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Title: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 23, 2016, 04:31:16 PM
Hello friend,

 I have a 2.13 custom G1 grade bat that feels very bottom heavy. To counterbalance, i have 2 SS ton grips on it. However, as a permanent fix, i'm thinking of getting it re-balanced (new handle, shave off wood at the toe etc..) and look forward to your opinion on whom to approach.

 My first choice is Laver & Wood , but i'm in the US and they are all the way across the pond in NZ.

 what do you recommend?

 update: Without the toe guard and the 2 grips, the bat weights @ 2.10.5
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: tom line on May 23, 2016, 04:43:07 PM
Purely for shipping costs given you are in the US it might be worth checking out Jason at cricketstoreonline
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on May 23, 2016, 04:45:02 PM
With a bat at 2.13 there gaols be some sizeable willow present to allow it to be rebalanced without replacing a handle etc.

Postage costs to the US aren't too bad currently as you can get next day delivery for around £30 one way.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: jd163 on May 23, 2016, 05:07:45 PM
Jason at cricketstoreonline is a good option if you are in US.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 23, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Purely for shipping costs given you are in the US it might be worth checking out Jason at cricketstoreonline

Thanks! i have purchased from Jason before and my understanding is that he is a retailer and not a bat maker. I could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 23, 2016, 05:51:38 PM
With a bat at 2.13 there gaols be some sizeable willow present to allow it to be rebalanced without replacing a handle etc.

Postage costs to the US aren't too bad currently as you can get next day delivery for around £30 one way.

 True. $30-$50 one way to NZ. not bad but just thinking about options.

 I bought a reserve from L&W and it's a 2.14 bat that picks up like a 2.10-2.11. Unbelievable balance and pickup. James mentioned using a heavier handle to achieve this effect. I had to weigh the bat to check if it really was a 2.14!
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: smilley792 on May 23, 2016, 05:53:42 PM
Thanks! i have purchased from Jason before and my understanding is that he is a retailer and not a bat maker. I could be completely wrong.

Jason refurbs and often shapes his own bats. A weight reduction/ balance will be easy for him.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: jd163 on May 23, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
Jason refurbs and often shapes his own bats. A weight reduction/ balance will be easy for him.

My teammates got weight reduction on 2 bats and he did a decent job. Should cost you $14 one way by USPS.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: maly on May 23, 2016, 07:18:39 PM
Hello friend,

 I have a 2.13 custom G1 grade bat that feels very bottom heavy. To counterbalance, i have 2 SS ton grips on it. However, as a permanent fix, i'm thinking of getting it re-balanced (new handle, shave off wood at the toe etc..) and look forward to your opinion on whom to approach.

 My first choice is Laver & Wood , but i'm in the US and they are all the way across the pond in NZ.

 what do you recommend?

Hi - I live in the US and can help with your request.  Please reach out to me.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Shortpitch on May 23, 2016, 08:44:01 PM
Hello friend,

 I have a 2.13 custom G1 grade bat that feels very bottom heavy. To counterbalance, i have 2 SS ton grips on it. However, as a permanent fix, i'm thinking of getting it re-balanced (new handle, shave off wood at the toe etc..) and look forward to your opinion on whom to approach.

 My first choice is Laver & Wood , but i'm in the US and they are all the way across the pond in NZ.

 what do you recommend?

Hi Kris,

I live in US too, I have sent my Bats for re-handle and refurbishing to Laver couple of times. Great service. Shipping cost is bit pain, but I would put my bat in the Laver hand for refurbish any time. My RNS is 5 years old and is re-handled and refurbished, still going strong. Almost 4 guys in my team use it. And my reserve is refurbished by Laver looks new this season.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: InternalTraining on May 23, 2016, 08:59:58 PM
@sunny_Kris , Reach out to @crictech . He is based in California and can do bat repairs. He replaced a handle on my bat and did a good job.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: mp07 on May 23, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
You can cut off 1/2 inch from the top of handle and sanding on the toe.   That should bring it down to 2.10-11
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on May 23, 2016, 09:14:03 PM
You can cut off 1/2 inch from the top of handle and sanding on the toe.   That should bring it down to 2.10-11

That won't necessarily be good for the balance though.  Removing about an oz of willow lower down the blade will Improve the pick up. As others have said, there is likely to be a decent amount of wood in it so you won't miss a little bit.

Heavy handles can be good to balance a bat when making it. Adding one in later to a pre made bat will help to rebalance it, but potentially add more dead weight which will cause issues if you're not used to using it.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 24, 2016, 01:34:28 AM
Hi Kris,

I live in US too, I have sent my Bats for re-handle and refurbishing to Laver couple of times. Great service. Shipping cost is bit pain, but I would put my bat in the Laver hand for refurbish any time. My RNS is 5 years old and is re-handled and refurbished, still going strong. Almost 4 guys in my team use it. And my reserve is refurbished by Laver looks new this season.

 sweet! im amazed by the balance of my reserve and will most probably end up sending it to James and co.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 24, 2016, 01:36:49 AM
Heavy handles can be good to balance a bat when making it. Adding one in later to a pre made bat will help to rebalance it, but potentially add more dead weight which will cause issues if you're not used to using it.

