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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Sitonit on July 09, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
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So Ricky Ponting is one the first significant high profile cricket personnel has voiced his opinion to enforce more regulations on cricket bats in an attempt to bring some balance back in the game.
Even though, in his own days Ricky played with a graphite reinforced bat, I think he has a point.
I remember the days when fans would jump out of their seats and dance in joy when a four was hit. (Just like when a goal is scored in a tense soccer game)
These days, people yawn at sixes.
It has reach to a point that I enjoy watching baseball ball more than IPL.
These sixes look meaningless.
What's after this?
T10, F5, and then just a one over matches? What we call those? A super-over match or O1?
They decreased the boundary lines, they choked the charm of bouncers, they gave a free license to kill in the name of free hit, they enforced powerplay and whatnot, all in an effort to create more artificial excitement in the game and generate more revenue. But they didn't realize that you can't scare the public with the same alligator for too long.
To really put the skills to test, I would like the following changes.
1 - Boundary lines MUST BE 85 meters for ANY int'l game for ALL 3 formats. Any ground that does not meet this requirement should be disqualified for international games.
2 - No free hit rule. Front foot no ball and beamers may result in 2 runs penalty.
3 - Bat's weight range should be 2.10 and 2.12. Max edge size 35 mm. Max spine size 55 mm. Toe size max 20 mm. Shoulder max size 15 mm
4 - No restriction on bouncers per over.
5 - No limit on number of overs on a bowler. If a batsman could bat as long as he wants to bat then a bowler should also be allowed to bowl as long as he wants to long.
^^^ THIS will separate boys from men.
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Interesting!
1. Agree.
2. Agree.
3. Suits me as I use 2.7 / 2.8... but limiting weight/edge size etc is not the answer (with that logic tennis should go back to wooden racquets). Heavy bats have been around for a long time and if you are strong enough to use one then you have an advantage - Darwinism at its finest.
4. Disagree, it will promote negative bowling and negative fields.
5. This would probably not work as sides would pick 8 batsmen a keeper and 2 bowlers. Maybe increase the number of overs for bowlers but 4 bowlers minimum should have to bowl.
I would think about removing the fielding restrictions or introducing sportier pitches personally... can't smack everything if it is seaming around!
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1 - Boundary lines MUST BE 85 meters for ANY int'l game for ALL 3 formats. Any ground that does not meet this requirement should be disqualified for international games. - Agree that the boundary distance should not be very short.
2 - No free hit rule. Front foot no ball and beamers may result in 2 runs penalty. - Disagree; no balls should be penalised with a free hit
3 - Bat's weight range should be 2.10 and 2.12. Max edge size 35 mm. Max spine size 55 mm. Toe size max 20 mm. Shoulder max size 15 mm - Can't say; I don't believe the bat size gives the batsman any undue advantage (other than psychological). If the size is restricted, the batsmen might struggle for a short while to adjust to the new restrictions but they will develop new skills to score runs. Bat manufacturers are also not going to sit quietly.
4 - No restriction on bouncers per over. - Agree but bowlers who bowl bouncers that are too high or too wide should be penalised heavily.
5 - No limit on number of overs on a bowler. If a batsman could bat as long as he wants to bat then a bowler should also be allowed to bowl as long as he wants to long. - Disagree
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We've seen in this years T20 Blast that variations are becoming a vital part of a bowlers arsenal.
If you keep serving up the same 80mph good length delivery/standard off spin then you're going to get punished. The name of the game in short format cricket is to score runs quickly, the batsman is out to attack you, outthink him.
Bringing in limits to bats/fielding positions/venues is just artificially hamstringing batsmen.
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No no no no no
BIG BATS FOREVER
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I dont know about everyone else, but where i live cricket is a fading sport. T20 probably just sparks enough interest in the young'uns to get the occasional one come through into senior 45/50 over stuff.
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Just make boundaries big for every game, get rid of silly field restrictions and use quality balls with big seams and watch it seam about and hitters nick off etc
Sure watching someone bat is fun but it boring watching smash after smash
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We've seen in this years T20 Blast that variations are becoming a vital part of a bowlers arsenal.
If you keep serving up the same 80mph good length delivery/standard off spin then you're going to get punished. The name of the game in short format cricket is to score runs quickly, the batsman is out to attack you, outthink him.
Bringing in limits to bats/fielding positions/venues is just artificially hamstringing batsmen.
This is EXACTLY where I differ in the opinion.
Wild, ugly and unorthodox slogging versus quality play.
I am not against quick scoring and a rain of big sixes. But they should be played in a standard size ground with a standard size bat. THIS is where the actual skills of a batsman are put to test.
I am not against T20 either but it has messed up with the mindset of the batsman, that we see in test cricket.
A number of Test games these days hardly last 3 to 4 days.
How often do you see an opening batsman carry the bat these days?
Kids watching a cricket game
The bowler runs up to his mark.
Comes charging down, passes the umpire and delivers his heart out.
Batsman ducks down to save his rear end, the ball takes the outside edge of a tree trunk in the name of a cricket bat, and lands over a 50 yards boundary for a SIX!
Hey kids,
Who wants to be a bowler?
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Minimum 85m boundaries? Kiss goodbye to the vast majority of international cricket grounds, including every single venue in some countries. As we all know from club cricket, yes boundaries can be too short but it's the same for both sides so rarely makes a big difference. Yeah make sure the boundaries aren't stupid small, but that long isn't necessary.
Forget the bats, put a decent seam on the balls and spice the pitches up a bit. Bowlers are starting to fight back anyway now with better disguised variations. Would be big in favour of increasing the number of bouncers permitted though.
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Minimum 85m boundaries? Kiss goodbye to the vast majority of international cricket grounds, including every single venue in some countries. As we all know from club cricket, yes boundaries can be too short but it's the same for both sides so rarely makes a big difference. Yeah make sure the boundaries aren't stupid small, but that long isn't necessary.
Forget the bats, put a decent seam on the balls and spice the pitches up a bit. Bowlers are starting to fight back anyway now with better disguised variations. Would be big in favour of increasing the number of bouncers permitted though.
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No need for me to comment as this is my opinion in a nutshell . Well said .
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This is EXACTLY where I differ in the opinion.
Wild, ugly and unorthodox slogging versus quality play.
