile.
As for "his range" I don't think any of his bats in the South Africa series looked like they had 50mm edges.
If you purchase an M&H NC654 you're buying a bat with the same stickers as Nick Compton, but they certainly aren't the same shape!
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Popped into talent cricket today and they had a few of these in - knew they were concaved but wow! Presume the profiles been designed based on the alps.
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Looks concaved to me
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/645AE7CC-BDDA-4E01-8245-18D396D0A6F3_zpsxsqmfyjm.png) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/645AE7CC-BDDA-4E01-8245-18D396D0A6F3_zpsxsqmfyjm.png.html)
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Edges don't look 50mm though
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But then this is very common in the industry. Having been to handpick a fair few times, it's almost unheard of that a pro shape matches the stickered up pro shape.
Although not many companies are still going with the named player bat - GM Players Edition, GN Cook bat are the only ones I can think of really? And even then the Cook looked a different shape to his own ones I've seen on the bench
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Received my MH16 Pro this week at a finished weight of 2.11.... Looking at it from the toe up, it looks like a big "W" it is that concaved. Rarely have i been more disgusted with a bat! For that sort of money you would expect a low density cleft but this is just pathetic! Ive had plenty of M&Hs over the years but this proves they are now a joke!
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Received my MH16 Pro this week at a finished weight of 2.11.... Looking at it from the toe up, it looks like a big "W" it is that concaved. Rarely have i been more disgusted with a bat! For that sort of money you would expect a low density cleft but this is just pathetic! Ive had plenty of M&Hs over the years but this proves they are now a joke!
Pics?
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Ill put a couple up. Ive emailed M&H and they have agreed to take the bat back and replce it with another bat.
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(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t349/mark208/IMG_20160513_184926_zpslcrtnxqh.jpg) (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/mark208/media/IMG_20160513_184926_zpslcrtnxqh.jpg.html)
(http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t349/mark208/IMG_20160513_184815_zps5hhvmigv.jpg) (http://s514.photobucket.com/user/mark208/media/IMG_20160513_184815_zps5hhvmigv.jpg.html)
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Wow, was that inspired by a skate-park half-pipe?
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Ill put a couple up. Ive emailed M&H and they have agreed to take the bat back and replce it with another bat.
Will it be replaced with another stupidly concaved bat, or a sensible shape one?
I'm not sure if they get a SSelection of shapes sent over from India *ahem* make non concaved bats any more *ahem*
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That is ridicolous!
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What a pointless bat.
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They said that they will send me some pics of other bats for me to choose from so im hoping for an Amplus shape...
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What a pointless bat.
3 very sharp points! :) at least they seem to be looking after me but ill wait to see what they offer in return before getting too excited...
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Precisely why we stopped stocking them 2 years ago. If that's English made I'm the pope!
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Ant the handle is so thin, a normal grip was loose on it! I learnt to write with a thicker pencil in 1974...
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gawd almighty
you could snowboard in the alps on that
tally ho we're off to the winter Olympics!!
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Exactly what I saw at Lord's. Daft.
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That's just plain embarrassing.
That's pro grade, so £550 right?
Think I'd take that back and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. Show them the drawback of such a sharp spine...
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That's absolutely ridiculous, I was waving around a gorgeous MH09 the other day that for 280 looks a bargain, considering how much more wood was in it.
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despite it's slightly out there looks i'd be interested to see how it played - definitely looks a bit unsightly though!
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slightly out there looks
You're being far too kind to them there mate.
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Well they're not lying when they say its got 50mm edges :(
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I am certainly no fan of concaving, from my experience of concaved bats. That said playing devils advocate, what is the difference between this form of extreme concaving and the gn scoop (which B Lara had no problem with amongst others) and the dinadrive, surely the scoops in those 2 bats act like extreme concaving.
Just a thought.
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Well they're not lying when they say its got 50mm edges :(
The spine's not much more either and the bit inbetween must only be what? 30ish mm? What a waste of time.
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30mm middle and 50mm edges. Perfect for the modern day village cricketer !
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I am certainly no fan of concaving, from my experience of concaved bats. That said playing devils advocate, what is the difference between this form of extreme concaving and the gn scoop (which B Lara had no problem with amongst others) and the dinadrive, surely the scoops in those 2 bats act like extreme concaving.
Just a thought.
good point...i'm not going to pretend I know the answer because for the life of me I cannot see how a bat which basically has the weight taken out of the back and has massive edges can possibly help you hit the ball further.
I just can't get my head around it....if it goes off the edge it aint going that far !! :)
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Exactly my thoughts when I went to the Burnley store to check them out, ridiculous concaving. Mentioned on a thread somewhere else that a young lad that we coach, has recently got loads of M&H gear, second time he used his bat, a big chunk/splinter was coming off on the edge after a mis-timed shot. Due to the edge being so thin and sharp with all the concaving. It was ridiculous and bound to happen to other bats over and over again. They took it back, sent it to Taunton, glued it, and you could clearly see they'd reduced the size and sharpness of the edge, to hopefully prevent it happening again, although I'm sure it will
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I am certainly no fan of concaving, from my experience of concaved bats. That said playing devils advocate, what is the difference between this form of extreme concaving and the gn scoop (which B Lara had no problem with amongst others) and the dinadrive, surely the scoops in those 2 bats act like extreme concaving.
Just a thought.
(disclaimer: intuitive rather than scientific explanation, I'm not doing the modelling on this!) The Dynadrive is a funny case where because all the mass is round the edges, it's quite well balanced across the blade which will actually help with off centre impacts. Normal concaving leaves the largest mass in the very middle of the bat which can act like a pivot for the big edges to move around, obviously not good. How this w shape would behave I'm not really sure! Possibly more like the Dynadrive as it's got a fair bit of mass directly at either edge, will definitely stress the blade in interesting ways though.
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Dynadrive and Scoop were never marketed on edge size, though i do see where you are coming from @Bats_Galore
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That is ridiculous and at that price I'd love to know the wood-per-pound sterling ratio - possibly lower than a full profile size 6 bat? Maybe not, but you get my point...
As a slight aside our skipper has one of Chris Woakes' actual Oblivion bats from a few years ago (he's his FA); very, very concaved (though not as much as that!)
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That is ridiculous and at that price I'd love to know the wood-per-pound sterling ratio - possibly lower than a full profile size 6 bat? Maybe not, but you get my point...
As a slight aside our skipper has one of Chris Woakes' actual Oblivion bats from a few years ago (he's his FA); very, very concaved (though not as much as that!)
I think back in 2011-2013 the oblivion was very concaved, I know mine was.
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Sounds about right, his may well be a 2013...
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So so bad...and the complete opposite to what the market is producing right now
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This bat reminds me of the V100s from a couple of years back.
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Wow that looks rubbish, I was thinking about buying one but not anymore...
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Is it designed to be used the other way and chop the ball in half.
Let us know how you get on it with it - perhaps looks are deceiving....
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Could you make one of these but with the spine dropped down that far and have the profile a U shape? Could see the first 100mm edge? Someone get b3 on the go with that, please.
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Expect this to go down like a lead balloon but M&H are offering 30% on the Compton bat today on their website. £385 with the code
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To be fair the outside edge seems to ping quite well from the viewing yesterday.
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Ha ha - £385 with the 30% off?
Hahahahaahahahaahahaha - bonkers!