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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Manormanic on October 31, 2016, 08:40:34 AM
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Who would it be? KP and Bell-end have been mentioned by some, and Hales would surely have been considered but for his stance on Bangladesh. Amongst the bowling options, I've put forward the best English spinner in county cricket last year together with one of everyone's perennial favourites. You might wish to chime in with pro-Monty comments here...
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Bell... I've got my tin hat on but if it's batting coverage we need for Balance....let's be honest there's no point in him staying out there till January he might as well come home.
you can argue all day long he didn't do much last year at County level(correct he didn't) but he has got 20 international tons and you don't get those out of a Xmas cracker
:)
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People choosing KP.... yes that is your choice but get your sensible hat on... that ain't going to happen!
For me, the spin department is sorted! They're the best we have so just use them! Plus, as we all know! Batsmen 9 times out of 10 get themselves out so just bowl to plan and see what happens.
For me I can see Hameed opening and Duckett going to 4. A bloody in experienced top 4.
However a top 4 of
Cook
Duckett
Root
Bell
Would look far more solid!
But in truth, are the selectors going to call up anybody else?! Highly doubtful
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AB De Villiers, or is he still injured?
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Graeme Swann?
Monty panesar?
Ashley Giles?
Anyone classed as English that can turn it a tad with abit of control please.
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Graeme Swann?
Monty panesar?
Ashley Giles?
Anyone classed as English that can turn it a tad with abit of control please.
Chris Schofield?
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Kp bowls a bit of offspin right?
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People choosing KP.... yes that is your choice but get your sensible hat on... that ain't going to happen!
For me, the spin department is sorted! They're the best we have so just use them! Plus, as we all know! Batsmen 9 times out of 10 get themselves out so just bowl to plan and see what happens.
For me I can see Hameed opening and Duckett going to 4. A bloody in experienced top 4.
However a top 4 of
Cook
Duckett
Root
Bell
Would look far more solid!
But in truth, are the selectors going to call up anybody else?! Highly doubtful
It was an option so I picked him as out of them he is the best player and most likely to win matches
if we are choosing out of any current county batsmen I'd have banger (tresco) all day long
but realistically the only choice we have for me is Hameed as what has butler done to get back in the test side?
I think its too much to keep in sub continent and bat top 6 so putting YJB up order to get butler in would be a gamble
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Following the shambolic batting performance against offspin The experience of Bell or kP is needed in this England team
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KP "the best player and most likely to win matches" you say.
How much cricket has he actually played in the past 18 months?
Following the shambolic batting performance against offspin The experience of Bell or kP is needed in this England team
Yeah, drop Chris Woakes to get them in! ;)
Was Bell ever a great player of spin? I suppose he would have looked good getting 20 or 30 when facing spinners, which is more than we can say for Balance...
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KP "the best player and most likely to win matches" you say.
How much cricket has he actually played in the past 18 months?
I've been trying to say this to people for a while but no-one seems to take any notice because KP is god! I'm bored and was intrigued so here it goes.
11 FC matches since the start of 2015
0 List A since 2013
48 t20 matches since BBL 14/15
And of course 0 international games since 2014
I know people want people picked on form, granted he scored a few runs in those games, but how can you seriously want to pick someone who has played 11 games more than 20 overs in the last 2 years to play 5 tests in India??
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Buttler ;)
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I've been trying to say this to people for a while but no-one seems to take any notice because KP is god! I'm bored and was intrigued so here it goes.
11 FC matches since the start of 2015
0 List A since 2013
48 t20 matches since BBL 14/15
And of course 0 international games since 2014
I know people want people picked on form, granted he scored a few runs in those games, but how can you seriously want to pick someone who has played 11 games more than 20 overs in the last 2 years to play 5 tests in India??
Take your point but can Bell or KP bat any worse than what we have witnessed in Bangladesh
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Am I wrong in thinking the squad has already been confirmed as the same that toured Bangladesh? Thought that got announced last week?
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Good thread, my assumption from the opening post is that they have to be available for selection and not retired.
Yes the squad is picked, but there may be a change regardless.
On the basis (as Reds and Scott say) KP will not/should not be selected, although I have excessive faith if anyone could do it, he could. I have no idea who I would suggest.
We need a hard as nails number 4 bat and a left arm spinner who can bowl a consistent length and give it a rip.
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Guys - surely it's up to anyone individually who they want to pick.