I am not against quick scoring and a rain of big sixes. But they should be played in a standard size ground with a standard size bat. THIS is where the actual skills of a batsman are put to test.
I am not against T20 either but it has messed up with the mindset of the batsman, that we see in test cricket.
A number of Test games these days hardly last 3 to 4 days.
How often do you see an opening batsman carry the bat these days?
Kids watching a cricket game
The bowler runs up to his mark.
Comes charging down, passes the umpire and delivers his heart out.
Batsman ducks down to save his rear end, the ball takes the outside edge of a tree trunk in the name of a cricket bat, and lands over a 50 yards boundary for a SIX!
Hey kids,
Who wants to be a bowler?
I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. I can see what you're saying, but for me, bowlers need to man up and think of ways to get the batsman out instead of complaining that the bats are too big. "T20 Blast", "Big Bash", the clue is in the name for me.
But I guess my opinion could be biased, as I've never been interested in bowling.
For me, the edge going to the short boundary for 6 is on par with "That ball" Warne bowled that got Gooch. How are you supposed to play that? If every ball did that, there'd be no contest either.
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I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. I can see what you're saying, but for me, bowlers need to man up and think of ways to get the batsman out instead of complaining that the bats are too big. "T20 Blast", "Big Bash", the clue is in the name for me.
But I guess my opinion could be biased, as I've never been interested in bowling.
For me, the edge going to the short boundary for 6 is on par with "That ball" Warne bowled that got Gooch. How are you supposed to play that? If every ball did that, there'd be no contest either.
Man up???
Why don't we ask the batsmen to "man up" and remove the leg guards, gloves, helmet and groin guard, and then bat?
On an honest note though, it's a common belief that the game rules have been twisted to bring a heavy bias in favor of the batsmen.
How about we bring some of those amendments that I stated in OP, to bring a fair balance in the game? I am telling, if that happens, it will ONLY put the batsmen on the spot to "man up".
Plus, bowlers are not robots. With the amount of cricket a pace bowler has to play these days, his body simply cannot keep up with the work load. And to top it off - with these ridiculous batsmen favoring rules, we have simply killed the charm of fast bowling.
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Surely if everyone has the same equipment it's an even game?
Short format cricket is weighted towards batsman because the fans want to see the big hits, the big scores, if it was bats that are the issue test cricket would would have runrates of 8-10 an over.
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Man up???
Why don't we ask the batsmen to "man up" and remove the leg guards, gloves, helmet and groin guard, and then bat?
On an honest note though, it's a common belief that the game rules have been twisted to bring a heavy bias in favor of the batsmen.
How about we bring some of those amendments that I stated in OP, to bring a fair balance in the game? I am telling, if that happens, it will ONLY put the batsmen on the spot to "man up".
Plus, bowlers are not robots. With the amount of cricket a pace bowler has to play these days, his body simply cannot keep up with the work load. And to top it off - with these ridiculous batsmen favoring rules, we have simply killed the charm of fast bowling.
Maybe "Man up" was the wrong phrase. I just don't like the "Everything is weighted in the batsmans favour" rhetoric. Players can complain all day about it, or they can try to work out a way of combatting it.
The only suggestion I agree with is the no restrictions on bouncers, because the batsman can adapt and dab it over the keeper for a boundary if they are good enough.
In my opinion, 200 plays 200 is a better game than 100 plays 100.
I watch test cricket (My favourite format) for the battle between bat and ball. (Dukes ball, English conditions make for the best contest I think) I watch T20 for the big hits.
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I dont agree with the restricting of bat sizes. For me processes and technology has moved on enabling the production of these bats. Why isn't there the outcry over technology advances in lighter pads, gloves and shoes?
I would leave the bats alone and look at other ways of evening things up, boundary sizes at some grounds have got really small and think as suggested above a minimum size or something like that would be a start (although not sure what grounds that currently host international cricket who suddenly cannot host as they aren't big enough would say)
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although not sure what grounds that currently host international cricket who suddenly cannot host as they aren't big enough would say
Lords isnt that big straight, certainly not 85m?
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Back in the day (1980s) we used to play 20 over mid week league cricket - evening games. The boundaries were the same as for weekend games, the only variance being where on the square the strip was cut.
It was a different mindset back then. If you scored 120, a run a ball, you expected to be able to defend it! 150 and you were on easy street. Obviously we weren't pro standard, but we tended to be much of a muchness on ability so games were usually quite close.
As an example I recall one game where the strip was cut on the edge of the square so there was a shorter boundary, but it still took a very good hit to clear it. We scored 170-odd with one of our openers getting a ton. The opposition knocked them off, one of their opener's replying with a ton of his own. The relatively shorter boundary obviously playing a part. This was on a first class grade pitch/ground which hosted county and A list matches.
There were no restrictions on bouncers or fielding, or on bat size.
Heavier bats were coming into vogue, this was the era of the Magnum and Jumbo and the Symonds Super Tusker, all of which were in common use on the club scene with bats in the 2-12 to 3lb range very much in favour. Using them effectively was a different matter - today's first class players are obviously fitter and stronger on average than the first class players back then - I wouldn't like to hazard a guess on the club player comparisons.
I think restrictions on bats would be a bad move. I'd be in favour of bigger boundaries and less draconian no ball rules.
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I don't agree with the restricting of bats, yes the massive bats help but it also depends on the skill of the batsman as well, who cares it a thick edge goes for 4 or 6 it brings more excitement to the game. why would you set a standard size for boundaries both teams have the opportunity to bat it so it's not as though it's a disadvantage to one team, don't you want exciting high scoring games on small grounds!? on smaller grounds the skill of the bowling is tested and on bugger grounds it's the skill of the batsman
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I dont agree with the restricting of bat sizes. For me processes and technology has moved on enabling the production of these bats. Why isn't there the outcry over technology advances in lighter pads, gloves and shoes?
I would leave the bats alone and look at other ways of evening things up, boundary sizes at some grounds have got really small and think as suggested above a minimum size or something like that would be a start (although not sure what grounds that currently host international cricket who suddenly cannot host as they aren't big enough would say)
Riiiiiiiight.
So, if the argument is that, "it's the technology that has influenced the bats and lighter softs so we should be OK with it", THEN, how about we instill some technology in cricket ball, and produce a final product that will help the bowler swing and/or turn it heavily in any playing condition?
After all, it will be "technology", so we should be OK with such cricket balls.
