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Equipment => Bats => Custom Made => Topic started by: oldfudger on September 04, 2016, 12:34:15 PM

Title: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 04, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
Have pretty much always used M&H Harlequin 2lb 9 / 10

but MH now have most of their bats made in India.

So who would you have make the copy (2 required) and why ?

Looks not important, performance every thing

Also need current Harlequin repaired   
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on September 04, 2016, 12:59:49 PM
I can accommodate the repair and copies. Copies would also come knocked in within the price
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: ElPerro on September 04, 2016, 03:21:25 PM
Just because it's made in India doesn't make it an inferior product, plenty of high quality bats from Indian workshops


Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: petehosk on September 04, 2016, 03:48:07 PM
Just because it's made in India doesn't make it an inferior product, plenty of high quality bats from Indian workshops
You are very correct that you can get some stunning bats made in India.
I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that @oldfudger has the same principals as a number of people on here about M&H?
The fact that they claim to hand make their own bats in their UK workshop and still charge their prices accordingly! Rather than getting them ready made from India and hiking the prices massively!
I certainly wouldn't entertain forking out 5-6 hundred notes for a bat I could get one hell of a lot cheaper from the people who make them!!
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: The Cricket Boutique on September 04, 2016, 03:58:32 PM
Agreed that some Indian made bats are spot on however it's nice to be able to chat to the bat makers directly and have a chat about what you want.
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: ElPerro on September 04, 2016, 08:20:06 PM
You are very correct that you can get some stunning bats made in India.
I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that @oldfudger has the same principals as a number of people on here about M&H?
The fact that they claim to hand make their own bats in their UK workshop and still charge their prices accordingly! Rather than getting them ready made from India and hiking the prices massively!
I certainly wouldn't entertain forking out 5-6 hundred notes for a bat I could get one hell of a lot cheaper from the people who make them!!

Completely agree with your point about taking issue with the principles of M&H and they way they advertise themselves, I too take issue with that, for me it borders on false advertising!

I just read the post as his issue being with the bat made in India as opposed to a bat made in the UK
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Jaffa on September 04, 2016, 08:24:21 PM
Gents, just to inform you my personal experience 'old fudger' was just a waste of time.

I hope for everyone concerned this isn't another one. Good luck. 
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 04, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
Gents, just to inform you my personal experience 'old fudger' was just a waste of time.

I hope for everyone concerned this isn't another one. Good luck.

Unfortunately Jaffa has a problem as i wouldnt pay £80 for his Saf bat offered £70 as it would be a second bat to Harlequin,

Back on topic decided to go down route of having copy made. So who would you have to make such a bat ?

Nothing against Indian bats but the inflated cost at MH
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: avkrish on September 05, 2016, 04:14:14 AM
Agreed that some Indian made bats are spot on however it's nice to be able to chat to the bat makers directly and have a chat about what you want.

Agreed, but there are some bat makers outside of India too who are not always ready to clarify or accept that something has been overlooked if something goes wrong (please note that I am not pointing my finger at any particular bat maker / manufacturer, it is just my experience); it depends on the ethical standards of the bat maker / manufacturer and not nationality.

Don't mistake me, I have very high respect for the bat makers and some of the other sponsors who I had the pleasure to deal with on this Forum
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 05, 2016, 05:55:36 AM
From personal experience of having a bat copied (used nearly all sponsors bats as well) but I have only ever asked one forum member to copy a bat for me and that was Ryan RK bats in the bat makers shed section and it was spot on
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Jaffa on September 05, 2016, 06:49:20 AM
Unfortunately Jaffa has a problem as i wouldnt pay £80 for his Saf bat offered £70 as it would be a second bat to Harlequin,

Back on topic decided to go down route of having copy made. So who would you have to make such a bat ?

Nothing against Indian bats but the inflated cost at MH

Glad you brought this up. You 'kind of' know at the beginning whether someone is really interested in buying yes or no but I thought I'd go along.

After about 20 or so mails'  back and forth asking things like 'where exactly to the cm is the sweet spot' and then not wanting to buy for the sake of a tenner then you know what type of person you're dealing with.

