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Title: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: csnew on May 05, 2017, 11:56:52 AM
Ireland 109-8 - bit of a waste of time this one. Ireland appear to be getting worse year by year.

Not the practice england would have wanted
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: rickjames on May 05, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
To be fair I think 3 ODIs against South Africa is more than e ough practice.

Joe Root and his lovely golden arm
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: LcWoodward on May 05, 2017, 12:02:53 PM
Was just thinking the same about them going downhill & they want to play test cricket.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Churchy1989 on May 05, 2017, 12:04:09 PM
I'm going on Sunday, hoping for a better score from Ireland than that!
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 05, 2017, 12:05:32 PM
might be wrong but think they are about to get test status, or at least closer than they have ever been

not watching but tracking it on BBC text

good to see Mark Wood back-it really is. Time will tell if his injuries hold up for the whole summer. Could be a weapon for the ICC tournament.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: LcWoodward on May 05, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
Fingers crossed he stays fit and can play a big part, Hopefully call time on England turning back to Steve Finn
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on May 05, 2017, 12:18:51 PM
Got here and they were 8 down, half a game and a lot of dissapointed fans who were prob planning on coming after work.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 05, 2017, 12:21:39 PM
all out 5fer for Rashid..

I see the Ireland captain saying Eoin would be welcomed back to play test cricket for Ireland...mixed feelings about this myself, they are about to get test status, Morgan will not play tests for England.....

hmmmmmm......Morgan is very Irish, it's his Country/ It would be odd for our one day captain to play test cricket for another Country.

perhaps a discussion for another day  :)

I think myself Ireland were stronger 5 years ago-some of the same playing now as back then
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Alvaro on May 05, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I think that's a discussion for another day.

It seems wishful thinking at best from Porterfield to bat first....
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: rickjames on May 05, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
Morgan was asked the other day and said it wouldn't happen
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 05, 2017, 12:57:19 PM
hales is giving it a crack.

we are a good one day side now, I have high hopes for the tournament when it starts.  :)
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: wasted_talent on May 05, 2017, 12:59:57 PM
As the home nation and given the current side England have, they will be favourites, right? what are the bookies saying?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Australian fast bowler on May 05, 2017, 01:13:44 PM
At 2/80 i thought Ireland were looking pretty good,
Rashid bowled well, looked like they had zero plan or idea to pick him
Amazing no one can pick him with a white ball, stick a red ball in his hand and he is fodder
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ScottParko on May 05, 2017, 01:16:41 PM
As the home nation and given the current side England have, they will be favourites, right? what are the bookies saying?

Yup England are the favourites. Betting is fairly close though between us Australia and South Africa.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: jimmy23 on May 05, 2017, 01:17:01 PM
What bat is Hales using?
Stickers aren't the normal Halestorm
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: wasted_talent on May 05, 2017, 01:19:35 PM
Yup England are the favourites. Betting is fairly close though between us Australia and South Africa.

South Africa always go in amongst the favourites and always let their fans down. Don't see any reason for this to change this time?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: GoodLeave on May 05, 2017, 01:53:36 PM
Right. What have we learnt?

A team we thought was good convincingly beat a team we knew was bad.

Still, at least it was a nice day for it?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: csnew on May 05, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
Feel sorry for the paying public, robbed of a decent game of cricket. Not the greatest advert for cricket - Bristol don't get many games of cricket
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 05, 2017, 02:03:30 PM
dont think we have learnt much to be honest. good to see bairstow get a game, Wood hopefully has no reaction and carries on(that's a massive plus)

Hales got us off to a good start as he has done in the past.

apart from that....dunno. The crowd only got half a game
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: edge on May 05, 2017, 02:05:01 PM
Bit disappointing that, heart sunk when we got to the ground to find Ireland chose to bat!
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 05, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
ah you were there Dr Edge

was Wood taking it easy or at full tilt?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Manormanic on May 05, 2017, 02:21:46 PM
At 2/80 i thought Ireland were looking pretty good,
Rashid bowled well, looked like they had zero plan or idea to pick him
Amazing no one can pick him with a white ball, stick a red ball in his hand and he is fodder

I think there is a big difference between formats - in Test cricket, batsmen can pat away 2-3 good voers knowing that sooner or later some absolute dross will come along.  In the shorter forms, they have to go looking for 7 an over and errors creep in - even the absolute dross balls have potential to take wickets because batsmen try and put too much pace on to muscle them for sixes and end up caught in the deep. 
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 05, 2017, 09:34:52 PM
hales is giving it a crack.

we are a good one day side now, I have high hopes for the tournament when it starts.  :)
Whet about the two dollys he gave ?

Proper teams would gobble them up
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on May 05, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
ah you were there Dr Edge

was Wood taking it easy or at full tilt?

He looked pretty quick when he came on to try And mop up the tail. Top edge flew for a one bouce 4!
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: edge on May 05, 2017, 10:34:58 PM
ah you were there Dr Edge

was Wood taking it easy or at full tilt?
Looked fairly easy in first spell tbh, Joyce played him well too. Second spell when he banged a few in looked a bit tasty. Edit - Tom beat me to it! Was quite impressed with Chase for Ireland, looked a bit of a prospect!
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: liscon12 on May 06, 2017, 12:10:48 AM
What bat is Hales using?
Stickers aren't the normal Halestorm
I noticed that as well, looked more like the Aussie stickers, also had a dark grip on it as well.