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I don't agree with the restricting of bats, yes the massive bats help but it also depends on the skill of the batsman as well, who cares it a thick edge goes for 4 or 6 it brings more excitement to the game. why would you set a standard size for boundaries both teams have the opportunity to bat it so it's not as though it's a disadvantage to one team, don't you want exciting high scoring games on small grounds!? on smaller grounds the skill of the bowling is tested and on bugger grounds it's the skill of the batsman
High scoring doesn't mean it's more exciting though, in fact as we have seen, low scoring affairs are more enjoyable because it's not slog after slog after slog
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High scoring doesn't mean it's more exciting though, in fact as we have seen, low scoring affairs are more enjoyable because it's not slog after slog after slog
That's what I am saying.
There are two aspects to it.
If it's a high scoring game then so be it; however, display your skills to score high in a good size ground.
Watching ugly slogs for six, miscued hits for six, top edges landing for six, compromising for a "high scoring team innings" is not really a whole lot of fun.
The second aspect is, watching too many of these sixes is now getting boring. There is hardly anymore thril left. There is no reaction - you just watch the ball land over the boundary with a stone cold face.
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I think they should make more sporting wickets. Bat ball balance restored! There is no need to regulate bat sizes. At most the max weight can be set at 2-11 or so other than that having size restrictions will make it difficult to implement. Also bat ping is not related to sizes directly, so what is the point?
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Bat edges to be reduced to 35mm and bat depth 60mm by Oct 2017.
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https://twitter.com/theanalyst/status/752870660146335744
Amazing what the media can do
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Seems a good idea to an extent depending on what you turn up to see! Do you turn up to see 200 runs in 20 overs on an evening, or prefer to see more of an even contest?!
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Stock up on your big bats now then! That is pretty small. Will be pretty embarrassing when it makes little difference.
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I'm firmly in the "make more sporting wickets" camp.
How does restricting bat size/weight "put the skills of the batsman to the test"? If at the moment I use a 3lb bat with 50mm edges and a 70mm spine there is nothing to stop my opposite number using the exact same bat. Like @skip1973 alluded to, if everyone has the choice of the same range of equipment and plays on the same pitch, surely it's a fair contest?
Just to play devil's advocate (I don't actually 100% agree with this haha), there's always the opposite argument too, if people think that modern "roads" are too batsman friendly you could always argue that perhaps uncovered wickets back in the day were too bowler friendly. Or perhaps modern bowlers just simply aren't good enough to prevent the big hits, perhaps new batting techniques have developed much quicker than bowling ones?
Also just so people don't think I'm biased I'm a bowling all rounder (barely good enough at either discipline to be honest :D) so not just sticking up for the batsman
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I'm waiting for the moment the amateur league umpires get there bat gauges/weighing scales. And test everyone's bat as they come out to bat.
We've got plenty of umpires out there yeah?? They'll be more than happy to be doing this(as its declared one of the reasons I s due to balls flying out of grounds effecting the existence of smaller clubs).
I'm also waiting for the 5th xi game when apposing team say to the batting a sides own player who's umpiring. "That bats to big tell him to change it". "Okay, jim you'll have to use your sons bat today."
No worries Pete, I'll is it rush off and get it now"
Fun time ahead. It won't lead to any issues. At all..........
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I don't see a problem at First Class or International level.
But trying to implement these changes at village level? Most of us would have absolutely no real advantage by using a huge bat......in fact it is generally more of a disadvantage as they are generally heavier than our usual bat. So is it really worth implementing all the way down? :(
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I don't see a problem at First Class or International level.
But trying to implement these changes at village level? Most of us would have absolutely no real advantage by using a huge bat......in fact it is generally more of a disadvantage as they are generally heavier than our usual bat. So is it really worth implementing all the way down? :(
But Pete they mention the recreational game and plight of smaller clubs.
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/68B8FD45-0005-4733-AF25-FABF88BED78C_zpssoqxk27i.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/68B8FD45-0005-4733-AF25-FABF88BED78C_zpssoqxk27i.jpg.html)
So they must want to implement it all the way through the game
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35mm edge and 60mm spine isn't going to challenge most batmakers. Get ready to see a load of bats with exactly the same full profile resulting in just as big a hitting zone. Oh and the bats will be lighter, resulting in quicker bat speed. Until they use a dukes ball in all first class cricket, produce bowler friendly decks and move the bloody boundaries back to where they were 20 years ago, nothing will change.
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All valid points - perhaps we should just go ahead and ban variations, switch hits etc?!
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Breaking news: the MCC have announced recommendations that Chris Gayle will be banned from all forms of cricket with immediate effect.
A weight limit would be a more interesting (also potentially more annoying) proposal than size limits. Unprecedented move though, surely if you're big and quick enough to use a 3lb bat then good luck to you.
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can we not send the bowlers back down the mines on a shift the night before a game ? and the canary.
'back in my day ayyeee 50 t'overs oophill in rain,snow, now't for toenails and boot like deep-sea diver was I, by eck'
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Surely what we will see is a longer middle now? As in far more of the edge will be 35mm, and more of the spine be 60mm - as opposed to a more swollen shape nowadays? Wouldn't that mean that more mishits lower down or higher up would still go for six?
Does that make sense?
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to be serious I cant see where this is really going, bats have developed massively in the last few years.
I agree with the poster previously, let bats develop and do away with covers, all matches on uncovered wickets......
that would then be an even contest between bat and ball.....but we know the test matches are money-spinners, 5 days tests are the ideal for TV and sponsorship, and hospitality.
But I would love to see uncovered tracks.....
:)
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"Sir, please do not bowl so fast. It's hurting my feelings"
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Make a 35mm edge and a wider spine, which is 45mm and starts 2mm in from the edge
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Make a 35mm edge and a wider spine, which is 45mm and starts 2mm in from the edge
Ha yes, some kind of GN Vortex/Slaz V1200 crossbreed, sorted!
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Time to stock up on a Kaboom or two
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Won't make a difference.
Wickets need to be sporting, boundaries bigger, use dukes in all cricket, no silly fielding circles and bring back the draw at amateur level as it'll reduce the need to smash every ball as bowling becomes important again, not just smashing runs
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Ricky Ponting Has "Willow Envy"
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I think rounder faces and fuller shapes will make a comeback.