You could argue 'for the sake of a tenner why didn't you sell it'? I'm sure there would have been another excuse not to buy but I guess I'll never know. Maybe that says something about me also.

As for copying a bat; many good suggestions on here. Whereabouts are you based so you can see if there is anyone local to you?
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Churchy1989 on September 05, 2016, 07:49:53 AM
Glad you brought this up. You 'kind of' know at the beginning whether someone is really interested in buying yes or no but I thought I'd go along.

After about 20 or so mails'  back and forth asking things like 'where exactly to the cm is the sweet spot' and then not wanting to buy for the sake of a tenner then you know what type of person you're dealing with.

You could argue 'for the sake of a tenner why didn't you sell it'? I'm sure there would have been another excuse not to buy but I guess I'll never know. Maybe that says something about me also.

As for copying a bat; many good suggestions on here. Whereabouts are you based so you can see if there is anyone local to you?

Can confirm @Jaffa is very pleasant to deal with. Bought2 Norfolks off him.
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: petehosk on September 05, 2016, 08:06:54 AM
Ok fellas - be good to get back to the subject now please  :)
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Percy on September 05, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
Ok fellas - be good to get back to the subject now please  :)

Spoilsport! Just as we were revving up to another forum falling out, I was anticipating at least 3 pages culminating in some good personal insults   :)
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: The Doctor on September 05, 2016, 09:02:25 AM
Ok fellas - be good to get back to the subject now please  :)

I'll throw B3's hat into the ring for replication of a bat, as we all know copying is illegal.
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Jaffa on September 05, 2016, 09:23:36 AM
Spoilsport! Just as we were revving up to another forum falling out, I was anticipating at least 3 pages culminating in some good personal insults   :)

Ha Ha..., keyword warriors at 20 paces.

In saying my bit I'm trying to help. With someone having so many questions I'm suggesting visiting a localish workshop.
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Mpt7 on September 05, 2016, 01:23:36 PM
any of the forum sponsors will do a good job. H4L are always popular
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Churchy1989 on September 05, 2016, 01:28:53 PM
@Vitas Cricket can send it off to Hunts for a copy, see topic:-

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0)
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: tom line on September 05, 2016, 01:43:42 PM
For custom bats and copies I always feel going to see the bat maker is best as some clefts just won't accommodate the profile in that weight etc etc and if they do not have suitable willow at least you are there and are able to then talk through any compromises that you may have to make as well as allowing you to see any potential prices of wood that will be used and you having your choice on what pieces to use
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 05, 2016, 11:35:51 PM
Thanks for all the advice/suggestions

will be sending photos in next couple days of current Harlequin of to see if it can be fixed

then speaking to few bat makers to see which one to use to make a similar/copy of current Harlequin
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: The Doctor on September 06, 2016, 07:23:07 AM
Thanks for all the advice/suggestions

will be sending photos in next couple days of current Harlequin of to see if it can be fixed

then speaking to few bat makers to see which one to use to make a similar/copy of current Harlequin

Drop me an email - david@b3cricket.com, we can also fix your old bat too!!

Streaky
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on September 06, 2016, 06:44:15 PM
If an exact copy is required or wanted no one can match the B3 experience as there technology is 2nd to none
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 07, 2016, 01:36:59 PM
If an exact copy is required or wanted no one can match the B3 experience as there technology is 2nd to none

Thank you
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 08, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
Thanks for all the advice

1st stage of getting bats sorted for pre season sorted, sending current MH Harlequin to B3 to repair.

Have 4/5 companies in mind to make the copy atm, will narrow it down soon
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 22, 2016, 04:44:32 PM
This seasons match bat (MH Harlequin) back from B3,
returned within a wk repaired and MOT'd
great service

looks like new, apart from slight signs of repaired area

proof is in the pudding tho and hopefully it will stand the test of time.

Next to sort out a new one, try a few bats soon so im sure on the profile.

thanks for everyones help todate
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: Canners on September 22, 2016, 05:20:28 PM
Wouldn't getting b3 to copy it while it was there have been an option ?
Title: Re: BAT copy required - who ?
Post by: oldfudger on September 22, 2016, 05:54:44 PM
No not 100% sure on tweeking shape