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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: 50 not out on January 23, 2010, 07:04:16 PM
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Hampshire's Michael Lumb has agreed a surprise deal to play in the Indian Premier League with the Rajasthan Royals.
is this a joke! pease explain!
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why would it be a joke?
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south africans are free for the whole of the ipl ... ;)
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in my opinion he us not good enough FACT
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what does your opinion count??
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Lumb was excellent in 2009 for Hampshire - hhe showed class and determination and scored some awesome knocks!
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think pete hit the nail on the head. earnt his spot i reckon.....
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Well - lets face it, if he was that bad, the IPL wouldn't have been interested!!
Its not a surprise that someone wants him! The biggest surprise is that the likes of Alfridi has been overlooked!
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yh true, wouldv'e thought Afridi and Gul wouldv'e definately got a spot with there performances in world t20. perhaps a little bit of the india-pakistand rivalry had the indians flexing there muscles by not picking them. shame though. looking at the squads who you think will win it this year?
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Remember Lumb hitting 120 odd in a 20/20 against Essex last season think that may have helped his cause!
I know Pete no Pakistan players were picked! Politics??
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Looked very good last season when i watched him he seemed always to get runs and looked nice on the eye.
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Yeh - I thought he would be pushing for a place in England.
And it was certainly politics! Pakistan have got 3 or 4 very high class players. And they must have had their noses put out of joint!
It would be the same if Wales, Scotland or France ran the IPL - there would be no English players!!!
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Yeah i think both Carberry and Lumb are easy on the eye and are similar players to Eoin Morgan who has also been signed up by Rajistan Royals. all 3 are england players of the future i think
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Definately CD, be interesting to see what opportunity they get but be a hell of an experience and it can't do English cricket any harm being exposed to that quality of cricketer. I can't wait to see Damien Martyn play again, one of favourite players of all time so id like to thank Warney for making a ridiculous buy just to help a mate out.
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Yeah i think both Carberry and Lumb are easy on the eye and are similar players to Eoin Morgan who has also been signed up by Rajistan Royals. all 3 are england players of the future i think
Carberry for the future? He is 29 years old
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nice one ashvir
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nice one ashvir
Thanks. He probably wouldnt be around for the next ashes in England.
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well carberry will play in bangladesh and thats the future..... if he made his debut next summer and played till he was 34 id take that......you never know he may just not be good anough.
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He scored runs in t20 for fun last year! Got a 90 odd on sky as well, perhaps the warne factor at Hampshire swayed rajastan?
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Nice on Ashvir??
So you had a major problem with Lumb? And now you have a problem with Carberry?
So you've obviously got a major problem yourself pal! What is it?
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29 years old is not old!! How old was Michael Hussey when he started test cricket 30/31 years old? Mark my words carberry is next in line for a chance in the England Squad! He nearly got his chance in SA when Colly was a doubt!
And 50 not out i would suggest you shut your mouth if you wanna hide behind someone else's comments and dont start a topic when its pretty clear you nothing at all about cricket and whats makes a good cricketer! So i suggest you do us all a favour and go and play somewhere else!!
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hahaha, handbags at ten paces......
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Yeah i reckon Warney was a factor he obviously saw something he liked when he was at Hamps. . .
Yeah sorry got a bit carried away there! haha!
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sorry custom dan if i affended you it was just my opinion
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No need to apologise but if your gonna make an arguement/opinion/view, you should at least be able to back it up! I wasn't offended mate no worries . . .I just got a bit carried away!! haha
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Its great having an opinion. But all we are wondering is what is your opinion based on??
It cant be based on last seasons performance as both Carberry AND Lumb impressed and had excelllent averages and on great form in 2009.
So what is your whole argument based on?
When you start an argument, the whole point is that there needs to be something supporting your point of view -- so we are curious what is your side of the argument?
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I hate pointless posts that aren't based on anything! If you have a negative have something to back it up like stats etc.
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my side of the argument is that Idont think he Is good enough for ipl cricket! fair enough county level when he can score racks of runs but internatinal is another step up. e.g trott he has had a great start to his test carreer but in my opinion if he has a average series in bangladesh i think he will be put under the cosh for carbeery to coem in.
trott didnt have a great seires in south africa and you cant say he returned home etc whcih affected him it wasnt! kp when he went bak there for the first time he had an excellent series.
my argument is that i think he will be a trot a 1 hit wonder who might have a good start to his career then fade away a little bit.