More emphasis on the handle and pressing now.
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So When The Bat Restrictions Don't Work And The Ball Continues To Fly Over The Boundary, Will They Then Look At The Real Issues Such As Switching To The Duke Ball Rather Than Bending Over For Kookaburra. Make The Use Of The Duke Ball Mandatory For Test Nations, Address Flat Pitches. Setting A Maximum Size For The Boundary According To And Depending On The Size Of The Stadium. If You Set The Boundary To 85+ metres You Could Gross Out Every Stadium In New Zealand, Half The Stadiums In The United Kingdom & Most In The Caribbean.
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https://twitter.com/theanalyst/status/752870660146335744
Amazing what the media can do
That's just one aspect but it would hardly have any effect if we are playing in a 60 yard boundary.
If not 85, then 80 meters boundary should be minimum.
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There will be a black market for 41mm edge bats lol
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If it's not happening until next year it's about time I stocked up on 46mm+ bats!!
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I Find Ricky Ponting Championing The Cause For Bat Restrictions Is A Bit Rich, Considering He Pissed And Moaned When The Kookaburra Carbon Was Banned Back In 2006. I Think He Called The MCC Narrow Minded & Short Sighted. Stating That It Gave Him No Advantaged Over The Bowler.
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I think cbf is the real loser here.
Threads will no longer be replied to in awe with phrases of "wow that massive for the weight" "what a monster" "50mm edge and no concaving seriously"
They will be replaced with.
"Yes, That looks within limits at a legal weight" "well done on purchasing a bat that looks like all the rest"
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who's going to take a ruler with them when umpiring now?
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If not big bats, what are we going to appreciate now? Stickers? Bleh!
I remember Ponting goading KP during BBL's commentary session (despite KP's request to just lay off); I realized that day that Ponting is a piece of work! What an ignoramus. <thumbs down/middle finger!>
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If it's not happening until next year it's about time I stocked up on 46mm+ bats!!
It's not a bat idea. Those big bats are mighty fine for a T-20 club level outing. Sad thing is that custom bat makers can't bow the bats like GN can and GN is the only bat maker that is doing it right.
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That's just one aspect but it would hardly have any effect if we are playing in a 60 yard boundary.
If not 85, then 80 meters boundary should be minimum.
The Shortest Boundary At Trent Bridge In Nottingham And Eden Park In Auckland Are 65 metres And They Sit Right On The Edge Of The Stands As It Is. So Straight Away Their Ruled Out From International Cricket And They Wouldn't Be The Only Ones If The Boundary Minimum Is Set To 80-85metres.
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Sometimes wonder what is the true reasoning for restricting bat size. The factors people have been talking about can easily be contradicted.
For instance, there are more test matches ending in results which means bowlers are taking 20 wickets, 400+ score was chased down more than 10 years ago when the bats were smaller. Why not accept the fact that batsmen of current age are lot more creative, hard working and successful than yesteryear's.
I think its a conspiracy by retired cricketers because they see batsmen of this generation scoring lot more and easily than them.
Guys like Kohli, ABD, Amla, Smith etc use normal size bats (compared to Warner's) and still score heavily.
Sachin used a 3 lb bat and scored tons of runs and no one complained. Weight puts the ball further away not the volume....
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Looking at the positive side - will this bring down bat prices as theoritically more of them could be made?
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Sometimes wonder what is the true reasoning for restricting bat size. The factors people have been talking about can easily be contradicted.
For instance, there are more test matches ending in results which means bowlers are taking 20 wickets, 400+ score was chased down more than 10 years ago when the bats were smaller. Why not accept the fact that batsmen of current age are lot more creative, hard working and successful than yesteryear's.
I think its a conspiracy by retired cricketers because they see batsmen of this generation scoring lot more and easily than them.
Guys like Kohli, ABD, Amla, Smith etc use normal size bats (compared to Warner's) and still score heavily.
Sachin used a 3 lb bat and scored tons of runs and no one complained. Weight puts the ball further away not the volume....
Tests are ending early due to lesser skilled batsmen though, aka they are just playing white ball style and so scoring quickly but can't last long. That's not test cricket
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They're not exactly being very specific so I think I'll go for this cheeky number for Laver and Wood. Nothing wrong with a 35mm edge that runs from handle to toe!!
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Lets be honest how many club umpires or even premier league umpires know what a laminated bat is? Bat sizes will not filter down to the below first class level. To even things up why couldn't there be a five over bowling powerplay where test match wide's are in operation and the fielding side can have six men on the boundary. To be extremely radical why not let the fielding side have a new ball for those 5 overs and also let them bowl of 18 yards. The balance needs to be addressed but what's next are we going to stop batsmen going to the gym for six months a year. Players of today are generally fitter and stronger. Let's compare Gatting's physique to Warner's, shall we???
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(http://i.imgur.com/hXKoBzI.jpg)
Here's a new bat design which fits within the regs. A meagre 15mm edge, but we've packed the weight onto the spine.
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Here's a new bat design which fits within the regs. A meagre 15mm edge, but we've packed the weight onto the spine.
Good call! I will take one in 2'10 thanks ;)
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Tests are ending early due to lesser skilled batsmen though, aka they are just playing white ball style and so scoring quickly but can't last long. That's not test cricket
Not entirely true. This style of aggressive batting in test matches existed in 80s and 90s, mostly played by West Indians and Aussies. They scored between 3-3.5 per over which is what we see now. And whats wrong with aggressive limited over style batting in test matches if we can get a result, better than a draw where each team bats for 2 days and scores 500+.
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The Shortest Boundary At Trent Bridge In Nottingham And Eden Park In Auckland Are 65 metres And They Sit Right On The Edge Of The Stands As It Is. So Straight Away Their Ruled Out From International Cricket And They Wouldn't Be The Only Ones If The Boundary Minimum Is Set To 80-85metres.
So be it!
ICC generates 100 and millions of dollars every year.
They should partner with such cricket boards/grounds and remove the front rows to push back the boundary line IF the ground administration wants it to be qualified for international cricket.
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I think cbf is the real loser here.
Threads will no longer be replied to in awe with phrases of "wow that massive for the weight" "what a monster" "50mm edge and no concaving seriously"
They will be replaced with.
"Yes, That looks within limits at a legal weight" "well done on purchasing a bat that looks like all the rest"
Probably there will be some awes and shocks.
