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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: ogroupleader on March 30, 2017, 06:41:04 AM
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XP80 2000 2lb 8
Legend Gold 2lb 11.6 - 45mm edge
Legend 2lb 11.6 - 46mm edge
50 Plus 2lb 12.3 - 49mm edge
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That Legend Gold is very nice!!
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Huge bats for the weights, shows the skill of the batmaker.
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Absolutely stunning !!
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I cannot find XP80 2.9 or under anywhere, sucks for me
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I'm with you Ummers!! That XP80 shape is just about the most exciting thing on the forum for me (even more exciting than shower gel experiments).
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Not sure where you get these beauties from but whoever is selling them must be crazy! :)
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Interesting stickers on the 50plus , the gn checkers are grey , all the 50plus i have seen came with brown checkers ??? Beautifull blades man cave must haves
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Not sure where you get these beauties from but whoever is selling them must be crazy! :)
A complete nutjob.
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Interesting stickers on the 50plus , the gn checkers are grey , all the 50plus i have seen came with brown checkers ??? Beautifull blades man cave must haves
The 50+ only went back to them for downsizing last week. They no longer have 50+ stickers left so they used Legend stickers.
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I'm with you Ummers!! That XP80 shape is just about the most exciting thing on the forum for me (even more exciting than shower gel experiments).
It's ridculously good. But the Legend is a lot better.
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50plus Downsizing ??? Assume weight reduction , love mine , that gold is a serious piece of stu perfection
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Not sure where you get these beauties from but whoever is selling them must be crazy! :)
FYI talking about your new Warner Players next season the rep said he spoke to SK and there will be no difference in performance even with the smaller edges.
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50plus Downsizing ??? Assume weight reduction , love mine , that gold is a serious piece of stu perfection
It went from 2.14.5 ish down to 2.12.3. Edges went fron 52mm to 49. No difference in fullness of the back.
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The gold legend looks like liquid gold.
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I can tell you the new warner is an awesome bat , lighter & beautifully balanced , mine is 2lb 12oz , 51mm.
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I can tell you the new warner is an awesome bat , lighter & beautifully balanced , mine is 2lb 12oz , 51mm.
So with reduced edges and size the weight should Considerably go down, guess I'll just wait for that as my next bat
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The gold deserves a thread of its own please.
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I can tell you the new warner is an awesome bat , lighter & beautifully balanced , mine is 2lb 12oz , 51mm.
2017 range 51mm edge?
Isn't it supposed to be within new regulations of 40mm?
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Lovely lovely lovely lovely
What is all down the edge of the xp80?
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Legend gold very rare GN has more orders than they can make all 50plus stock gone get it now or never
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Lovely lovely lovely lovely
What is all down the edge of the xp80?
Tungsten tape
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Legend gold looks gold to me. Correct me if I am wrong, is it the standard shape or it is custom?
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That legend looks properly nice
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2017 range 51mm edge?
Isn't it supposed to be within new regulations of 40mm?
I have the same question
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Tungsten tape
Had to google it as had no idea
Is that to change the weight?
And is it legal on the playing area of the bat?
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Legend gold looks gold to me. Correct me if I am wrong, is it the standard shape or it is custom?
Pretty sure its off the shelf. But this came from Wickets-then-runs so he can answer that.
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Had to google it as had no idea
Is that to change the weight?
And is it legal on the playing area of the bat?
100% illegal. At 2.8 its just too light for me so had only been used in 4 innings. I am playing around with the tape to see if i can get it up to a usable weight. The added benefit of adding weight to the edges is an increase in sweetspot size.
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100% illegal. At 2.8 its just too light for me so had only been used in 4 innings. I am playing around with the tape to see if i can get it up to a usable weight. The added benefit of adding weight to the edges is an increase in sweetspot size.
Very interesting :o
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@ogroupleader Let me know if you can't get along with that XP, I would be interested in it.
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@ogroupleader Let me know if you can't get along with that XP, I would be interested in it.
700au plus postage.
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700au plus postage.
If your're not getting along with it and it gets a bit closer to $500 let me know.
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That XP is an absolute monster and the others not far behind
Fair play OP. You have an amazing collection there
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I would love to know where you heard that ;)
Physics 101. Pretty sure they teach it in kindergarten now.
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If your're not getting along with it and it gets a bit closer to $500 let me know.
I feel like i need to justify the $700 price tag. Alrighty then.
1 . It's a unicorn. 2.8 and 10 perfect straight grains
2. Aftermarket customization. The tungsten on there will set you back $60 if you were to buy it in-store. Add to that the expertise required to fit it. I get paid $90 an hour for every hour or part thereof to perform the same customization work on tennis racquets.
3. Shoe goo on the toe. Not sure that such a quantum improvement can even have a monetary value assigned to it.
I could go on but i think it's becoming abundantly clear that $700 is the buy of the decade.
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I feel like i need to justify the $700 price tag. Alrighty then.
1 . It's a unicorn. 2.8 and 10 perfect straight grains
2. Aftermarket customization. The tungsten on there will set you back $60 if you were to buy it in-store. Add to that the expertise required to fit it. I get paid $90 an hour for every hour or part thereof to perform the same customization work on tennis racquets.
3. Shoe goo on the toe. Not sure that such a quantum improvement can even have a monetary value assigned to it.
I could go on but i think it's becoming abundantly clear that $700 is the buy of the decade.
If your're not getting along with it and it gets a bit closer to $500 let me know.
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Rather than be a smart (No Swearing Please) how about educating us plebs
Tungsten tape in tennis is used much like a counter balance handle in cricket... to change the balance. By changing the balance you help an individual find the sweetspot where there are variations between individuals in how they like a bat/ racket to feel how they play different shots etc.