I DONT MEAN TO AFFEND ANYONE NOW SO JUST THROUGH IT BACK IT ME IF YOU DISAGREE ETC
CHEERS
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ipl cricket is not a fantastic or even international standard of cricket. it is better than county certainly but so far its an overblown domestic tournament in my opinion. just have a look at the number of retired internationals make the starting line-up. some of the ipl i watched last year was crap to be honest...... thats my opinion and i await the backlash!!!!
you could say trott will fade away after a good start to his career.... uh-um remind you of KP. despite the fact he had a fantastic start to both test and odi cricket you can't deny his star has faded a lot. there is a stat which says something like he got 3 hundreds in his first 7 odis and 4 in the remainding 70odd.
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I have to agree I think the IPL is more a spectacle and a showcase of talent rather than a higher standard of the domestic format in england, SA, Aus etc. No doubt that are some amazing talents on show but it is also a breeding ground for lesser known Indian players to establish themselves.
I think there is considerably less skill involved in 20/20 than any other format of the game but its one hell of a show!!
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cuatom dan is that an ok explanation to my opinion reagrding him!
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I dont know . . .who are you talking about now Lumb, Carberry, Trott, KP . . . .
In any case i think its a bit premature to write off Trott! He's only had one full series and one test against Aus. Trott looks a quality player to me! As for KP i dont have an opinion . . .
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do you think he is overated as a player kp ii really do . look at all the quality number 4 players hussey or clarke samanawerra etc i think he is a tad overrated in my liking!
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Samamerweera is a 6! Not a 4. Trott isnt 3 for me, if anything stick Pietersen there to give him some responsibility! Trott/Colly at 4 or 5.
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Trott does look quality and seems to perform when the pressure is on and when its important to perform.
The only thing he was guilty of was playing lose shot in the last game really. Apart from that he has had a good start.
And KP has been having a tough time getting back to form after his injury and op. Time will tell whether or not he'll get back to his top form or not!
Bangladesh looked pretty good at times against the strong battng of the Indian team. The worrying thing for England is if we go over to Bangladesh with a weakkened team and Bangladesh gave India some tough times - then we could be in for some very worrying times!! But its a good time for the likes of KP to try to find some form again.
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No dont think he is over rated at all, he can be a little gun-ho, but its obvious he can turn/win a game all by himself. I think the business with losing the captaincy has knocked his famous swagger and confidence and that has affected his game. But i think he will bounce back like all world class players do.
Would stick with trott at 3, kp 4, colly 5
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and another 1 i would like to talk about is foster!
why does he not have a test match cap ? i really do think he should be playing tbh instead of prior
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and another 1 i would like to talk about is foster!
why does he not have a test match cap ? i really do think he should be playing tbh instead of prior
why? and whats prior done wrong?
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Foster is not the best batsman too be hinest. He has his moments, but he is nowhere near the class of Prior with the bat!
Where Foster excels is with the gloves. He is one of the best keepers in the world, bar none!!! But his batting is average.
Prior is nowhere near as goood with the gloves but his batting is very good - over 40 average at international level is class by anyones standards.
And Priors glovework has improved over the last year. Foster certainly would make a great international keeper at ODI level - just not sure if he's up to the task at test level?
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Foster is not the best batsman too be hinest. He has his moments, but he is nowhere near the class of Prior with the bat!
Where Foster excels is with the gloves. He is one of the best keepers in the world, bar none!!! But his batting is average.
Prior is nowhere near as goood with the gloves but his batting is very good - over 40 average at international level is class by anyones standards.
And Priors glovework has improved over the last year. Foster certainly would make a great international keeper at ODI level - just not sure if he's up to the task at test level?
i think the difference between prior and fostrers keeping i shrinking all the time
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Don't see the fuss being made about pakistani players not being purchased for IPL3. I mean it's openly known that India and pakistan's relations died when the Mumbai attacks occurs. It wouldn't be correct to welcome players from a country that India has no relations with/or isn't going to have relations with in the near future.