Something like, "wow!! 35 mm edges and 60 spine with no concaving, long blade and long handle with 3 grips at 1lbs 2oz ??"
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Not entirely true. This style of aggressive batting in test matches existed in 80s and 90s, mostly played by West Indians and Aussies. They scored between 3-3.5 per over which is what we see now. And whats wrong with aggressive limited over style batting in test matches if we can get a result, better than a draw where each team bats for 2 days and scores 500+.
Limited overs batting isn't test batting! Otherwise what is the point of different formats ? If you want see fast scoring on flat roads watch white ball.. If you want to see skilled batting against testing conditions then watch tests. Currently you barely notice a difference.
2020 is amateurs white ball biff and tickle and it's 50 over stuff should be where you have to earn it, both with bat and ball. 50 over with all the silly fielding restrictions, win/lose has removed so much from the game, you simply barely need a bowling attack in win/lose.. Just the ability bat deep and smash 300+ to win games., can't do that with draw cricket as you'd never win a game
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So be it!
ICC generates 100 and millions of dollars every year.
They should partner with such cricket boards/grounds and remove the front rows to push back the boundary line IF the ground administration wants it to be qualified for international cricket.
Good idea. Very few grounds around the world are 100% full all of the time. Take the seats out, make it look/feel fuller. Better atmosphere that way.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BASVAMPIREUK/status/779579981022236676
Just spotted this, have bat makers on here received this too? Looks like they're testing the water to make this official. I'm intrigued. what will your replies to the MCC be? I think they're being a bit stingy on the edges personally! 35mm, tight gits!
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Some interesting replies and notions going on here.
One thought might be to uncover the pitches, let the weather on them and see who has the skill to cope.
At my level, I've seen a few good batsmen come a cropper playing on uncovered council run pitches.
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I'm no scientist or bat expert.
But if you have a bat with 50mm edges and 50mm spine, shots off the edge will go far but shots out of the middle will be hampered by the lack of mass behind the ball.
Conversely:
If you have a bat with 20mm edges and a 70mm spine, shots of the edge of the bat will be weak, but shots out of the middle will go much further due to the mass being behind the ball?
I.e after you've played 10 shots, middled 5 and edged 5, you've hit the ball the same distance?
Therefore, talented batsmen choose the big spine, less talented (Moi) chose the big edge. I'm surprised the boffins at ICL found that big edges mean the ball always goes further. The skeptic in me wonders if years of experience is not as valuable than someone with a degree who's never played. Maybe it's just because I love BIG BATS.
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I'm surprised the boffins at ICL found that big edges mean the ball always goes further.
that is precisely the point - the boffins at the ICC / MCC haven't and have relied on ex players shoe horning this in. There was one paper commissioned, that to be honest my 8 year old could have written and was never published in any scientific journal, I am guessing for its lack of scientific justification.
The leaked paper in this thread looks very amateurish - and my guess a fake. I still believe that the ICC/MCC will come to their senses and see that there are more effective ways to re address the balance, many of which have been mentioned on here.
Ball manufacture would be the main one that I would look at, in conjunction with fielding restrictions and boundary distance.
The only reason this has gone so far is the progression of TV and super slow mo's showing where the ball actually hits the blade. Who's to say that all of Botham's big hits where from the middle..... Oh because we cant.
If I were a modern day professional player, that trains in the gym 5 - 6 times a week, practices/develops an array of shots in the nets to given themselves an advantage - I would be utterly p1ssed with the likes of Pontin et al justifying the bats mens dominance by the size of his bat.
This gets me mad - hopefully the governing bodies will look to justify any new law with science rather than hearsay from ill informed ex pro's.
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if this becomes MCC Law will it be applicable to first class bats or all bats manufactured?
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All the MCC related stuff goes in this journal @The Doctor
https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/journal/proceedings-institution-mechanical-engineers-part-p-journal-sports-engineering-and
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All the MCC related stuff goes in this journal @The Doctor
https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/journal/proceedings-institution-mechanical-engineers-part-p-journal-sports-engineering-and
Good Stuff - would like to read the articles that have been published - have you a link?
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that is precisely the point - the boffins at the ICC / MCC haven't and have relied on ex players shoe horning this in. There was one paper commissioned, that to be honest my 8 year old could have written and was never published in any scientific journal, I am guessing for its lack of scientific justification.
The leaked paper in this thread looks very amateurish - and my guess a fake. I still believe that the ICC/MCC will come to their senses and see that there are more effective ways to re address the balance, many of which have been mentioned on here.
Ball manufacture would be the main one that I would look at, in conjunction with fielding restrictions and boundary distance.
The only reason this has gone so far is the progression of TV and super slow mo's showing where the ball actually hits the blade. Who's to say that all of Botham's big hits where from the middle..... Oh because we cant.
If I were a modern day professional player, that trains in the gym 5 - 6 times a week, practices/develops an array of shots in the nets to given themselves an advantage - I would be utterly p1ssed with the likes of Pontin et al justifying the bats mens dominance by the size of his bat.
This gets me mad - hopefully the governing bodies will look to justify any new law with science rather than hearsay from ill informed ex pro's.
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We can only hope they do have a good long rethink of their approach, my question is this though: why are BAS tweeting photos of a fake email from the MCC?!
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Just saw this on AOC. DO you think his bat would fit within the regulations? Looks mighty close!
http://www.alloutcricket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/106943643-e1475074397275.jpg (http://www.alloutcricket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/106943643-e1475074397275.jpg)
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I agree with everything @The Doctor said, and would add that in modern one day cricket, the ball never gets soft as its never more than 25 overs old due to a new ball being used from each end.
Every batmaker i have spoken to says this is nonsense, but in a tongue in cheek way have declared it a brilliant idea, it will make their lives easier as they won't be required to produce huge bats, of course most of time people still expect them at lighter weights which is extremely difficult. My latest reference on this point that made chuckle is the guy on the forum asking about the Warner replica laminates that B&S have, and whether any were 2'8....
Just to add the document from the MCC is genuine, it had been left on the trade display stand of every batmaker who attended the Lords show.
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I agree with everything @The Doctor said, and would add that in modern one day cricket, the ball never gets soft as its never more than 25 overs old due to a new ball being used from each end.
