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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Felix Tito on December 20, 2016, 01:47:25 PM
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ECB claims that Leach wasn't selected as replacement for Ansari because his action isn't clean...so they only find this out after a whole season of bowling :o covering ones backside of you ask me
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Probably covering their backsides but it doesn't explain why he want picked originally.
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ECB claims that Leach wasn't selected as replacement for Ansari because his action isn't clean...so they only find this out after a whole season of bowling :o covering ones backside of you ask me
I suspect there's been a lot of scrutiny and they're heading off some form of press exposée...
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the arm is bent but is it over 15 degrees?
http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/12123/10703073/england-had-concerns-over-bowler-jack-leachs-action (http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/12123/10703073/england-had-concerns-over-bowler-jack-leachs-action)
will be interesting to see how he goes now his action has had 'a change' at loughborough, where they supposedly spotted it.
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I'd much rather them spot it now than get grooved into test cricket then be suspended, and not be able to re-form his action quick enough.
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its interesting that we are doing this for Leach and someone like Johan Botha has been chucking around the t20 circuit for years
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They could have easily stuck him in and then let the ICC tear his action to pieces. that would have been good for the England spin cupboard :-D
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Yeah any kink in the action can be worked on away from the test arena.
Looks like a good call.we are going to need to develop spin to improve the team abroad
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I dont really understand why this had to come out like this especially now, ECB continue to leak stuff to the press and end up looking stupid
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I dont really understand why this had to come out like this especially now, ECB continue to leak stuff to the press and end up looking stupid
All the bowlers had been selected so he still didn't have 'a chance' in the public eye. Now they are just explaining their reason, timing doesn't matter.
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he worked on his action at the end of the summer before touring with the lions.
he used the new action against Afghanistan and UAE.
dont understand why they didnt say something earlier about it.
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https://youtu.be/7QMcBw7VrqQ
https://youtu.be/iDPFP-RCdaE
Make your own mind up.
I think it was good the ecb were protecting him, but his action looks fine in these videos
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https://youtu.be/7QMcBw7VrqQ
https://youtu.be/iDPFP-RCdaE
Make your own mind up.
I think it was good the ecb were protecting him, but his action looks fine in these videos
Can you really tell from behind though?
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From behind it looks OK to me. would need to see some other angles for a better idea
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Unfortunately another case of bowlers progressing through the ranks, nearly all the way to the top with a bent arm.
Down here it seems to be case where because calling someone a chucker is possibly the worst thing you could do so none does.
Umpires here are not allow to call arm no balls, any suspect actions require a fair bit of discussion/paperwork trouble with club officials/captains/umpires. Ends up being too much effort.
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Pause it on 1.19 and it's pretty bent arm, but as has been said, no one wants to question it, as nothing gets done.
It's chucking
Flower it up, change the rules/laws whatever, it's still a throw
The bowler is cheating, and he's been picked up for it, if you can't turn a ball without throwing it, get off the pitch and go and try baseball or something.
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@Northern monkey can't find Leach bowling at 1:15 in any of the videos?
I've just been through a couple of deliveries and Leach looks absolutely fine to me. Van De Merwe though...
(https://s24.postimg.org/wkfadyoed/merwe.png)
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1.19 first of buzzes vids
And I've seen a lot worse actions
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Good to see Leach come out with a reaction about not being selected. Good on him!
http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/1073584.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/1073584.html)
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Pause it on 1.19 and it's pretty bent arm, but as has been said, no one wants to question it, as nothing gets done.
It's chucking
Flower it up, change the rules/laws whatever, it's still a throw
The bowler is cheating, and he's been picked up for it, if you can't turn a ball without throwing it, get off the pitch and go and try baseball or something.
Looks straight as a die to me
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/IMG_0228_zps750jz4ey.png) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/IMG_0228_zps750jz4ey.png.html)
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Fact is it wasnt and even he was shocked. Goes to show sometimes you just dont know
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I paused it a c#ck hair before that, and it was bent, looking at that it's fine, I suppose that's why it's not been reported earlier?
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I paused it a c#ck hair before that, and it was bent, looking at that it's fine, I suppose that's why it's not been reported earlier?
You mean this frame?
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/IMG_0229_zpsajgaurjq.png) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/IMG_0229_zpsajgaurjq.png.html)
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Looks straight as a die to me
Yeah that's the point it has a bend then straightens,
would be ok if he bowls with the kink all the way through until ball release.
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Apparently leach's results showed he had a 30 degree Flex, that's nearly double the allowance!
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That's the spot number4
Shows how it's basically a throw ,
Played against two this year bowling a lot worse than that , and it's amazing how hard it is to pick the ball up out of the hand.
And one of the lads,(who's nicknamed chucker by his teammates !) has a letter from lords saying his Bowlings legal?
I have pictures that show his arm at nearly 45 degrees on release, but our league doesn't care
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That's the spot number4
Shows how it's basically a throw ,
Played against two this year bowling a lot worse than that , and it's amazing how hard it is to pick the ball up out of the hand.
And one of the lads,(who's nicknamed chucker by his teammates !) has a letter from lords saying his Bowlings legal?
I have pictures that show his arm at nearly 45 degrees on release, but our league doesn't care
we have a couple in our league that it is so obvious it is ridiculous - but at club level it will never get called - our umpire (who is a neutral panel umpire as well) threatened to call a couple of the guys and now they just don't bowl from his end when they play with him umpiring.
one of the guys is a LAO spinner like Leach and just runs and basically throws it as if you would do playing changing room cricket :( :(
the league just don't want to get embroiled in a massive row etc.....
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Yeah the spinner in our league, sorta got worse as he went on!
After a few overs, his quicker one, was him stopping in his run up and just throwing it!
The umpires haven't got a clue