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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: FattusCattus on August 24, 2016, 06:58:09 PM
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So - imagine we can fast-forward 20 months or so, and a few England stalwarts have hung up their boots, imagine what a team of youngsters we could pick.
Here's my effort:
Gubbins
Bell-Drummond
Duckett
Root *
Bairstow
Stokes
Foakes+
Woakes
Rashid
T Curran
Wood
12th Man - S Curran
That's not a bad team that!!
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Cook* (I can see him going on forever)
Bell-Drummond
Root
Duckett
Bairstow
Stokes
Ansari
Foakes+
Woakes
Ball
Wood
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Ansari seems to have gone backwards this year (certainly doesn't seem to have taken many wickets this year), and Foakes is wasted at 8 - other than that, a fine looking side, my tail-end chum!
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You southern bumbters always forget northern batsman especially the you Lancashire opener
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You southern bumbters always forget northern batsman especially the you Lancashire opener
Don't talk nonsense you silly little man :D
Gubbins
Bell-Drummond
Duckett
Root *
Bairstow
Stokes
Foakes+
Woakes
Rashid
T Curran
Wood
12th Man - S Curran
Plus both Gubbins and Robson are a better prospect than Lyth at the moment I feel.
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I don't see broad retiring in the next 2 years. Assuming Jimmy retires, it is unlikely that England would drop their best/most experienced bowler barring a terrible downturn in form
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Urm the Lancashire 19year old will be going to India this winter.
So
Cook/duckett/DB-D
Hameed
Rooooot
Bairstow
Moeen
Stokes
Foakes
Curren S
Woakes
Broad
Overton
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If we asked a slightly different question - say, a team of players who will be under 30 at the start of the 2018 English season (so the randomness of who retires etc is taken out of it) then the resources look pretty plentiful. The "First XI" is a bit of a top of the head thing, there are lots of either/ors...
Hameed
Lees
Root
Duckett
Bairstow
Burnham
Stokes
Woakes
Rashid
Wood
Jamie Overton
On top of which you have, batting wise:Burns, Westley, Browne, Robson, Gubbins, Bell-Drummond, Northeast, Clarke, Ballance, Hain, Roy, Hales, Vince and Abell.
Foakes, Buttler and Wheater are other options with the gloves.
Crane, Rafiq, Leach are the spinners.
And seamers? Fisher, Willey, Ball, two Currans (though Sam really would need Stokes to be injured), Craig Overton, Archer, Mahmood, Porter...
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Everyone is naming a lot of hitter types, white ball players... Where are the next test quality players coming from??
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Everyone is naming a lot of hitter types, white ball players... Where are the next test quality players coming from??
I think its a shift in the modern game where test specialists are unlikely to come through. I think the game will evolve into moulding one day/t20 players or more likely what aus have done with Warner, bring that type of player to the test game and let him play naturally
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So we've all decided James Vince can't play?
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So we've all decided James Vince can't play?
I personally think he's got a fantastic test future ahead of him, just needs to step away for the winter and work on his technique a little. Lots of promise though IMO.
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Yes totally agree with that,hes got the talent but you need brains also.im sure there are coaches available to help him develop a test match game...ramps seems to be doing well with some of the batsmen we have.
If i was vince is find the toughest possible batting conditions(used to be australia not sure if it still is) and winter there
Got to tighten up against quality bowling...i hope he does.
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I think Sam Billings may feature in some way or another soon too.
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No one has Roy in their main teams with a couple of batting positions up for grabs England may have a look at him for the bangladesh series.two tests and three one day games.
I think Vince will be told to work on his game,ballance will go and be persevered with and Hales...well i would pick hameed of lancs instead right now
But Roy might get a go in the middle order and if so could feature in these 2017/2018 teams.
Hes a far better bet than Hales.
Dont think Engkand will go back to Bell.
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Has anyone actually seen Hameed bat?
I can't help but think there is always a bit of a club cricket mentality evident in these type of threads. You know, that thing where it seems impossible to actually have the same batting order two weeks running?
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Cook will keep going for another five years, especially when he has Sachin's record in his sights, it's a case of who partners him and hoping we have someone who's an established test cricketer by the time cook calls it a day.
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Cook will keep going for another five years, especially when he has Sachin's record in his sights, it's a case of who partners him and hoping we have someone who's an established test cricketer by the time cook calls it a day.
Don't usually see openers last as long as middle order players. IIRC Smith, Sehwag and Strauss where all around 33/34 when their powers waned. Cook's longevity will be determined by this winter and the following winter in Australia.
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Cook relies more on grinding and concentration than natural ability (which he has) like the others so I can see him lasting longer and getting close to Sachin as long as captaincy doesn't weigh him down as I think that will finish him before he is no longer good enough
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My future prediction... Lewis McManus, Hampshire's keeper. Proper keeper - some of his stumpings have been outrageous and he definitely can bat
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My future prediction... Lewis McManus, Hampshire's keeper. Proper keeper - some of his stumpings have been outrageous and he definitely can bat
Some of the keepers Hampshire have produced have been outstanding. If only Michael Bates could bat at the top level he wouldn't have already practically retired in his mid 20s
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Cook relies more on grinding and concentration than natural ability (which he has) like the others so I can see him lasting longer and getting close to Sachin as long as captaincy doesn't weigh him down as I think that will finish him before he is no longer good enough
I agree, although I think cook will step down from the captaincy after next year's ashes.
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I expect to see Dan Lawrence featuring at some point, just seems to have something about him
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I agree, although I think cook will step down from the captaincy after next year's ashes.
If Cook's not captain, I'm not sure he stays under a new captain(Root). Fully expect Cook to be squeezed out like Pietersen...
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I expect to see Dan Lawrence featuring at some point, just seems to have something about him
Not least, amazing wrists.
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If Cook's not captain, I'm not sure he stays under a new captain(Root). Fully expect Cook to be squeezed out like Pietersen...
I will happily wager that the opposite will happen.
Why the hell would the ECB squeeze out the ultimate comapany man?
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I will happily wager that the opposite will happen.
Why the hell would the ECB squeeze out the ultimate comapany man?
It's detrimental for Root's leadership of the side. It was like when Ponting gave up the captaincy but remained in the side. Clarke was afraid to criticize Ponting out of respect
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Two different cricket cultures.
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I expect to see Dan Lawrence featuring at some point, just seems to have something about him
Has as many Div 2 runs as Duckett this season - at at a similar average. Only 19 years old.