Every batmaker i have spoken to says this is nonsense, but in a tongue in cheek way have declared it a brilliant idea, it will make their lives easier as they won't be required to produce huge bats, of course most of time people still expect them at lighter weights which is extremely difficult. My latest reference on this point that made chuckle is the guy on the forum asking about the Warner replica laminates that B&S have, and whether any were 2'8....
Just to add the document from the MCC is genuine, it had been left on the trade display stand of every batmaker when attended the Lords show.
I am quite happy to go on record and say this is a truly awful idea, and will have no impact in what they want to achieve. The quality of the document says everything about the MCC - just to make sure we are in 2016 and Cricket is a professional sport
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I am quite happy to go on record and say this is a truly awful idea, and will have no impact in what they want to achieve. The quality of the document says everything about the MCC - just to make sure we are in 2016 and Cricket is a professional sport
Yes shockingly worded, and i did a double take when i saw the dimensions of the guage at 110mm, i'm all for wider bats, i'll get bowled less :D
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From my own experience at a low level I use a heavy David Warner Kaboom for T20s and a much lighter GN e41 for other games. If I tried to slog with the e41 I would be out pretty fast as the edges aren't very big and they just pop up into the infield. I know I can get away with a poor connection with the heavy bat so I play the shot. When I connect properly I don't think it actually goes any further than with the other bat.
I have no idea if the top players have a similar mentality. Maybe with lighter bats or bats with thinner edges, the pros will not play the 'ugly' slogs as the reward may not be great enough for the risk.
You do see a lot of shots landing in the first few rows and maybe they will land in the fielders hands if the bats aren't as effective? I do like to see a 220 v 219 game more than anything. The dabs around the corner are my favourite, not so much the heaves over cow. The worst game is when the team is reduced to 50-6 and you get the feeling it is all over and the day of cricket you were anticipating has been ruined.
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Hello Everyone, Please Correct Me If I Am Wrong But The New Cricket Bat Regulation Change's Look Like They Are And Will Be Pushed Through Quickly And As Quitely As Possible In Time For The 2017/2018 Seasons. I Have Spoken To Companies Such As Warsop And Salix And The Information They Have Been Given Confirms The Regulations Will Be In Place By October 2017 And They Are Adamant On These Dates. The MCC/ICC Have Already Commissioned The Imperial College Of London To Produce Samples For A Bat Gauge And They Have Spoken To Companies Such As Laver & Wood And Salix Who Are All Advocates Of The New Regulations And Smaller Bats And Are Totally Against The Current Big Bat Market. Laver & Wood Have Even Gone As Far To Produced Their Own Bat Gauge Which The Show Cased And Previewed On Facebook And Twitter And Actual Sent To The MCC.
Some One Hopefully One Of The Forum Members " Needs To Champion The Big Bat Campaign " And Prove Or Disprove The Effect Of Big Bats. I Have Invested A Large Amount Of Time And Money Into My Cricket Bat Collection And Effectively Over Night Every Single One Will Be Outlawed. Now Every Forum Member Needs To Take A Look At Their Own Collection And Think How Many Of Your Bats Will Be Ruled Out With The New Regulations With A 35mm? Edge And A 60mm? Spine. Now Would You Really Want Your Bats To Be Sent Back To Have Them Reduced In Size To Conform To The New Regulations Or Be Forced To Spend Thousands Of Pounds Or Dollars On New Purchases To Obtain A Product That Is Basically The Same Or Similar To The Person Standing Next To You. Because Most People Will Find Their Current Bats Either Because Of Spine Height Or Edge Thickness Or Weight Will Be Outlawed And You Will End Up With A Nice Collection Of English Willow Paper Weights Or Art Work To Hang On Your Wall. The Next Thing You Will Say , Oh Don't Worry The New Laws Will Only Apply To International & First Class Cricket And Hopefully This Will Be The Case But Unfortunately They Are Looking To Enforce This Right Through All Levels Of Cricket. :o :o :o :(
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But Unfortunately They Are Looking To Enforce This Right Through All Levels Of Cricket. :o :o :o :(
Even if they do choose to ban at amateur level, it will be completely ineffective. Laminates have been banned for a number of years, we sold one last week, and i see them used fairly regularly in club cricket.
Any ban will be in the professional game and will also be in place to stop manufacturers producing 'illegal' bats going forward. In amateur club cricket it will be extremely difficult to enforce a ban on bats already made/purchased. The same happened when Carbon handles were banned, existing bats were fine to be used for the rest of their natural life, but no more were allowed to be made. Graphite backed Kookaburras, the inserts in the back of the M&H S6, the cork added into the gap drilled inside the blade of the original Hunts Turbo, all of these have been banned but the bats are still in use at club level.
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Hello Jake, Vitas Cricket Their Insight Has Been Very Helpful As I Have Contacted Them Several Times On This Topic And They Have A Fantastic Insight & Knowledge. I Would Just Like To Take A Quick Moment To Say That Vita's Cricket In Particularly Jake's Service Is Above And Beyond Anyone Else I Have Dealt With In The Past And They Provide Such An Incredible Quality Product & Customer Service. Right Free Endorsements Over.
I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Wannabe} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.
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Hello Jake, Vitas Cricket Their Insight Has Been Very Helpful As I Have Contacted Them Several Times On This Topic And They Have A Fantastic Insight & Knowledge. I Would Just Like To Take A Quick Moment To Say That Vita's Cricket In Particularly Jake's Service Is Above And Beyond Anyone Else I Have Dealt With In The Past And They Provide Such An Incredible Quality Product & Customer Service. Right Free Endorsements Over.
I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Want To Be} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.
I'm guessing from the nice review and the interest in big bats that you are Rod? If yes then you certainly have some lovely, hefty bits of H4L willow in your arsenal!
I agree theres always someone, this year we had an opponent go down injured while batting, we asked a couple of times if he wanted a runner. He kept ignoring us, eventually we worked out that he thought we were taking the piss because he thought runners were banned. The ban on having a runner is an international playing regulation, and is nothing to do with the rules of cricket that govern amateur club level. This just highlights the confusion there can be when it comes to whats banned and at what level.
Without umpires it would be totally unenforceable if you ask me, there might be some argy bargy, but its the same as a wicket keeper keeping with old school gloves with a web thats way too big, if there isn't an independent umpire there to rule on it, the person who has an issue has a choice, either play or forfeit the game.