Adding mass to the edge will also change the MOI about the handle axis to change the feel of the bat twisting on off centre shots and change the feel but that again has nothing to do with sweetspot size
Neither is increasing the size of the sweetspot but it is always good to be educated if you have stumbled across something
I get paid to talk about this stuff. Seriously.
Lets start with 3 questions.
1. In relation to the impact between bat and ball and the energy involved in that collision what is the goal of the bat maker/designer?
2. What be the effect of using a theoretical cricket bat which had infinite torsional stability.
3. What was the theory behind the original scoop design?
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Rather than be a smart (No Swearing Please) how about educating us plebs
Tungsten tape in tennis is used much like a counter balance handle in cricket... to change the balance. By changing the balance you help an individual find the sweetspot where there are variations between individuals in how they like a bat/ racket to feel how they play different shots etc.
Adding mass to the edge will also change the MOI about the handle axis to change the feel of the bat twisting on off centre shots and change the feel but that again has nothing to do with sweetspot size
Neither is increasing the size of the sweetspot but it is always good to be educated if you have stumbled across something
While the goal of counterbalancing is the manipulation of the balance point that is most often not the goal when we are customizing rkts.
Rkt customization is concerned primarily with manipulating swingweight. The balance point may or may not change with a change in swingweight. The addit I n of weight affects weight balance and swingweight. Depending on the amount of weight to be added, the rkts stsrting specs and the goal specs it is often not possible to match all 3. In this case swingweight and weight take priority over balance.
Also while we are talking about counterbalancing im going to call shenanigans on it.
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If your're not getting along with it and it gets a bit closer to $500 let me know.
..i feel like im not doing a very good job selling it. Do you need me to talk about the expertly fitted extratec sheet? ......
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Same question as before, how does any of that increase the sweetspot size which is what you claim.
I can see what your are aiming for but it has nothing to do with sweetspot size. By your logic it is a bit like saying a thick oval handle increases sweetspot size
Weighted tape on the edge is daft but if you feel you get a benefit then its done its job
I think most people will also see claiming this edge tape adds $60+$90/hr to the value of a bat for what is but theres a bit OT
First things first. The 60 plus 90 is tongue in cheek. Read the rest of that post for the context.
Lets forget about the 3 questions to start with and concentrate on the first question.
1. In relation to the impact between bat and ball and the energy involved in that collision what is the goal of the batmaker?
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I think most people will also see claiming this edge tape adds $60+$90/hr to the value of a bat for what is but theres a bit OT
It's more misleading as the tape is fitted under the bumper strip so the main components of the service is the restring, not the tape fitting
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It's more misleading as the tape is fitted under the bumper strip so the main components of the service is the restring, not the tape fitting
Can you expand on that?
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700au plus postage.
You will never get 700au for it.
Let's call it a deal at 550au plus postage :)
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Same question as before, how does any of that increase the sweetspot size which is what you claim.
I can see what your are aiming for but it has nothing to do with sweetspot size. By your logic it is a bit like saying a thick oval handle increases sweetspot size or a heavier bat of the same profile has a larger sweetspot.
I think most people will also see claiming this edge tape adds $60+$90/hr to the value of a bat for what is but theres a bit OT
The logic i have suggested does not allow one to conclude that a thicker handle increaeses sweetspot size.
A heavier bat doesnt have a larger sweetspot?
Are you sure about that?
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Hmmm... I agree that the change in swing weight will affect the performance of the bat itself. That's mostly down to user preference though, F=ma means that if he swings a 2.11 bat as quickly as a 2.8, then there will be an increase in performance. As to increasing the sweetspot size, most likely, again, to do with the swing weight etc.
If you're going merely by tapping a ball up and testing the 'ping', then I don't think the tungsten tape really makes a difference, but then again, I've never tried anything like this out.
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@ogroupleader , out of interest, why didn't you apply the tape on the back of the bat? Is it too rigid to be shaped?
Cracking collection btw, love the Legends. That XP80 is something very special at that weight too, did you request a 2.8, or was it an off the shelf blind purchase that happened to be 2.8?
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Wowzers! theres some good looking bats!
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Legend gold looks stunning!
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..i feel like im not doing a very good job selling it. Do you need me to talk about the expertly fitted extratec sheet? ......
Ha Ha I get the feeling you lack the need to sell it as much as lack the I need to buy it. I had to put a $500 cap on whim purchases.
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Hmmm... I agree that the change in swing weight will affect the performance of the bat itself. That's mostly down to user preference though, F=ma means that if he swings a 2.11 bat as quickly as a 2.8, then there will be an increase in performance. As to increasing the sweetspot size, most likely, again, to do with the swing weight etc.
If you're going merely by tapping a ball up and testing the 'ping', then I don't think the tungsten tape really makes a difference, but then again, I've never tried anything like this out.
Haven't tried it yet. The goal of the tape is increased weight. Any effect on the sweetspot is a side effect and not the end game. With only 1 ounce added there is not going to be a noticable effect on stability/sweetspot size. Thats less than 2.5% of the bat's total weight located on the edges. I wouldnt expect to notice a difference until another few ounces are added at least.
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@ogroupleader , out of interest, why didn't you apply the tape on the back of the bat? Is it too rigid to be shaped?
Cracking collection btw, love the Legends. That XP80 is something very special at that weight too, did you request a 2.8, or was it an off the shelf blind purchase that happened to be 2.8?
Its soft pliable and rubberized. It is on the edges so that in the event i liked the weight could cover it up with fibreglass tape and use it in a match.
It was a blind purchase. Sent direct from gray nic.