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense.
I'm only moderately uncomfortable with my bottom heavy 2.13. I guess it should be fine playing with a 2.13 that picks up lighter.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 24, 2016, 01:41:49 AM
You can cut off 1/2 inch from the top of handle and sanding on the toe.   That should bring it down to 2.10-11
thanks for the suggestion. However, I'm not sure that will work just from a physics and torque perspective. A shorter handle will only shift the weight lower as I will be forced to hold the bat closer to the shoulder. It will work if i sand a lot of wood out of the bat to balance it but that may end up spoiling the bat.

 i would rather have a surgeon perform the operation and bear the extra cost than butcher it.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Sitonit on May 24, 2016, 03:03:14 PM

 My first choice is Laver & Wood , but i'm in the US and they are all the way across the pond in NZ.

 what do you recommend?

What's the big deal in that?
I have ordered bats from James at least five times and he was quick to ship it to US. All bats arrived in great shape and no custom or import duties were raised against my packages.

Matter of fact, after a few years break, I rcently placed an order with L&W for a specialized custom order bat (Mega) with super high sweet spot location since the Mega bats are heavy.
The bat will arrive in a couple weeks. Will post pics.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 25, 2016, 09:59:35 PM
What's the big deal in that?

 Cost, my friend. I'm not exactly a .com millionaire.   :)
 The cost of shipping is as much as the cost of the service provided.

Matter of fact, after a few years break, I rcently placed an order with L&W for a specialized custom order bat (Mega) with super high sweet spot location since the Mega bats are heavy.
The bat will arrive in a couple weeks. Will post pics.
please do. haven't seen any L&W bat porn lately.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 25, 2016, 10:02:23 PM
My RNS is 5 years old and is re-handled and refurbished, still going strong. Almost 4 guys in my team use it. And my reserve is refurbished by Laver looks new this season.

@Shortpitch :  this might be a a long shot, but do you have any 'before' and 'after' pictures of the RNS?
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Shortpitch on May 26, 2016, 05:22:01 AM
@Shortpitch :  this might be a a long shot, but do you have any 'before' and 'after' pictures of the RNS?

As you said its a long shot, I will search for the broken handle pics from 5 years back, also will send the pics of the current bat with handle in a week as my mate is using that bat for the matches. Need to mention that, this re-handle was free to me as I bought my reserve at the same time, so paid I guess around 475 US dollars for Bat. I do see that the Handle is not in same league of my reserve or special reserve or my mate's private bin, but its on par with my butterfly. That's just my observation. So if you decide to send it to laver for re handle, I guess you need to be very specific.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 28, 2016, 08:43:24 PM
 Here are some pics of the bat :


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sunnykris/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20weight_zpsa1qvgif0.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/sunnykris/media/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20weight_zpsa1qvgif0.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sunnykris/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20%20front_zps7lfgshl4.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/sunnykris/media/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20%20front_zps7lfgshl4.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sunnykris/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20Rapta%20Profile%201_zpslglkxg0i.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/sunnykris/media/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20Rapta%20Profile%201_zpslglkxg0i.jpg.html)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sunnykris/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20%20back_zpsdfluxhag.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/sunnykris/media/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/Old%20rapta%20%20back_zpsdfluxhag.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Mattsky on May 28, 2016, 09:35:52 PM
You play on a bouncy deck by any chance? ☺
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 28, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
You play on a bouncy deck by any chance? ☺

 in AZ, we play on mats. The ball usually keeps low, with the occasional chest high bouncer. I'm a lower order batsman and as you can see, the ball has hit everywhere but the handle :)
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sanredrose on May 28, 2016, 10:53:41 PM
@sunny_Kris - Jason, Zafar and Richard are good option for getting your bat re-balanced or weight reduced in US.
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sunny_Kris on May 29, 2016, 01:59:30 PM
Thank you all for your suggestions. I got lucky. One of my team-mates had ordered another t-rapta fury 100 and he wasn't too happy with his bat and we exchanged.
Same profile, but the balance and pickup is perfect for me.

Here's the bat i got :

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g62/sunnykris/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/New%20Rapta%202.8_zpsvpeakhlj.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/sunnykris/media/Mobile%20Uploads/T-rapta/New%20Rapta%202.8_zpsvpeakhlj.jpg.html)

 Initially, I was worried about the knot, but after pinging it (even without knocking it in), the bat is a rocket launcher. Looks almost like a butterfly :)

 What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: Batbuddy99 on May 29, 2016, 03:42:33 PM
What happened to all your grips?
Title: Re: Bat rebalancing
Post by: sanredrose on May 29, 2016, 05:06:22 PM
Bat looks pretty good. I wouldn't think too much about the knots if the ping is very good ...