I've seen plenty of umpires who wouldn't know what a laminate was, others who are made aware of them have never done anything about it, just an answer along the lines of 'bloody well get on with it'
Me personally, i'm too weak to use a 3lb+ bat, but i've got a huge GN Pro Performance bat ordered up in a manageable weight, if i like it i'll be stockpiling a couple more before any potential ban comes in
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Hello Jake, I Forgot To Add Sherlock Holmes Sleuth Type Skills In Your Repertoire, In My Endorsement. Couldn't Have Been To Hard To Guess It Was Me. Yes I Have Contacted JS Wrights And Hell4leather And Expressed A Need To Stock Up On Oversized Clefts As I Will Be Placing A Bulk Order For New Caveman Clubs Before Any Ban Takes Place. Only Thing Is I Have Had To Reconsider A Custom Order From Marcus For A Beautiful Affinity Voodoo Monster Due To The Up In The Air Discussions Behind Closed Doors About The New Regulations. And This Could Effect Any Future Purchase's.
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Even if they do choose to ban at amateur level, it will be completely ineffective. Laminates have been banned for a number of years, we sold one last week, and i see them used fairly regularly in club cricket.
'illegal' bats going forward. In amateur club cricket it will be extremely difficult to enforce a ban on bats already made/purchased. The same happened when Carbon handles were banned, existing bats were fine to be used for the rest of their natural life, but no more were allowed to be made. Graphite backed Kookaburras, the inserts in the back of the M&H S6, the cork added into the gap drilled inside the blade of the original Hunts Turbo, all of these have been banned but the bats are still in use at club level.
Most People Wouldn't Spot A Laminate Cricket Or Carbon Handle Bat Or Be Bothered About A 38mm Edge. But When You Walk Out With A Caveman Club In Your Hands Everyone's Going To Notice The Size Of Your Willow. :D ;)
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I Totally Agree It Will Be Hard To Enforce The New Laws Such As Laminates And Others Have Been Over The Years. But You Know As Soon As You Walk Out With A 50mm Edge, 75mm Spine 3LB+ CAVEMAN CLUB, There Will Be One Plonker {Ricky Ponting Want To Be} Who Will Start Kicking Up A Fuss And Sceaming It's Illegal And Want The Bat Removed. Every Team Has One.
Why is that? Is there a way to spot these ani before they become part of your team? My team has one and it won't be easy removing him especially when your captain is not interested in removing ani from the team.
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I overheard a phonecall today with the lawmakers at the MCC who confirmed there would be a moratorium for amateur cricketers to use their bats that don't conform. The length of the grace period hasn't been decided yet but considering they estimated is would be at least 3 years (from October 2017 when the law is apparently scheduled to change) before the regulations came in at minor counties level, i think club cricketers will be fine for the foreseeable.
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I overheard a phonecall today with the lawmakers at the MCC who confirmed there would be a moratorium for amateur cricketers to use their bats that don't conform. The length of the grace period hasn't been decided yet but considering they estimated is would be at least 3 years (from October 2017 when the law is apparently scheduled to change) before the regulations came in at minor counties level, i think club cricketers will be fine for the foreseeable.
Our tournament heads said they will force the rules on us...... In Denmark... Really... Do it to the internationals, not to us random blokes.
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I'm not sure why there is so much negativity about this, can't beat a bit of good old timing when playing a shot.
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And the fact size is not in truth why it goes miles....
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Well said Dave.
Well I for one am looking forward to round face making a comeback.
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And the fact size is not in truth why it goes miles....
You can tell people this until you're blue in the face...
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So Ricky Ponting is one the first significant high profile cricket personnel has voiced his opinion to enforce more regulations on cricket bats in an attempt to bring some balance back in the game.
Even though, in his own days Ricky played with a graphite reinforced bat, I think he has a point.
I remember the days when fans would jump out of their seats and dance in joy when a four was hit. (Just like when a goal is scored in a tense soccer game)
These days, people yawn at sixes.
It has reach to a point that I enjoy watching baseball ball more than IPL.
These sixes look meaningless.
What's after this?
T10, F5, and then just a one over matches? What we call those? A super-over match or O1?
They decreased the boundary lines, they choked the charm of bouncers, they gave a free license to kill in the name of free hit, they enforced powerplay and whatnot, all in an effort to create more artificial excitement in the game and generate more revenue. But they didn't realize that you can't scare the public with the same alligator for too long.
To really put the skills to test, I would like the following changes.
1 - Boundary lines MUST BE 85 meters for ANY int'l game for ALL 3 formats. Any ground that does not meet this requirement should be disqualified for international games.
2 - No free hit rule. Front foot no ball and beamers may result in 2 runs penalty.
3 - Bat's weight range should be 2.10 and 2.12. Max edge size 35 mm. Max spine size 55 mm. Toe size max 20 mm. Shoulder max size 15 mm
4 - No restriction on bouncers per over.
5 - No limit on number of overs on a bowler. If a batsman could bat as long as he wants to bat then a bowler should also be allowed to bowl as long as he wants to long.
^^^ THIS will separate boys from men.[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/Smileys/MSNIcons/wink.gif[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/Smileys/MSNIcons/wink.gif[/url])
One of the moderators of this forum brought in an AU made GN Kaboom bat (it was Warner shape). That scared the hell out of me! Even if he gets a few strokes correct and by mistake if someone happens to be in the firing line, they will kiss goodbye to the world! The bowlers, umpires, crowd, the non-striker - all are in grave danger!
Does anyone remember this incident? I think this is what caused Shreeshath lose his mind and he is absolutely correct in blaming Dhoni for his plight ;) ;) -
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ny2r5 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ny2r5)
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I overheard a phonecall today with the lawmakers at the MCC who confirmed there would be a moratorium for amateur cricketers to use their bats that don't conform. The length of the grace period hasn't been decided yet but considering they estimated is would be at least 3 years (from October 2017 when the law is apparently scheduled to change) before the regulations came in at minor counties level, i think club cricketers will be fine for the foreseeable.
Best be using my XP80 next year then....
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One thing I find good about the new regulations is that more and more manufacturers will make bats that will weigh lesser - around 2-7 or 2-8. I have really struggled personally last few years to find bats in this weight range without having to go with toothpick type ultra-thin handles/short blade lengths etc. A thick handle and SH sized bat weighing 2-7 is one I would always love to use personally.