This topic is about picking someone who is not in the squad (e.g. not Buttler, as Buttler is already in the squad for India I believe and may get a game?)
Myself I would go for Bell to play in top 4 - so Cook, Duckett, Root, Bell.
Then the normal Bairstow, Stoke, Ali in 5-7.
Then 8-11 could be bowlers & Woakes (all-rounder)
But on some Indian wickets I am sure that we could actually get away with playing less spin than we did in Bangladesh and maybe fit Hameed into the mid order?
Cook
Duckett
Root
Bell
Hameed
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Ansari
Broad
Remember Root could take a overs if Koli gets going and sticks around!!
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We need a hard as nails number 4 bat and a left arm spinner who can bowl a consistent length and give it a rip.
Two birds, one oversized stone - enter big Samit! Not exactly what we're looking for, but actually did quite a decent job with bat and ball in the UAE last year.
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Two birds, one oversized stone - enter big Samit! Not exactly what we're looking for, but actually did quite a decent job with bat and ball in the UAE last year.
Hey if they want a slightly overweight cricketer who can bowl some serviceable, if not exactly threatening, spin whilst knowing which end of a bat to hold then surely this forum is the place to start, I get to be first in the queue seeing as it was my idea :D
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I think it is fair to say Batty is selected for this winter only. If you can do this with a bower why not with a batsman? Could Bell have been picked on a one-off basis? What is his record in India like anyway?
I keep reading that in India you need to be able to defend before anything else. Buttler can certainly smash it on those pitches but can he block 15 balls first? Can Duckett for that matter?
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Scott borthwick should have been at 3 and Root 4. Personally...
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Gary Ballance.
Still waiting for the real one to show up.
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I think it is fair to say Batty is selected for this winter only. If you can do this with a bower why not with a batsman? Could Bell have been picked on a one-off basis? What is his record in India like anyway?
I keep reading that in India you need to be able to defend before anything else. Buttler can certainly smash it on those pitches but can he block 15 balls first? Can Duckett for that matter?
Some say attack is the best form of defence....
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Buttler hasn't got a bad temperament. He is learning when to go after the bowling and when to defend.
He often is on 10 runs from 20 balls. Then scores 40 runs off the next 10 balls!! ;)
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Can we call up Bresnan to bat at four? He can turn his arm over if needed allowing us to play four spinners as well.
Cook
Duckett
Root
Bresnan
Ali
Stokes
Bairstow
Woakes
Rashid
Ansari
Batty
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Throwing a curveball and going with Sonic, reckon he could cope with spin.
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KP - best England bat I the last 20odd years, proven match winner and solid No4. Won't happen in a million years but certainly should be. Batty has been picked as no one elsa deemed good enough and cupboard bare. The No4 slot is the same so KP should be added to the squad on the same basis.
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As much as I love Pietersen, does he even play cricket anymore? His various social media accounts make him out to be a safari guide...
Bell shouldn't even be considered as a drinks boy. His record is woeful in India
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As much as I love Pietersen, does he even play cricket anymore? His various social media accounts make him out to be a safari guide...
Bell shouldn't even be considered as a drinks boy. His record is woeful in India
That a bit harsh on Bell. He was one of the best juice mixers on the tours. His juice to water ratio was second to none. One of the best drinks boy you can have #gatorade #h2o
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Bell! (But I'm a Warwickshire lad, and I've spent time with him)...
How about Roy?
Samit really isn't a bad shout, if he's fit enough.
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if he's fit enough.
Genuinely read this as "If he's FAT enough"
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Genuinely read this as "If he's FAT enough"
Which accurately represents the issue therein :D
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That's very telling! The fact that nearly everyone on the forum holds the same opinion about Hales!
In my book he is a quality ODI player but (how can I put this diplomatically) there are better options for Test matches!
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Hales might be worth a shot down the order, don't think he's got enough ticker to open in Test matches.
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Hales might get a spot in England's middle order but I think he will get overtaken by others so therefore left with one day cricket-and he's a shoe in for that.
Jos Butler will get picked before him I reckon
Duckett i'd bet my house(don't have one) will be 4 or 5 for us going forward, with Hameed opening.
Quite how quickly that MIGHT happen is anyones guess.
I still don't believe we have taken Hameed on tour for 3 months without intending to play him in a Test....
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Kevin Pietersen, for sure
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Kevin Pietersen