Warne requested Lumb be signed, and Warne doesn't usually back poor players. He did the same last year, when he requested Kamran Khan be signed. He was a total unknown in India. He was pretty successful, before he got injured.
If the IPL's of cricket was so low, why would all the world best players want to play in the tournament? Warne openly said that playing in the IPL was only below playing Test cricket. The playing standard of the IPl is much better than the T20 cup in England, that's for sure. The main aim of the IPL was to develop young Indian cricketers against the premier players in the world. It's not just a meal ticket for the International players. Also if the International players don't play(if in the squad at the time, not unavailable due to injury or International commitments) then they only received 25-50% for their purchase price.
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I rate Foster as 1 of the best keepers inb the World. If his batting was close to Priors then would be keeping for Engand.
Priors keeping has improved amazingly over the last year or two! But he has had to!! He has the likes of Steve Davies and a certain classy South African born keeper/batsman to compete against very soon :-) so he needed to improve his keeping!
But Prior has got the gloves as he is a very good batsman and his keeping is much improved.
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I rate Foster as 1 of the best keepers inb the World. If his batting was close to Priors then would be keeping for Engand.
Priors keeping has improved amazingly over the last year or two! But he has had to!! He has the likes of Steve Davies and a certain classy South African born keeper/batsman to compete against very soon :-) so he needed to improve his keeping!
But Prior has got the gloves as he is a very good batsman and his keeping is much improved.
i think he is our best all round keeper... i cant remember his last drop tbh
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Don't see the fuss being made about pakistani players not being purchased for IPL3. I mean it's openly known that India and pakistan's relations died when the Mumbai attacks occurs. It wouldn't be correct to welcome players from a country that India has no relations with/or isn't going to have relations with in the near future.
Warne requested Lumb be signed, and Warne doesn't usually back poor players. He did the same last year, when he requested Kamran Khan be signed. He was a total unknown in India. He was pretty successful, before he got injured.
If the IPL's of cricket was so low, why would all the world best players want to play in the tournament? Warne openly said that playing in the IPL was only below playing Test cricket. The playing standard of the IPl is much better than the T20 cup in England, that's for sure. The main aim of the IPL was to develop young Indian cricketers against the premier players in the world. It's not just a meal ticket for the International players. Also if the International players don't play(if in the squad at the time, not unavailable due to injury or International commitments) then they only received 25-50% for their purchase price.
All the best players want to go there because, regardless what they say they fancy the money!!! Imagine the pressure the older players get from there family to get that easy few quid at the back end of there career and th younger players can't believe there luck. How can the IPL ever be compared in standard to test cricket when there is potentially 410 overs difference. It is better than t20 tournament in England but it is not international standard and it can't because not every side has 11 international standard cricketers. Warne probably said the to keep the powers that be happy!!!
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in my opinion he us not good enough FACT
that makes no sense what so ever you retard
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Haha true James, just because he doesnt like him he suddenly isnt good enough to play county cricket never mind IPL!
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He has the likes of Steve Davies and a certain classy South African born keeper/batsman to compete against very soon :-) so he needed to improve his keeping!
foster does have test caps.
i really hope the england selectors try out all options before keiswetter. it would be really hard to support an england kolpak team.
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As much as i would love to see Foster as England keeper, i cant see it happening unless his batting improves. He is with no doubt the best gloveman in England, or possibly world cricket, but his batting is just not consistent enough. Prior has improved his glovework tremendously and his batting is just as good, so he shouldnt be going anywhere just yet. Seems like Davies is next in line to take the gloves if Prior goes through a rough patch though...
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From what i have seen in Domestic OD cricket, Davies or Kieswetter would be good picks for ODI cricket.
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its funny how the collingwood witch hunt has gone quiet now hes made a few runs! im sure critisisms of kp and trott will blow over in much the same way as soon as they get going again. form is temporary and all that. we have to remember that kp has just come back from injury to face a very good bowling attack with millions of south africans piling the pressure on him, no wonder he didnt make many runs... i wouldnt have picked him for the saf tour in the first place for those reasons and gave him more time to recover
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sorry i disagree. i dnt think kisseweeter is nowhere near ready! i seen it whilst watchin the airtel champions league i know it was just 20/20 but he was walked over and bowlers noticed his weaknesses and bowled to them and the were succesfull. !