Also, I think they should have regulations for all formats - it doesnt make sense to have it only for tests. Even T20s will be much more exciting when players time the ball rather than brute force...
Lastly, I think the proposal is to restrict edge to 35-40 and spine 60-65. I really hope they keep it to 35/60 rather than 40/65 which is what most current bats already are.
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One thing I find good about the new regulations is that more and more manufacturers will make bats that will weigh lesser - around 2-7 or 2-8. I have really struggled personally last few years to find bats in this weight range without having to go with toothpick type ultra-thin handles/short blade lengths etc. A thick handle and SH sized bat weighing 2-7 is one I would always love to use personally.
Also, I think they should have regulations for all formats - it doesnt make sense to have it only for tests. Even T20s will be much more exciting when players time the ball rather than brute force...
Lastly, I think the proposal is to restrict edge to 35-40 and spine 60-65. I really hope they keep it to 35/60 rather than 40/65 which is what most current bats already are.
We have loads of standard blade length GN bats down to 2'7 and Salix down to 2'5
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We have loads of standard blade length GN bats down to 2'7 and Salix down to 2'5
Hmm, Interesting and thanks for the info... I shall check with you next time I am looking for a new bat. Also I thought all GN and Salix/Newbery come with quite thin handles which keeps the weight down. Would be interesting to know if that is not always the case...any particular Salix model that often comes in the 2-7 or lower weights with a medium or thick handle?
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So Cricket Australia gave Andre Russell, and Chris Gayle special dispensation to use their Black/Gold bats in the Big Bash - despite them clearly contravening MCC Law 6.
"the surface of the blade may be treated with non-solid materials to improve resistance to moisture penetration and/or mask natural blemishes in the appearance of the wood. Save for the purpose of giving a homogeneous appearance by masking natural blemishes, such treatment must not materially alter the colour of the blade."
Does this set a precedent for specific leagues ignoring MCC laws around the bat, and if so - is it feasible that T20 tournaments may not enforce bat limits?
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Looks like they banned Russell's bat now because it was causing discolouration on the white ball
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But in that press release:
"Should Andre, or any other Big Bash or Women's Big Bash player for that matter, wish to use a bat with a different colouring solution that doesn't result in the discolouration of the match ball, they will be permitted to do so."
Any bat colour which isn't wood coloured contravenes the laws, at least as I see it.
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@Tom - I read an article that claimed BBL players were allowed to use bats which were the same colour as their kit, much the same as with pads etc - I'll dig it out for you (still contradicts the MCC ruling as far as I can tell)
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http://wwos.nine.com.au/2016/12/21/07/26/russell-s-black-bat-get-all-clear (http://wwos.nine.com.au/2016/12/21/07/26/russell-s-black-bat-get-all-clear)
To quote;
“A player can use a coloured bat subject to CA approval, and a bat may be same the colour as the club’s primary colour, or black,’’ a CA spokesperson said.
CA retains the right to withdraw approval in its absolute discretion"
“Umpires can also request a player change a bat if they believe it affects the integrity of a match.’’
Sounds very much like it's a CA rule, overruling the MCC rules (sticky situation alert!)
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Does Bat restrictions apply across all formats or just test and first class?
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Will be all formats of professional cricket only I believe
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Would off the shelf big bats still be available after the ban or they will all be gone?
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Would off the shelf big bats still be available after the ban or they will all be gone?
Big brand names won't make 'em anymore due to be in compliance with ICC and hence be able to put their stickers on the bats of star batsmen.
I guess all English Boutique brands won't make 'em either because these guys respect the game and they love to go by the rules.
But yeah you will find some Al-cheapo Indian brands still churning them out and selling them on EBay.
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A good article on Cricinfo today about the historical development of bats. Nothing we haven't heard before, but well written and doesn't mention nonsense about soft pressing even once: http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/1080665.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/1080665.html)
A thought - willow is getting more and more expensive, and we're always being told the best stuff is getting harder and harder to come by. Could we yet see the day where cricket bats go composite, a la hockey sticks? Cricket must be the last major bat/racquet type sport to only allow wooden hitting implements.
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Thanks for the comment - I have left a question on the "Weapon of Mass Destruction" thread that you may be able to help with.
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Cricket must be the last major bat/racquet type sport to only allow wooden hitting implements.
Baseball - MLB Rules state the following; The bat shall be a smooth, round stick not more than 2.61 inches in diameter at the thickest part and not more than 42 inches in length. The bat shall be one piece of solid wood.
other than that though, I don't think there is any more!
From what I've read Mythbusters disproved any improvement in performance when the bat was filled with cork? maybe this would be the same for cricket bats one day - who knows?
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Baseball - MLB Rules state the following; The bat shall be a smooth, round stick not more than 2.61 inches in diameter at the thickest part and not more than 42 inches in length. The bat shall be one piece of solid wood.
other than that though, I don't think there is any more!
From what I've read Mythbusters disproved any improvement in performance when the bat was filled with cork? maybe this would be the same for cricket bats one day - who knows?
Baseball's an odd one - different leagues have different rules on the bats I believe, so the equivalent of a club cricketer can use an aluminium or composite bat. Interestingly some leagues apparently use a standard where if you use a non-wooden bat it has to have a coefficient of restitution below a certain value. Sounds a better way of regulating performance than size restriction!
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Ricky Ponting should have stated this when he was playing.Sounds bad.
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Same goes for golf drivers. Ive got some "H-cor" titleist woods that i think are still allowed on the Japanese Tour but banned in the PGA etc... Personally I don't think regulating the cor of cricket bats would be practical and i wouldnt like to see them made from anything other than willow. I also think the new size regulations are a completely pointless knee-jerk reaction to the visual impact of a "big bat" and the need for the ensuing discussion to have some formal end, more so than any claimed impact on the game itself. I wonder when batsmen are going to start complaining about the ball being too small? ;)
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Chris King's recent view on the coming regs.
Spoiler - He reveals Warners specs at the end!
https://blog.betway.com/cricket/why-size-doesnt-matter-when-it-comes-to-modern-cricket-bats/amp/
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^ warner specs could be without livery.
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Heavier or bigger bat doesn't necessarily translate into big hitting or scores. You have to lift the bat and hit it fairly well consistently.
Shorter boundaries do make hitting sixes easier and mishits clear the ground all the time now.