Any high res shots?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: liscon12 on May 06, 2017, 12:16:39 AM
Found these on Getty

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/679368288 (http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/679368288)
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/679259502 (http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/679259502)
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Ridenmarke on May 06, 2017, 02:21:34 AM
Looks like the new Aussie market Predator stickers
https://gray-nicolls.com.au/products/predator3-senior-english-willow-bat
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: jimmy23 on May 06, 2017, 08:24:20 AM
Looks like the new Aussie market Predator stickers
https://gray-nicolls.com.au/products/predator3-senior-english-willow-bat

Odd one that to say they launched a £400+ bat a couple of months ago with his name on.
He just uses whatever he is sent I suppose
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: rickjames on May 06, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
Fun fact: Joe Root now has best bowling figures of 2/9 across all formats. If you don't believe he's the greatest off spinner of all time, you are fake news.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 07, 2017, 06:13:36 PM
What bat is Hales using?
Stickers aren't the normal Halestorm

From the highlights today, when Hales got out I'm almost 90% certain the sticker on the top of the handle was the same as the one on Chalkie's Aussie made XP80
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 07, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
Mark Wood showed today why he should be in the test team
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Manormanic on May 07, 2017, 07:52:40 PM
Instead of Woakes, perchance?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on May 07, 2017, 08:25:50 PM
Just annoyed that Ireland didnt opt to do the same here in Bristol so we got to see a game rather than half of one.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Chalkie on May 07, 2017, 08:31:24 PM
From the highlights today, when Hales got out I'm almost 90% certain the sticker on the top of the handle was the same as the one on Chalkie's Aussie made XP80


You mean this one?

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o744/alasdairwhite/IMG_1616_zpsktw7xyae.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/alasdairwhite/media/IMG_1616_zpsktw7xyae.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: springbok45 on May 07, 2017, 08:51:21 PM
Looks like the new Aussie market Predator stickers
https://gray-nicolls.com.au/products/predator3-senior-english-willow-bat

He started using them while in Melbourne playing grade cricket over the winter, there are videos of some of the games on youtube
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 07, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
He started using them while in Melbourne playing grade cricket over the winter, there are videos of some of the games on youtube

Was that when he got bounced out by students?
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 08, 2017, 08:28:53 AM
Instead of Woakes, perchance?

Woakes  will be first choice good team man and all that but needs to be looking over his shoulder also
Woods a decent lower order bat.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 08, 2017, 08:34:02 AM
sterling showed yesterday(how good is this bloke?) pace onto the bat on good tracks can up the scoring rate

but if your thinking Wood could clean out the tail or lower order batsmen although pretty much everyone bats these days yes totally agree.

its great to see him back and bowling quick. I suspect England will want him at the death as well as a few upfront
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Rob580 on May 08, 2017, 09:50:50 AM
Given how Root has bowled, and with Stokes returning from the IPL, is there anyone else out there that thinks we could play Bairstow as a specialist 7 (in the same way the Aussies used to with Mike Hussey) and have Stokes and Root as the 5th & 6th Bowler?

Probably leaving out Ali would be the obvious choice? Bairstow is just in irresistible form at the moment.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 08, 2017, 10:07:56 AM
Yes...hard as it is to fit 11 in I would do exactly that and let Root bowl a bit-he can do the same or better job than Ali

only thing is Butler really has got to play-he is so destructive

so.....Bairstow in for Ali. I suppose Billings has to make way for Jos....which is a shame because he can change a game

but we are talking about the very very best players to win the tournament

Bairstow is just superb,one day or Test match he is one of the best batters in the Country

IMHO  :)
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: ppccopener on May 08, 2017, 10:24:08 AM
and also if I can count no place for Chris Woakes......as in Wood plays in his place
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Sam on May 08, 2017, 10:38:47 AM
and also if I can count no place for Chris Woakes......as in Wood plays in his place

Think we're looking at Woakes, Wood, Stokes and Plunkett/Willey as the 4 pacers.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 08, 2017, 10:39:57 AM
Baistow should play he's  constantly consistent in all forms
Billing not so.
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Seniorplayer on May 08, 2017, 10:44:01 AM
sterling showed yesterday(how good is this bloke?) pace onto the bat on good tracks can up the scoring rate

but if your thinking Wood could clean out the tail or lower order batsmen although pretty much everyone bats these days yes totally agree.

its great to see him back and bowling quick. I suspect England will want him at the death as well as a few upfront

That's my thinking wood  bowling fast Yorkers
Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: petehosk on May 08, 2017, 10:59:52 AM
Got to surely be.......
Roy
Hales
Root
Morgan
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Rashid/Ali
Woakes
Plunkett
Wood

Then you have Ali or Rashid as reserve spinner (whichever doesn't make the final XI)
Also Ball and Willey as two very decent pace bowlers. Plus Billings who failed to put himself in the running yesterday, but who should prove himself in the future!

Title: Re: Ireland Vs. England
Post by: Rob580 on May 08, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
Have to agree with Pete on the personnel front, I'd leave the top 6 as they are at the mo and have Bairstow at 7 personally, but either way, it's the best top 7 we've had for donkeys years in the one day stuff.

I have a sneaking suspicion they'll pick Willey ahead of Plunkett, just for the variation of him being left arm (and 75mph....)